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Rouge
Level 47 : Master Geek
Servers these days just have their ranking systems all wrong. Admin and moderator ranks should NOT be obtained by donating to the server! If you want to promote someone, it shouldn't just be a spur of the moment thing. They should be active on the server and you should have some kind of other communication with them. This could be a voice chat server, skype, etc. Once you actually know them pretty good, you should quiz them according to the plugins you have. YOU CAN NOT JUST PROMOTE SOMEONE AND EXPECT THEM TO KNOW WHAT TO DO. If you want to make moderator and admin guidelines those are very helpful.

ADMINS:

What do they do? Administrate the server. These people monitor the console, configure plugins, etc. If someone is an admin, they should have control of the console and the servers files. There really isn't a need for a owner rank, but if you want one have ONE owner and NO co-owners.

What should there previous knowledge be? Admins need to know how to run a server. They should have previous knowledge! They need to be able to know how to add plugins, configure plugins, and other general knowledge for running a server.

MODERATORS:

What do they do? Moderate the content that is on the server. These people should be able to kick, ban, view logs on the server for who built and destroy, etc. They should be very trusted but not really have any in-game advantages.

What should there previous knowledge be? Moderators will need to know some simple in-game commands. They will need to be able to know how to kick, ban, and view logs, depending on which plugins you use.

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Thanks now I can show the owner of a server that I am a moderator on that moderators need to have OP to kick/ban people/hackers (yup he does not give moderators op, but give is to builders)
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What about *Helpers*
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  • Kokua
  • Level 1
  • New Miner
  • August 6, 2016, 7:41 am
Good subject and I like your views. I would add that Admins and Mods should have rules to follow themselves, put in place by the Owner. They are a reflection of the owner in my view. As an owner I'd rather do it all myself than to have bossy and selfish staff. You mostly get THAT when you don't promote someone based on knowledge or time spent on the server. So I agree to no paid ranks!! (besides it's against Mojang's EULA to have paid ranks.)

I recognize that some players are just plain idiotic and troublemakers and need to be dealt with the hammer down!! BUT the majority of players just want to play and enjoy their game and get some help now and then. I think that is what Moderators are for helping the players and dealing with them to make a more peaceful environment on the server.

Admins are for helping the Server/Owner out (which also means helping the players and Moderators but in a more limited capacity). They need to have info about the server and plugin instructions and pass it on, which means they need to know as much as the Owner and Vice Versa, or at least take the time to find out the answers. I'm working to know all I can about making a good and better server which takes time and effort and Admins are so great at having your back.

I also am against putting major restrictions on the server like worrying about Spam or Advertising. I've seen Mods and Admins spending too much time telling people to watch out for CAPS, that's not what their job should have to be! If someone spams too much just kick them or temp ban them. Also I'm not afraid of advertising. Restricting this prevents players from having a conversation about a website they like or a YouTube or even another server. Anyway, I figure if my players are not happy with my server then they should find one that makes them happy. My job is to try to make my server user friendly and give them an enjoyable game environment without interfering with the other players, which in turn, will take some pressure off the staff. I do favor a ticket system to help the Admins and Moderators so they are not besieged continually in the chat environment. That's a rule I think should be added. Rule # 532 Make a ticket if you need help. Haha!

One more thing: Players are invaluable in their knowledge and I think a rank should be added for Helpers/Trainers/Workers/Whatever without them being staff but giving them some special permissions for the help they give. Maybe that could be the VIP rank. I don't think a server would be very much with out the players. They are really the heart of the server in my opinion. And all those unruly kiddos might just be great Admins or Owners one day themselves.
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  • JuiceTea
  • Level 44
  • Master Witch
  • April 12, 2016, 1:24 pm
While people shouldn't get mod for donating ranks are okay. It costs money to run a server and ranks are just a way of funding the server. Giving mod to random people isn't a great idea... People will abuse their powers and then the server goes down in flamesssss
FLAMES
BURNING FLAMES 6 FEET TALL
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  • Zorvoan4040
  • Level 1
  • New Explorer
  • April 2, 2016, 6:45 pm
I disagree with admins, they should not have that much perms to the files
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  • TechStudios
  • Level 4
  • Apprentice Architect
  • October 9, 2015, 10:14 am
I disagree--Administrators shouldn't have full-access to the server control panel and console and all that.. That's too OP and owner-like. The owner has perms to do that, administrators should build mini-games, partly-moderate the chat, make sure staff are doing their job, make sure mods moderate the chat, moderate the chat if Moderators are not online, etc. Administrators shouldn't have so much owner permissions, like lower it down so administrators can't have console in which the console you can have access to if you log into your host as the owner... To complicated. Moderators should just moderate the chat, ban people, vanish and tp to people to see if they're hacking, and all that.
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  • the3rdnumber
  • Level 65
  • High Grandmaster Artist
  • May 30, 2014, 9:10 am
what about moderators getting gamemode change? do you think it is needed?
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but i did not know i can see and go back in time and who destroyed it. :P
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hey i'm a moderator i know i can ban , kick so..
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  • GOLDC3PO
  • Level 3
  • Apprentice Dragon
  • April 7, 2013, 1:24 am
well none of my admins and moderators can do this, might remove them, pm me and you might be one if you know enough to be one
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  • Phrozenbit
  • Level 1
  • New Miner
  • November 12, 2012, 11:52 am
Ah, 'top' in the image.

Running Java as root ?
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  • rockstar7631
  • Level 1
  • New Explorer
  • November 5, 2012, 6:49 am
What commands do mod's have?
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  • Bing123456789
  • Level 12
  • Journeyman Mage
  • November 4, 2012, 1:18 am
step 1: Ask for adminz
step 2: hundreds of griefers come on knowing there is no admins OR they apply for admin and grief
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  • Odiin46
  • Level 1
  • New Miner
  • July 30, 2015, 5:15 pm
haha
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  • F1r3tar
  • Level 1
  • New Miner
  • October 26, 2012, 7:53 pm
This is very true, I saw this server that if you donated 50 bucks, you got promoted to mod.
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  • Odiin46
  • Level 1
  • New Miner
  • July 30, 2015, 5:17 pm
well crap
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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  • Agt_Montag
  • Level 55
  • Grandmaster Architect
  • August 7, 2012, 6:54 pm
Wow! This was very helpful. Thank you
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  • alfnzo
  • Level 5
  • Apprentice Crafter
  • June 27, 2012, 8:50 am
let me get this... so u sit around on windows 98 and use dos to monitor people???
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  • Rouge
  • Level 47
  • Master Geek
  • June 27, 2012, 9:36 am
Lol, that picture? For one, it's not Windows 98, second, it's just the task manager monitoring the server.
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  • Yu_Jin_X5
  • Level 1
  • New Engineer
  • May 6, 2012, 6:05 am
read my messages
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Wow this is amazing I totally agree with you
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  • MrFinder
  • Level 39
  • Artisan Cake
  • February 21, 2012, 1:44 am
great post rouge!

it seems most servers think the donating way is the best, but you show the true path of the ranks! :)
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Agreed, the most powerful person on my old most favourite server (aside from the admin) is because of donating, and me who has experience, and played for over 6 months and became great friends with the owner, get nothing. This other guy just donated a bunch of money and doesn't even have any experience like me.
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  • weja
  • Level 16
  • Journeyman Robot
  • January 28, 2012, 2:47 pm
This post is true :)I have some experience with adding mods just because of spur of the moment..

Some stuff went a bit wrong.. :D But I've learned my lesson :)

thanks for good post.
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  • Jetthebuizel
  • Level 45
  • Master Gent
  • January 28, 2012, 1:37 pm
This is spot on.
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  • Po1ntBlank
  • Level 45
  • Master Hunter
  • January 27, 2012, 7:39 pm
I disagree with the only one owner, and admin rank.I let my admins have access to every single command on the server, the moderators have limited access, but still can ban/kick people, etc. The owners are the few I allow access to the console, and the FTP
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  • Rouge
  • Level 47
  • Master Geek
  • January 28, 2012, 3:23 am
I said the stuff about admins, and moderators too. :P But we just disagree about the owner rank.
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  • Po1ntBlank
  • Level 45
  • Master Hunter
  • January 28, 2012, 8:20 am
Yeah, I see that. I just personally have felt that Admins don't set up the server, the owner(s) do/does.
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  • Po1ntBlank
  • Level 45
  • Master Hunter
  • January 27, 2012, 7:40 pm
Other than that, great blog! xD
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  • LAUAR
  • Level 18
  • Journeyman Toast
  • January 28, 2012, 5:50 am
Use the edit button.
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  • Po1ntBlank
  • Level 45
  • Master Hunter
  • January 28, 2012, 8:18 am
No one cares
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  • LAUAR
  • Level 18
  • Journeyman Toast
  • January 28, 2012, 9:35 am
I do care. -.-
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  • cowabungakid
  • Level 1
  • New Network
  • January 28, 2012, 1:06 pm
No1 cares about you.
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  • LAUAR
  • Level 18
  • Journeyman Toast
  • January 29, 2012, 5:18 am
Me, my family and friends are caring about me...
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  • RandomPanda0
  • Level 23
  • Expert Engineer
  • January 27, 2012, 12:05 pm
Hmm, I'll have to disagree to you on the point about not giving moderators advantages. In a survival server, I find that the moderators can become too occupied with dealing with things that Creative Mode is good for their entertainment.
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  • Gundamned
  • Level 10
  • Journeyman Architect
  • January 28, 2012, 4:28 pm
In our server, Moderators are just like normal players, except with the powers to help moderate. They also have VIP perks as thanks for what they do.
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  • Rouge
  • Level 47
  • Master Geek
  • January 27, 2012, 1:22 pm
I don't know, there job is more to help players they may need to be able to fly though but other than that I don't think so.
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  • Shivasu
  • Level 1
  • New Miner
  • January 28, 2012, 1:33 pm
I agree with you Rogue, Moderators are there to moderate, specifically. Of course they may have as much fun and play the game as other ranks, but they have a responsibility. They are not there to be the richest people in a survival server. Their rank should be based on helping others/kicking/banning when necessary/using logblock or whatever to clear grief etc. And also, I agree that promoting people whom donate to admin/moderator is wrong, you have no knowledge of what kind of person they are. You can't even trust them. You must be able to trust your moderators and admins.
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  • Zaralith
  • Retired Moderator
  • Level 56
  • Grandmaster Wizard
  • January 27, 2012, 10:18 am
Unfortunately, too many people do not understand this sort of thing. All of those servers advertising first in gets op I see getting a malicious op. Just one person going from server to server for those and running /stop would probably kill all of these server listings on the principle of the listing. As a moderator I cannot condone this sort of behavior however.
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  • Pownage
  • Retired Moderator
  • Level 1
  • New Explorer
  • January 27, 2012, 1:24 pm
I saw a server that said first four people to diamond get op, I didn't diamond, went on the server, said I diamonded and became op...Then I made them pay, made them pay HARD. Lets just say I spammed the whole world with signs that said DON'T USE DIAMOND BRIBERY and destroyed everything xD
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  • Zaralith
  • Retired Moderator
  • Level 56
  • Grandmaster Wizard
  • January 27, 2012, 2:27 pm
Next time, please report submissions like that instead of trolling.
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  • Pownage
  • Retired Moderator
  • Level 1
  • New Explorer
  • January 27, 2012, 2:50 pm
That was about 3 months ago, before diamond bribery wasn't paid attention to that much. I know what to do now. :)
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  • Rouge
  • Level 47
  • Master Geek
  • January 27, 2012, 11:12 am
Yes, agreed. It is also hard to find people fit for the job.
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  • Evans
  • Retired Moderator
  • Level 1
  • New Network
  • January 27, 2012, 8:54 am
Agreed.
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  • KCUROV
  • Level 21
  • Expert Dragonborn
  • January 27, 2012, 9:36 am
Aww, you've beat me too it :c. Also agreed.
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