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Level 49 : Master Necromancer
Posted 06/08/12 5:56:02 am
06/08/12

Photoshop has caused a large debate recently on builds that have photoshopped images. Some people are completely against it, and the ones who do use Photoshop are retaliating. Now, I’m going to be honest with you guys. I am completely against it. I’m tired of seeing builds that have overly photoshopped images on the popular reel. I’ll be discussing the negative things about photoshopped images and what you, as a graphic designer or whatever you are, can do to still use Photoshop and make your builds look good. I’m normally an open minded person, but I will only be talking about my opinion on it, and not an outsiders view. One more thing, I’m not writing this because I’m jealous of them or anything like that. I’ll admit, I’m pretty good at using Photoshop myself, but I don’t brag about it by using it to overcomplicate my builds.

I’ve seen a few builds out there that are overly photoshopped with an external image and colors thrown everywhere. The external images and other things (occasionally text) hide the build. The builds are literally thrown into an external image found on Google and then get filters and text added. I know exactly how these people do it, but I wouldn’t do it myself. Most of the time, it makes the images look too busy, or maybe even ugly. For example, one day I saw a build on the reel. I normally look at the image first, then the title. When I looked at the picture I thought it was a blog. But then when I saw that it was a project, I still didn’t believe it. I literally could not see a build in that photo. (No, I’m not blind or anything, my eyesight is perfectly fine) The build was blending in with the external image that was used for the background. So, then I clicked on it and actually saw the build in the other pictures that were posted. This just goes to show that Photoshop shouldn’t be overly used, because trust me, that image was pretty ugly. So, why do people do that to their builds anyways? Sure, it might get you more views, but who cares?

That brings me to my next topic I’d like to address. All this Photoshop is taking the simplicity out of Minecraft! Isn’t Minecraft supposed to be that crappy block game with terrible graphics? Not fancy photoshopped images… Who else remembers the good old days when people just posted their projects without using any program to edit the image? Those days were great. I could actually tell what the build was. Not some… Blob of colors, external images and fancy text. I made an example especially for you guys (instead of using that time to study and do homework) because I love you. Well, not really, I made this cause images always help validate a point.

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I built a little cottage quickly just for an example. I used Photoshop on images 2 and 3. Image 1 is just the original.

I’ll start with image 3. Now, to be completely honest with you, this photo was so fun to make. It took more than an hour to make, because I was messing around with brushes, filters, contrast, colors and such. I would never do this for a build. EVER. I mainly tried doing what the other photoshoppers do, over Photoshop it. Compare it to image 1, looks terrible doesn’t it? It’s over saturated, the colors are off and it’s too warm. Plus, the text covers it, hiding the build. Well, it was already hidden in the filters and adjustments… But you get the point. Over photoshopped = ugly.

Now take a look at image 2. This is what I’d do for a build. In fact, I’ve done it before. Check out my Venetia build, or my Lunar Solaria build. I’ve just added text and a little bit of brush. The text doesn’t overlap the build and the colors are similar to the colors in the picture. I did use the same text for images 2 and 3, but the text was fine. It just shouldn’t overlap your build. I prefer image 2 over image 3 because it’s simple and you can still tell that it was made in Minecraft.

“But Jg, we already know it’s made in Minecraft if it’s posted on PMC!” Well, you are completely right. Of course it’s made in MC if it’s on PMC. But what if you saw image 3 on a different site, maybe just Google images? It would take me a while to figure out that it was made in Minecraft. But if I saw image 2, I’d automatically know because:

-There is no external image used.

-The colors, contrast, etc. aren’t over done.

-The build isn’t hidden behind text.

-It doesn’t look ugly. (Hah, jk. But image 3 does look ugly)

Minecraft is supposed to be simple and obvious. You don’t have to take a minute to figure out that something was made in Minecraft, you should know automatically. Photoshop, Y U TAKE ALL OF THE SIMPLICITY AWAY?!

Most people can’t even afford Photoshop anyways. And not everyone who owns it can use it because they either aren’t skilled enough or just don’t have time for it. I’ve had Photoshop for a while an only learned how to use it last year. I had to teach myself without any books or internet tutorials. I sat down and just messed around with the different tools and such. It took about three months for me to fully understand everything in that program. Planet Minecraft is full of little kids, and image how long it’d take them do learn Photoshop? Even if they could afford it, they wouldn’t be able to use it. It’s just… not even possible! Stop telling people to buy Photoshop and stop complaining… Because the people complaining can’t even buy/use it! Don’t even suggest GIMP, it’s terrible. And it might still be a little too complicated for kids.

Now, I mainly think people use Photoshop on their build images just to show off their Photoshop skills. Seriously, no one really cares how great you are at photoshopping images. We want to see your building skills! Not Photoshop skills. Now, believe me. Some people aren’t bad at Photoshop. I actually believe that they are better than me! And that’s ok. I’m not jealous or anything because I don’t care to have amazing Photoshop skills. I like being able to know how to use it, just not use it well. But some people just go over the top and practically brag about their skills. Ok, we get it. You can add external images and mess around with filters and brushes. But no need to show us it on your builds. Show off your Minecraft skills! We want to see your amazing buildings, not some photo edited with a program. Some people say they use Photoshop to emphasize their build and get more views; they say that companies use Photoshop and programs similar to it to promote their company. Yeah, that’s right. They do. But why not use your building skills instead of Photoshop to promote your build?

So, how should you use Photoshop for your build? Well, I’m going to share a few tips with you. First of all, do nottouch anything in the ‘Adjustments’ tab found under ‘Image’. If you mess with any of that it will give your build and un-Minecraft feel. I also suggest not adding any filters of any sort. Even adding blur makes your photo look bad. Maybe you could get away with adding a lens flare… But I still suggest not adding anything in the filters tab. Now, what you do want to add is text. Now, go crazy with the text. Change the font; make it any size you want (as long as it’s big enough to read). And if you want it to look fancy, go into blending options and add a drop shadow or something. Make it look pretty. Just consider the positioning of the text. You want it in a corner or not overlapping your build. For the brush, pick something related to your build with similar colors. In my example I used the leaf brush with greens and browns to represent willow trees. I also changed the opacity so it’s subtle and not over the top. I’d also position the brush in a corner, away from the build. Mainly because you want your build to be the dominant image. If you follow these tips you could make nice images of your build that aren’t over photoshopped, but still look nice.

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So, yeh. Photoshop can be good for most things, but not particularly on builds. Mainly because it hides the build and make the image look ugly. Plus some people can’t afford it or even use it. Some people just use Photoshop to emphasize their build, but they go way over the top most of the time. You can still use Photoshop on your images and still make it look good if you don’t overdo it. Just follow my tips. And if you don’t have Photoshop download GIMP. It’s free, but not as great. So everyone, just remember this: Photoshop is amazing, but only used sensibly and not overdone. 

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Rockstargman14
Level 4
Apprentice Artist
March 25, 2013, 9:20 am

Can someone explain where all of these noobs are getting photoshop its a seven hundred dollar program. the only reason i have it is because my moms a photographer 

SquishyZaUltra
Level 38
Artisan Turtle
July 7, 2012, 6:32 pm

I use Photoshop to make minecraft screenshots into romantic/pretty/beautiful/amazing/cool/epic art. (Whatever the art is.) What I mean is that I haven't used photoshop to make a texture pack look awesomer than it is. (yes, I know 'awesomer' isn't a word. XD ) I don't use it to deceive people into downloading a lame texture pack.

-Squishy <3

P.S. Deserves a diamond! Love the speech you made!

Ayashe99
Level 22
Expert Pixel Painter
June 24, 2012, 5:28 am

I use photoshop for texture packs only.

andyroo62
Level 12
Journeyman Narwhal
July 6, 2012, 6:19 am

Probably the worst thing to use Photoshop on

Ayashe99
Level 22
Expert Pixel Painter
July 8, 2012, 10:51 am

I just learned more about photoshop, so not only texture packs anymore ^^

The_Forougite
Level 20
Expert Herobrine
June 12, 2012, 10:50 pm

http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/monthly-planet-minecraft-blogs-w-aqua/
this kid made his own dumbed down version hahahahahahaha

Hnybnny
Level 34
Artisan Dragon
June 9, 2012, 7:45 am

My cat has better photoshop skills than i do.

Shadowraix
Level 7
Apprentice Taco
June 9, 2012, 4:29 am

Wait, in your post you say "Don’t even suggest GIMP, it’s terrible. And it might still be a little too complicated for kids" Then at the bottom you say "And if you don’t have Photoshop download GIMP. It’s free, but not as great." You basically suggest using GIMP if they don't have Photoshop.. GIMP is not terrible. It's just more complicated than it should be and if you know how to use it it is quite useful. Another thing is image 3 looks good to me not ugly. I mean sure the text is in the way but besides that i like it. I don't mind photoshopped images as long as in the images they actually include just original images that does show he actual structures as they are in the project. You could think of photoshopped images as a cover for the project. If the images are all photoshopped like image 3 then i wouldn't like that. That's what i think anyways.

Tatrinpaha
Level 30
Artisan Dragonborn
July 1, 2012, 10:09 pm

Photoshop is much more complicated than GIMP by default. You've been Photoshop more often, therefore it's harder to use GIMP. But I find GIMP easier to use than Photoshop.


But i completely agree with you about the images.

Charri10
Level 2
Apprentice Artist
June 9, 2012, 3:46 am

I dont use photoshop but what i do yo get a good shot is
 Smooth lighting ON, Optifine, a HD texture pack, Graphics:fancy and maybe GL shaders mod 
i always find that this is a good combo for a good shot without going into any of the programs


anyway, good blog ! DIAMOND !

Exurbia
Forum Moderator
Level 49
Master Necromancer
June 9, 2012, 3:49 am

Hah, so true! 
And thanks :3

superch00b
Level 25
Expert Artist
June 12, 2012, 11:21 pm

I usually just use the default texture pack because that's what I'm used to...
Agreeing with jgsampso, yes, why would you even bother making it look all "fancy with photoshop. You will just get less credit for your project... 


It looks like you put a lot of effort into this blog/rant, ill give you a diamond k? ^.^

Exurbia
Forum Moderator
Level 49
Master Necromancer
June 12, 2012, 11:29 pm

Thanks ;3

superch00b
Level 25
Expert Artist
June 12, 2012, 11:36 pm

:P

Chainsaw99
Level 33
Artisan Taco
June 9, 2012, 3:00 am

I truly agree with every single paragraph you have made because nowadays, the only builds i see are bull**** or just so much Photoshopped that i cannot see what was done in the build... Oh, i miss those days (9/8 months ago), where the word Photoshop would only cease to exist :(

BTW, you know the 9gag text for 'bad luck Brian'? What is it called? I may be doing a blog on how to install mods for newbs with ZERO knowledge on why their mods aren't working as planned and I will be including two downloadable(s) with it.

Exurbia
Forum Moderator
Level 49
Master Necromancer
June 9, 2012, 3:06 am

Haha, thanks.
And no, sorry. I don't know the font. :c

Chainsaw99
Level 33
Artisan Taco
June 9, 2012, 3:22 am

damn it :c , if i had the font, my two downloadable files would be complete :c

Fun Fact:
One fact most people don't know about installing mods: They never ever make a folder that supports all the mods that should be installed. I always put my mods that require installing via opening the jar file by making a folder named: Jar folder. Then i would put in my mods in there. If there is a file that would overlap, i would usually say replace IF the mod is a core mod (aka Modloader) with another core mod that would work (aka ModloaderMP)

Jyles
Level 72
Legendary Baconator
June 9, 2012, 12:26 am

If people take the extra time, and effort to make there banners look good, (which makes pmc look good) I say grats, good work ,and you probably deserve a little bit more publicity then those who just go, mhmm okay take a pic, upload it. done. now lets go to some other site. 

TeabaggingFrog
Level 47
Master Pixel Painter
June 8, 2012, 8:39 pm

It's like a woman. There's a fine line between make-up and war paint.

Theminemaster
Chat Moderator
Level 15
Journeyman Dolphin
June 9, 2012, 12:53 am

XD

Exurbia
Forum Moderator
Level 49
Master Necromancer
June 8, 2012, 8:42 pm

Hahaha, true that!

Skotcher
Level 9
Apprentice Taco
June 8, 2012, 4:32 pm

I am on both sides of the fence.

Photo-shop can be a great way to show your pride in a build. Adding filters and using adjustments CAN make a photo look good. It is also very ee pleasing.

But it can also make your build look nore realistic and not show what your build actually is. So I'm not sure.

Best to have a fair balance I guess.

WarMachine87
Level 7
Apprentice Ranger
June 8, 2012, 3:26 pm

I was ready to make a rant on this kind of thing. But you showed a lot more information I was probably gonna put.

Pykes
Level 41
Master Technomancer
June 8, 2012, 1:56 pm

I understand where you're coming from. It's not fair when someone uses photoshop to make a crummy build look epic, tricking people into giving them views and diamonds when without the photoshopping people wouldn't have given it the time of day, and it's pathetic to see excessive filters and effects making a piece of garbage look like a glowy piece of garbage.


Honestly though I only read the first couple paragraphs.
tldr

Exurbia
Forum Moderator
Level 49
Master Necromancer
June 8, 2012, 1:59 pm

Ohh, joo suu lazyyy~

Pykes
Level 41
Master Technomancer
June 8, 2012, 2:10 pm

Tell me something I don't know, lol!

Greytopher
Chat Moderator
Level 50
Grandmaster Sailor
June 8, 2012, 12:08 pm

I would halfly agree with what your saying, but there are a lot of cases of it just to prove advertisment. They just do it cause they want to be on the popular reel (of course) but I do see when it goes WAAYYY over the top, and when you look at the rest of the pics, it's utter poop.

danianrobbo
Level 28
Expert Blockhead
June 8, 2012, 12:00 pm

i don't get what your point is and you seem a bit sad. actualy anyone who does a rant about pointless things is sad. also why call it a rant why not a pointless argument or how i wish life was/minecraft was/planet minecraft was.  we don't realy care it does not affect us.  and my opinon on photoshoping there pictures is good it is a talent as long as you can see your/there work it is ok and for texturepacks title covers not showing the texture(unless going inside the link) is ok.

Skotcher
Level 9
Apprentice Taco
June 8, 2012, 4:27 pm

I don't get the point of your comment. Why don't you just call this a pointless comment? Your life seems pretty sad. This is more of a sad useless comment.

danianrobbo
Level 28
Expert Blockhead
June 11, 2012, 10:17 am

the comment in your point is sad but that does not make me sad and i am just getting my point across you don't understand

AAmdahl
Site Moderator
Level 52
Grandmaster Architect
June 8, 2012, 10:59 am

I look at it as putting effort into your post

Antiqua
Level 59
Grandmaster Elf
June 8, 2012, 12:27 pm

Stop making so much sense.

lynchyinc
Site Moderator
Level 71
Legendary Architect
June 8, 2012, 12:02 pm

^ this as well

Lokibo127
Level 24
Expert Blockhead
June 8, 2012, 11:22 am

^ this.

pigonge
Level 60
High Grandmaster Bunny
June 8, 2012, 7:39 am

I personally think the photoshopped coverpage is also a part of the whole project although I only add some title on the image.

Baron_Von_Random
Level 25
Expert Blacksmith
June 8, 2012, 7:08 am

Lol the text is covering the picture :P WHat photoshop do you use?

Exurbia
Forum Moderator
Level 49
Master Necromancer
June 8, 2012, 1:38 pm

CS3. Yeah, I know it's old, but my dad bought it a while ago and he used it for his photography. He stopped doing photography and just never got the new versions on Photoshop. So, that is why I'm stuck with CS3. But he's going to buy me CS6 soon :3

Baron_Von_Random
Level 25
Expert Blacksmith
June 8, 2012, 4:24 pm

How much is it?

Exurbia
Forum Moderator
Level 49
Master Necromancer
June 8, 2012, 4:46 pm

I don't know. xD

Bleyd
Level 19
Journeyman Pirate
June 8, 2012, 5:52 am

Finally some words of wisdom. I'm sick of all these shameless attention whores with fake, deceptive thumbnails trying to justify it with "but iz gud 4 advurtizing!!1"

Hoovy
Level 25
Expert Engineer
June 8, 2012, 5:36 am

That little part where you said "Of course it was made in minecraft since it was uploaded to pmc!" Not every post on pmc is minecraft. and that is quite annoying too.

Animatrix
Site Moderator
Level 8
Apprentice Goblin
June 8, 2012, 5:28 am

Eh, I'm on both sides. Over-photoshopping looks dayum ugly, but when it's done well, it can portray the amount of pride you have for your build into an artistic banner. In the end, though, I don't really care if people use it or not, and those that moan on either side should just be quiet and let the rest of us get on with our various projects.

Antiqua
Level 59
Grandmaster Elf
June 8, 2012, 10:59 am

Exactly this.

Sir_Beret
Level 57
Grandmaster Terraformer
June 8, 2012, 11:39 am

hurr

Antiqua
Level 59
Grandmaster Elf
June 8, 2012, 12:27 pm

durr.

kenniks
Level 36
Artisan Architect
June 8, 2012, 6:14 am

Agreed.

breezter
Level 39
Artisan Blob
June 8, 2012, 5:08 am

I understand what your getting at. I agree.

carloooo
Level 50
Grandmaster Architect
June 8, 2012, 5:01 am

Okay ):

RedJohnxS
Level 46
Master Necromancer
June 8, 2012, 2:45 am

I think it's actually a good idea, to photoshop the screenshots of a project you made.... i mean it makes it look nice (to some point) and it looks more professional...
i am though against people that can't really build, but still get popular just because they know how to handle photoshop...

i think we should just judge the Project for what they are.... and not for how they're presented...

Exurbia
Forum Moderator
Level 49
Master Necromancer
June 8, 2012, 2:47 am

Yeah, I should have talked about the people who get popular because they use Photoshop, but can't build. It's highly annoying, to be honest.

ZIWIKMOFO
Level 27
Expert Pixel Puncher
June 8, 2012, 2:42 am

Katie, I agree with all the others sorry :(, But its ok in small portions where it fits, other wise people over use it to make things stand out and they kinda abuse it...

Exurbia
Forum Moderator
Level 49
Master Necromancer
June 8, 2012, 2:44 am

Eh, everyone has different opinions. c:

ZIWIKMOFO
Level 27
Expert Pixel Puncher
June 8, 2012, 2:44 am

Yea,

SpacePotato
Level 31
Artisan Droid
June 8, 2012, 2:40 am

tl;dr A lot of Photoshop=Bad. A moderate amount=Good.

DrThresh
Site Moderator
Level 35
Artisan Architect
June 8, 2012, 2:24 am

While I don't necessarily hate the liberal use of it, when something is overdone it disguises what it was originally advertising in the first place. 

Exurbia
Forum Moderator
Level 49
Master Necromancer
June 8, 2012, 2:33 am

Mmmm, yeah. 

DrThresh
Site Moderator
Level 35
Artisan Architect
June 8, 2012, 1:52 pm

To be honest, you can go as far as you want with photoshopping the image, however one needs to take note that it's still showing what it should look like. If one starts changing colours, well, since they're so good at changing colours in Photoshop, they may as well make a texture pack so as not to be lumped in with the fakers. Not to mention the use of a mod that alters the renderer to make it trippy and squished lol

or realistic trees...

or godrays/sunlight mods...

^_^

Rouge
Level 33
Artisan Geek
June 8, 2012, 2:15 am

I use photoshop for my projects. All I do is a vignette, the title, and color correction, so it is still easy to see the project. I think it's okay, just in moderation.

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