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Rageman's Rage of the Week-Stupid things hitting the popular reel

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Level 34 : Artisan Vampire
Posted 06/02/12 4:32:17 am
06/02/12
I've noticed recently that there seems to have been a rather large influx on stupid things hitting the pop reel. Really stupid things. This seems to affect 3 main areas of the site; Projects, Texture packs, and skins. A quick example for each of these categories that seem to come up a lot:

Project: "Mah epic dirt house LOL"- 20 Diamonds
Pretty cool house or castle or whatever else - 3 Diamonds

OK, that house or castle may not be the coolest build world, but its a darn sight better than a 3x3 house constructed out of dirt. I thought Planet Minecraft was about rewarding creativity, not stupidity? Anyway, now texture packs.

Texture Pack: "My really cool 1x1 TP" - 30 diamonds
A cool TP with a decent amount of time invested into it - 10 diamonds

Same applies here as with the projects really, it may not be the nicest looking TP, but at least it has more than 1 pixel in it

Blogs: "7 facts you didn't know about Minecraft" - 100 diamonds (Yes, I'm almost certain this actually happened)
Story that took an hour to write - 3 diamonds

Everybody knows those 7 facts, everybody. I'm pretty sure even people who don't play Minecraft know about them. Occasionally these blogs turn up with genuinely bizarre information, but only once in a blue moon.

Now stupid submissions may not always pop up in the form that I have described here, but they are always around in one form or another. The people who made them or favourited them may defend them by saying "Oh, its only a joke". Yeah, for them maybe, but I bet you it's not for the guy who spent several days on his texture pack. or whatever else. Then again, If I knew that I could put minimal effort into something and get more popular than people who genuinely work hard, I think I would. The only thing that stops me is that I'm a decent person, I have self respect, and that I'm not a total popularity W***e.

You want to make PMC a better place? Start by rewarding genuinely creative people instead of fools.

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C_Miner_NL
Level 40
Master Blockhead
September 11, 2012, 8:30 am

Can I ask you something?


Are My little blockhead one of the stupid things?

JDMracer95
Level 17
Journeyman Robot
August 30, 2012, 9:17 am

Hey rageman, What if there was a rule where you couldn't diamond unless you were level 2 or above. This would get rid of a lot of annoying unfair diamond stuff.

devilbat
Level 6
Apprentice Explorer
March 11, 2013, 8:51 am

No, that would mean that the people who just entered the site wouldn't be able to like anything, that would be stupid

Rhys
Level 1
New Miner
July 25, 2012, 11:18 pm

If I could give you more diamonds, I would :D

Nyaruko Yasaka
Level 47
Master Blockhead
July 4, 2012, 11:10 pm

It's been a long week, rageman, a long month :c 

pigonge
Level 60
High Grandmaster Bunny
June 4, 2012, 2:50 am

You have to recognize it is not your opinion that is deciding what to be on the popular reel.


Also, amount of effort put in does not matter. As long as it looks nice enough to attract people's attention, it deserve to be popular reel and apparently that is what popular means. 

rageman96
Site Moderator
Level 34
Artisan Vampire
June 4, 2012, 2:56 am

I know that it is not my opinionthat decides the popular reel, I never stated it was. And yes, things that do look good will get on the pop reel. However, like uniblue, you are missing the point. If something looks good then most likely effort has been put in. But this blog is aimed at the ridiculous submissions. Can you honestly tell me that a 3x3 dirt house looks good?

pigonge
Level 60
High Grandmaster Bunny
June 4, 2012, 3:05 am

It is nice to see that you do understand your opinion is not what takes to decide the reel. Now you should also recognize that you don't get to call projects "stupid projects", "ridiculous submissions" and etc.

For your 3x3 dirt house, unless you are able to show me what project you are talking about, I can't answer that question.

rageman96
Site Moderator
Level 34
Artisan Vampire
June 4, 2012, 3:11 am

The project has been removed I do believe, although there are plenty out there, you just have to look. And as to your statement about me not being allowed to call projects ridiculous, why not? Surely I have the right to an opinion, same as anyone else?

pigonge
Level 60
High Grandmaster Bunny
June 4, 2012, 3:19 am

No. Only if you make projects that are worth of applauds, you get the right.
Then would you actually get some examples then. Everything you pull out to support your statements are just "I believe", "I think". There hasn't been a specific example that I can look at.

rageman96
Site Moderator
Level 34
Artisan Vampire
June 4, 2012, 5:06 am

Well, firstly, how can I bring up a project that doesn't exist anymore? Also, this isn't just about projects, its about blogs and texture packs to. And as for your argument as to me not having a right to an opinion because I haven't had a project on the pop reel. Well Im not even going to address that, but I suggest you brush up on your basic human rights.

pigonge
Level 60
High Grandmaster Bunny
June 4, 2012, 5:24 am

"
Texture Pack: "My really cool 1x1 TP" - 30 diamonds
A cool TP with a decent amount of time invested into it - 10 diamonds

Same applies here as with the projects really, it may not be the nicest looking TP, but at least it has more than 1 pixel in it

Blogs: "7 facts you didn't know about Minecraft" - 100 diamonds (Yes, I'm almost certain this actually happened)
Story that took an hour to write - 3 diamonds"


Please show me the link to those.

I am quite sure most of your blogs were rants about crappy project. You titled them as weekly rage. In that sense, you do not have right to call something rubbish as you do not release something, well lets just say something.

Speaking of your human right point, I believe you are speaking about article 18 and 19 of UDHR. Apparently, those are just counsels. Those do not have absolute right. And in the same article, it clearly states, "Everyone has the right to freedom of thought" 
So you see, I have the right to deny the human right because everyone has the right to freedom of thought.

rageman96
Site Moderator
Level 34
Artisan Vampire
June 4, 2012, 5:41 am

When I can get access to my PC ill find you the links to those although it was purely hypothetical, based on what I've seen come up before. As to "All of my blogs being about crappy projects", you may want to look at my blogs before accusing me of that, I'm pretty sure this is one of the first, if not the first blog on the topic. And as for the human rights, everybody has a right to an opinion, you can't deny someones opinion, because everybody has them. I can't tell someone they can't have an opinion in one way or another. And as for me not having released projects, fair call there, I haven't released loads, but surely as someone who makes a lot of projects yourself, you'd be annoyed if one of your projects got thrown off the popular reel or even didnt get their at all because of a project like a dirt hut, especially if you'd invested time and effort into it.

pigonge
Level 60
High Grandmaster Bunny
June 4, 2012, 6:00 am

Apparently I did not say 
 "All of my blogs being about crappy projects" 
I said Most of your blogs were rants about crappy projects"


http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/rages-rage-of-the-week-poor-skinning/

http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/rages-rage-of-the-week-useless-forum-topics/

http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/rages-hyper-rage-of-the-week-the-new-state-of-pmc/



Those are some examples.


Just like you have right to have opinion, I have right to deny someone's opinion as long as I don't force people to follow my opinion because that is my opinion too and I also share the right to have opinion.
It is not like I have tried to take down your whole post or anything but just to show my opinion regarding to the subject, "stupid thing hitting popular reel" .


I would not get annoyed if my project got on to popular reel with some luckiness but taken down because of some dirt house because the community chose the dirt house rather than my project. It just shows to me that my project was not even comparable to a dirt house.

rageman96
Site Moderator
Level 34
Artisan Vampire
June 4, 2012, 6:10 am

Hang on, you say most of my blogs are rants about crappy projects, then reference me to blogs about skins and the forums, im confused. And if your always going to deny my opinion, then I don't see the point in wasting my time arguing my point against someone who clearly doesn't care what I think, nor are they ever going to listen to my point of view.

pigonge
Level 60
High Grandmaster Bunny
June 4, 2012, 6:15 am

I am sorry. I should have made it clear that when I say project, they include everything including skins, or any post. That is my fault indeed.


If I do not care I wouldn't be wasting my time giving oppositions to your argument. 

crafter4ever
Level 35
Artisan Slime Tamer
June 3, 2012, 7:13 pm

Don't forget servers
OMG FREE OP DIMUN PLS TO GET WHITELISTED
and don't forget 
GREEFHAXDOWHATEVERYOUWANT servers,
seriously if you are too lazy to set up a server dont make some bull crap that allows people to do whatever they want, this is a building game, while I am ok with a few pvp servers but the mass amount of servers saying free op and do whatever you want get on my nerves.

AwesomeAwesome
Level 7
Apprentice Toast
June 3, 2012, 1:40 pm

I saw a 2x2 texture pack on the pop reel not long ago.
it was approximately the 2,781,283,995th time that I lost faith in humanity.
Seriously, anyone could make that in 10 minutes.

I also recall seeing a lot of hoodie skins, or skins where Steve's face is clearly visible. Rubbish!
This is definetly one of the blogs deserving diamonds, so diamond4u :D

carterbogdan
Level 23
Expert Architect
June 3, 2012, 12:33 pm

To get these of the popular reel we used to use the down-vote button.

Uniblue Media
Level 36
Artisan Nether Knight
June 3, 2012, 12:06 pm

It seems to me that you are complaining about people, giving other creators who have made something bad or used less time, more diamonds.

Well, wake up. If people like something more than an other thing, who are you to say that's wrong? I do not agree with you that these random-diamond-giving people are the issue, but I do see the point about the creator who use more time on one thing, and get's less publicity and appreciation than someone who publish something short and random.

Let's say someone worked on a texture pack for 2 weeks, and then he finally publish it. He get's ca. 20 diamonds for that and nothing more. Then someone else suddenly makes a blog with a small amount of text, which he probably used 15 minutes on to write, and he gets 40 diamonds and gets featured on the front page (I'm talking about you). Isn't this also wrong?

Do you see why I don't get your problem?

Reynard Studios
Level 5
Apprentice Miner
June 3, 2012, 3:19 pm

Uniblue, I admire your works but ragemans post although ture to every wrd is incomplete. You see, if someone takes 5 months to make a pretty house and PMC, by right it should be on the front page. But the key point is importance. For example. In an apocolypse, do you take your i phone or food? The validity of it can sometimes ovverrule all else.

rageman96
Site Moderator
Level 34
Artisan Vampire
June 3, 2012, 1:11 pm

Hmm, you make a fair point, that I'm not going to deny, however you seem to have missed the key point. I know certain things take more effort than others to make. Im not saying that this took moree effort to write than say, making a texture pack. However, this blog isn't pointless, it raises and important issue. The point I'm raising here isn't that the things that take the most effort sometimes don't get pop reel, the point I'm trying to make is that sometimes things that take none or very little effort to make get pop reel far more than they should.

Uniblue Media
Level 36
Artisan Nether Knight
June 3, 2012, 9:14 pm

So is it the people who choose to give this "non-creative", non-hardworking creator a diamond, the really issue? Is it the free will of being able to give anyone you like a diamond, the issue? Is it the product of interest that's bothering you?  That the most wanted content gets on the reel?

What should be done? It seems like the solution here is to make people like more important things or more original contents. I understand that this is about what's more important that other things and that should be on the reel, rather than something unoriginal, stupid, but this is not a problem to solve.

I could list plenty of examples...

On YouTube for example, there's uploaded hundreds of well done videos about Africa and they're poorness, how you could help people that suffer every day, world-problems, politics, animations, short films etc... Videos that have taken weeks to make and often is well made. 

Do you know what's really on the front page of YouTube? Entertainment. Short flash-animations. Ray William Johnson's videos. Makeup-tutorials. Fail-videos of people hurting themselves. Isn't this also unimportant? Some of these videos even lacks so much of creativity and quality.

This "problem" here is because of peoples interest. What most of us find interesting and exciting, gets on the front page. If a dirt house that took 5 minutes to make, gets on the front reel, there's many people who find that house interesting or good. People could have said "Hey! Why is that on the front reel? This [other creation] is far more better than that!", but that just means most people find that dirt house more interesting than that other, way better creation.

I think this is a shame that people admire poor creations, instead of original, creative content, but this is not a problem to solve. The only way this could be solved, is by the admins, picking out new content everyday to be on the front reel.

rageman96
Site Moderator
Level 34
Artisan Vampire
June 4, 2012, 3:03 am

It is a troublesome subject. As it is, the method for thenpopular reel is probably the best one, decided by the community. It would be far too much work for the mods to sift through every submission to make sure the pop reel only has quality content. As it is the blog is merely stating my distaste at the stupid things on the pop reel. But no one person can change this, only the community ad a whole can stop this.

Sketch_Book
Level 21
Expert Unicorn
June 3, 2012, 9:46 am

You know, this did hit the pop reel... the irony...

crpack
Level 8
Apprentice Narwhal
June 3, 2012, 3:11 am

I don'd get why you are complaining. I would assume out of all people that you would understand how people have different opinions. I don't agree with a lot of the front-page stuff but I will not assume that they are worthless and have had no thought put into them. People know what will get popular so that is what they post.

DinowCookie
Level 1
New Miner
June 3, 2012, 12:58 am

'Projects, texturepacks and skins'
and you give an example for projects, texture packs and blogs ;o
wut?

zombiekiller10
Level 21
Expert Miner
June 2, 2012, 11:48 pm

people liked the dirt house because it was funny. people liked the 1x1 tp cause it was one of a kind. im not sure about the blog though, facts nare fun to read

 

DriftSpeed
Level 19
Journeyman Nerd
June 2, 2012, 11:17 pm

I hate nothing more than the fact that just a few people hog the reel with their repetitive projects created using a program in a matter of minutes, taking the place of ones that users worked hard on.

LOLDA
Level 46
Master Ninja
June 2, 2012, 11:27 pm

hmmm yeh, that happens sometimes, but some of the people who are there do make pretty good stuff.

DriftSpeed
Level 19
Journeyman Nerd
June 2, 2012, 11:35 pm

*SOME*
But really, whats the point of download a huge circle with pillars? You can look at it for a second before it crashes your computer.

LOLDA
Level 46
Master Ninja
June 2, 2012, 11:53 pm

yeh, some. Circle with pillars? What was that?

DriftSpeed
Level 19
Journeyman Nerd
June 3, 2012, 11:18 am

Generalization...

LOLDA
Level 46
Master Ninja
June 3, 2012, 7:23 pm

yup

LOLDA
Level 46
Master Ninja
June 2, 2012, 11:01 pm

I know right? I've seen many submissions out there, that have heaps of time put into them, but have a very low amount of popularity. Comon peoples!

CrippledAssassin
Level 17
Journeyman Narwhal
June 2, 2012, 9:45 pm

Its funny because this got on the popular reel

Reynard Studios
Level 5
Apprentice Miner
June 2, 2012, 9:43 pm

I worte a blog just like this awhile ago. The irony.

MinecraftFactionz
Level 26
Expert Creeper Hugger
June 3, 2012, 2:52 pm

That's not ironic.

Rayner_XIII
Site Moderator
Level 45
Master Technomancer
June 2, 2012, 9:36 pm

Insightful and accurate as always, Ragebeast. Hat's off to you.

Giraffestock
Retired Moderator
Level 40
Master Narwhal
June 2, 2012, 9:36 pm

Thanks a ton for this, hopefully it will help

hullio
Level 37
Artisan Dragonborn
June 2, 2012, 8:06 pm

dude
your my idle!

MinecraftFactionz
Level 26
Expert Creeper Hugger
June 2, 2012, 5:58 pm

My thoughts exactly.

Antiqua
Level 59
Grandmaster Elf
June 2, 2012, 4:40 pm

Love it. Diamond for you. <33

Emoticone11
Level 38
Artisan Nether Knight
June 2, 2012, 4:29 pm

I'll admit that I haven't really seen any dirt houses on the reel. I have, though, seen a bunch of annoying youtube guys getting popular often with things that anyone could do. I mean, they're good at making videos, but that doesn't make the project any better.

zombiekiller10
Level 21
Expert Miner
June 2, 2012, 11:49 pm

it was opn 4 april fools day

Snowylips
Level 34
Artisan Dragonborn
June 2, 2012, 1:50 pm

I think you, katie, and I need to come up with another issue and we can all blog on it next week :D hahah it's what we did this time ;)

Hoovy
Level 25
Expert Engineer
June 2, 2012, 12:22 pm

What about teen skins with long ass titles?

Snowylips
Level 34
Artisan Dragonborn
June 2, 2012, 1:49 pm

that's actually  thing by the sites best skinners to improve the crappy teenage skin you already see on here. It's a little initiative to get people to make better skins!

Hoovy
Level 25
Expert Engineer
June 2, 2012, 2:18 pm

But how is that supposed to improve the teen skins?

perfectwing
Level 21
Expert Dragon
June 2, 2012, 12:50 pm

Some really popular skinners got together and made good looking teen skins. Leostereo was one of them.

Hoovy
Level 25
Expert Engineer
June 2, 2012, 1:05 pm

In my opinion they are not so good. BUT IT'S JUST MY OPINION!!!

perfectwing
Level 21
Expert Dragon
June 2, 2012, 10:51 pm

I don't ever get mad at people for opinions.

raolin1994
Level 22
Expert Architect
June 2, 2012, 12:18 pm

Could not agree more. Well said Rageman!

Ratchetar
Level 34
Artisan Blockhead
June 2, 2012, 11:41 am

And the most stupid thing of all: It's the commnity that makes them hit the front page!
there are some really dumb people on the internet...

-Ratchetar

Blockorz
Level 20
Expert Blockhead
June 2, 2012, 8:42 am

Agreed with all of those.I'll start a Hand-Drawn cartoony Pack soon,hope it won't be intercepted by a 2x2,1x1 or "simplistic" 8x8 Texture pack

Squidfather
Level 27
Expert Demolitionist
June 2, 2012, 7:50 am

The blogs thing happened EXACTLY to me. I had a story that took an hour to wirte and only 3 diamonds, and then there was the thingy full of facts that I actually DID already know about Minecraft. Which, btw, was super popular. Fml.

MinecraftFactionz
Level 26
Expert Creeper Hugger
June 2, 2012, 6:00 pm

Just because something took a long time to make doesn't (always) correlate to it being good. I have not seen your story and cant say that this holds true for you, but people may just not have liked it.

Squidfather
Level 27
Expert Demolitionist
June 2, 2012, 6:49 pm

I'm not exclusively referring to diamonds, but to views as well. Like no views. At all.

Appo24
Level 38
Artisan Architect
June 2, 2012, 7:49 am

Diamond for TRUF

Also if creativity was the purpose of planet minecraft the popular reel wouldn't be flavour of the month (avengers, hunger games, harry potter etc.)

Slipknotica
Level 28
Expert Pixel Puncher
June 2, 2012, 5:04 am

This was spot on. Really good, man! 
Keep it up.

SaiShady
Level 25
Expert Geek
June 2, 2012, 4:37 am

THAT is why we need the downvote button back.

Stevenleonon
Level 29
Expert Creeper Hugger
June 2, 2012, 3:14 am

*reads blog part* I am highly offended. D:<
Really, some of those blogs do have good things, (though it probably sounds idiotic coming from me.) But the texture pack thing has been happening a lot lately - 8x8, 4x4, 2x2 and then finally 1x1. It's really ticking me off. :/
But good rant. ;D


Steven

Turtleshell_Luck
Level 45
Master Turtle
June 2, 2012, 3:14 am

Y'know what annoys me the most about those blog parts? That person literally just went to minecraft wiki and read it, and re-typed it! I can do that, my baby brother can do that! Even a semi-smart monkey can do that!

BonreoCat
Level 19
Journeyman Skinner
June 2, 2012, 2:58 am

I remember a texture pack hitting the pop reel..you know what it was?The author didn't have any pictures and he just described how it looks.

BetaEdit
Level 35
Artisan Robot
June 2, 2012, 6:42 am

Maybe ppl downloaded it and they thought it looked good?

Animatrix
Site Moderator
Level 8
Apprentice Goblin
June 2, 2012, 2:54 am

F**k. Yes. I forever love you. Lets have babies. Nao.

Exurbia
Forum Moderator
Level 49
Master Necromancer
June 2, 2012, 3:29 am

Nuu.
We're having babies.

Animatrix
Site Moderator
Level 8
Apprentice Goblin
June 2, 2012, 10:21 am

Maybe we could ask Rage to have babies too.

Nymus
Level 1
New Miner
June 2, 2012, 4:51 am

And I'm claiming the first-born to cybernetically augment them to kill the other ones.

Animatrix
Site Moderator
Level 8
Apprentice Goblin
June 2, 2012, 10:21 am

And my one's called "Princess Chewbacca". Regardless of gender.

Nymus
Level 1
New Miner
June 2, 2012, 5:12 pm

Punch it, Chewie!

Exurbia
Forum Moderator
Level 49
Master Necromancer
June 2, 2012, 2:30 am

Nice! 
+1

Mikel
Level 20
Expert Ninja
June 2, 2012, 2:20 am

The dirt house was a nice joke, but it seriously doesn't deserves diamonds. About the other stuff i completely agree.

Supershadowdan12
Retired Moderator
Level 37
Artisan Creeper Hugger
June 2, 2012, 2:10 am

Cough, I believe you mean the '11 facts you may not know' and one of those took them all of one video and still got 100 diamonds. Absolutely ridiculous.

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