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What Is and What Isn't a Good Texture. [My Opinion.]

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Posted 07/06/12 2:48:48 pm
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One thing which I have noticed is that people upload texture packs that are just plain bad. A lot of people don't know the difference between good or bad textures, so I am here to set that straight. Please remember, these are just my opinions, and feel free to share your thoughts in the comments section below.

Let's begin.


Part 1, Bad and Good Simple Textures.


Section 1, Bad Simple Textures.

First, I am going to start with the least good texture of all, OCD styled. I personally don't like the OCD textures, mostly because it has been done a thousand times before, and it takes less than 2 seconds to make them.

Tut1.png

What is wrong with the texture:

Not enough detail or shading, very generic and just all around not great.

Side notes: Most texture packs to use this style of block also take the colors from the default, making the pack even less original.

Second, a texture that is slightly better, but not by much, scribbled lines. While it is not as common as the OCD style, it pops up occasionally.

Tut2.png

What is wrong with the texture:

Complete lack of shading and detail. No consistent look, and almost always has poor tiling.

Side notes: Also, one of the quickest textures to make.


Section 2, Good Simple textures.

Yes, there are good simple textures, but they are less common, most are the result of adding more shading and detail, so here are some examples.

The first example is a simple rectangle texture. More detail has been added, and the theme is consistent. Also, much easier to get to tile than most textures.

Tut3.png

But there are some problems.

Rectangles and squares have to be close in size. Cannot have two shapes of the same color next to each other.

Next, we have annother style that is much more appealing, speckled. This is one of the hardest styles of simple pack to pull off, because it does not work on most blocks. It is also one of the most detailed style of simple packs.Tut4.png

But as with any texture, there are some problems.

Spacing and shading matter a lot here, and all of the squares have to line up consistently.

And lastly, we have one final style of texture, patterned. While it is easy to make tile, identifying blocks at times will be left down to color, so watch your step. But any kind of tiling pattern can be applied to this style, making it very executable and creating an all around pleasing look.

Tut7.png

These are not the only ways to make good simple textures, they are just a few styles that can be used.


But not all bad and good textures are simple, there are some bad noisy packs too.

Part two, Bad and Good Noisy Textures.


Section 1, Bad Noisy Textures.

Yes, there are bad noisy textures, most are from applying a noise filter to a simple texture, as shown below.

Tut5.png

There are ways to create the affect of noise without a filter, but we will discuss that later.

But not all bad noisy textures come from a filter, some are from using tools such as smudge, which brings us to our next bad texture, blurry/ smeared.

Often, these textures are made when someone has a simple texture that they want to make look "Better". They will often add a blur filter or use the smudge tool by hand, making for some rather ugly looking blocks.Tut8.png

What's wrong with the texture:

No attention to tiling or shading, messy look to block.

Lastly, we have the high contrast scribbled noise.

Tut9.png

What's wrong with the texture:

No attention to tiling or shading, contrasy causes an eye burn.


Section 2, Good Noisy Textures.

Good noisy textures usually have no filters applied, and the noise in them is an illusion caused by the ammount of detail. Good noisy textures are hard to get to tile, but they are worth it. There are too many ways to make a good noisy texture, but you can get an idea from these.

Tut6.png

Tut10.png


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Thanks for reading, have a nice day :)

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PPG
Level 12
Journeyman Unicorn
June 3, 2013, 12:18 pm

the ones you hate are just simply smooth texture packs its not susposed to be like HD

Kaduu
Level 24
Expert Pixel Painter
May 13, 2013, 7:59 am

Of my God! :3
I'm actually starting a texture pack from one of those styles. I already got inspiration, but this helped be getting the blocks not that boring anymore! :D

Aximili
Level 57
Grandmaster Dwarf
March 10, 2013, 1:22 pm

I ruined your 123 diamonds!

xXPecuniamXx
Level 17
Journeyman Unicorn
March 9, 2013, 5:13 am

I've drawn textures in MS paint by hand...

dunkey4
Level 29
Expert Ranger
March 8, 2013, 4:29 pm

wow, diamond and fav

TheArtist
Level 29
Expert Pixel Painter
February 8, 2013, 11:36 pm

Why did you take a photo of your screen?
Why not just PrtSc?

Derpinston
Level 23
Expert Pixel Painter
January 30, 2013, 2:13 am

Nice screenshot. :) I mean it.

falkok15
Level 42
Master Technomancer
January 8, 2013, 4:12 pm

Em...whats a nosiy texture?

dancats511
Level 28
Expert Demolitionist
March 1, 2013, 9:52 am

Basically it's like how the default texture gravel used to look, it's like a random mix of different shades of color that's kind of random. I miss the gravel textures, though :(

falkok15
Level 42
Master Technomancer
March 1, 2013, 10:41 am

If you mean the old one, then I know what you mean :D

G_Ghost
Level 1
New Crafter
September 11, 2012, 5:44 am

:D 100th comment, and nice work btw ;)

Scoll207
Level 6
Apprentice Engineer
August 20, 2012, 5:22 pm

I still have no idea how to make a texture pack....

MrCreep3r1337
Level 23
Expert Pixel Puncher
August 20, 2012, 5:17 pm

I just read this (finally) and I'm just telling you, I'm making an actually GOOD texture pack right now.


More complex than oCd, more simplistic than default.

LRazor
Level 8
Apprentice Pony
August 20, 2012, 1:55 am

cool,100 diamond

namelesswalnut
Level 31
Artisan Blacksmith
August 19, 2012, 9:29 pm

Good stuff, diamond. 

Jookoo
Level 19
Journeyman Mountaineer
August 9, 2012, 11:09 am

Thanks for this. I read this a while ago, and then found out it was by you :D

yumyumcake10
Level 3
Apprentice Hunter
July 31, 2012, 5:36 pm

I think the reason people make bad textures is because most texture packs get loads of views.
Its also because some people aren't just very good at making packs so maybe they think its good.
I think your opinions are good but sometimes what the creators think is whats important.
(100th comment!)

LordTrilobite
Site Moderator
Level 68
High Grandmaster Pirate
July 25, 2012, 2:36 am

Nice little article, though I think it could have been a more elaborate. For exampl you could demonstrate those tiles in tiling formation so people can even more clearly see the difference and why something is good or bad. Looking at just one tile it's very hard to tell if it will tile nicely or not, you need an overview for that.

jeffrey_O
Level 1
New Miner
July 25, 2012, 1:44 am

TRY last one!

RotroMotion
Level 1
New Explorer
July 13, 2012, 9:43 pm

Would you mind checking out this youtube link? i think it might be worth your and your blog post's time. s long as you like the video ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJKFM3C_2Ic
PLEASE check it out :D

peytonisgreat
Level 51
Grandmaster Meme
July 13, 2012, 9:48 pm

The styles and techniques you use are nowhere how I do it, but it gets the job done with a good look.

McMonkeyburger
Level 19
Journeyman Toast
July 12, 2012, 6:53 am

Yeah okay, OCD textures don't require a lot of work. But it's a good way to start and if you like it looking simple, then it's fine. I can see why you would prefer a higher detail texture pack, and sometimes I do to. But a simple texture pack just does it for me. I only made mine for my own use, put it on here and it seems a few people liked it.

peytonisgreat
Level 51
Grandmaster Meme
July 12, 2012, 8:40 am

Yeah, but the problem is that so many of them get posted.

blockmaker55
Level 1
New Miner
July 9, 2012, 10:12 am

i happen to to really like the ocd pack but i dont use it for regular game play i use it when i build and build with redstone

AlexandraLenox
Level 28
Expert Architect
July 9, 2012, 9:00 am

John Smith 32x32 HD Texture pack in my opinion is THE best texture pack. Would you do a review on it? :) You can download it from HERE. (Takes you straight to the mediafire page) :)

Grazer46
Level 29
Expert Nerd
August 21, 2012, 1:11 pm

Agreed mam :)

xAudaa
Site Moderator
Level 31
Artisan Miner
July 9, 2012, 11:20 am

Dokucraft Light all the way brah

AlexandraLenox
Level 28
Expert Architect
July 9, 2012, 12:16 pm

1. I'm female.
2. Have you tried John Smith?

xAudaa
Site Moderator
Level 31
Artisan Miner
July 9, 2012, 6:27 pm

1. Whoops
2. Yep, i have Dokucraft, John Smith, R3d craft and Misa's realistic texture pack. It's just preference really. I guess since i used doku before john smith. It's not that i dont think John Smith is bad, it's really good, but i'm more familiar with doku.

AlexandraLenox
Level 28
Expert Architect
July 9, 2012, 7:17 pm

My projects are all done in John Smith.. I think it's a BEAUTIFUL texture pack... everything just flows so well together. :) Here's my latest project done in John Smith! :)

xAudaa
Site Moderator
Level 31
Artisan Miner
July 9, 2012, 10:05 pm

Damn that's crazy good. Although i still think Doku is better in the sense that im more familiar with it ;L Love the work though, subscribed :)

AlexandraLenox
Level 28
Expert Architect
July 9, 2012, 10:49 pm

I thought you'd appreciate it! :) And aww thanks!! appreciate that!! <3


I get it though... even if there was a texture pack better than John Smith, I'm still dedicated to it.. lol :P

peytonisgreat
Level 51
Grandmaster Meme
July 11, 2012, 12:03 pm

You did not make the John Smith pack, so not upload spam on my thread!

AlexandraLenox
Level 28
Expert Architect
July 11, 2012, 8:34 pm

... Spam? Are you retarded? I was just saying, simply, that it is a quality texture pack.. like what you've explained to be a good texture pack. And I NEVER claimed to have done the texture pack, did I? So re-read my comment and shut up. I won't be reading your stuff anymore, rude.

peytonisgreat
Level 51
Grandmaster Meme
July 11, 2012, 8:37 pm

I consider it spam since you posted a download link. You could have just said you liked the JohnSmith pack, you did not need to post a download.

AlexandraLenox
Level 28
Expert Architect
July 11, 2012, 8:42 pm

As my comment was directed at you.. since before I valued your opinion on texture packs.. I figured I'd be courteous and send you a link. Sorry I did that.

peytonisgreat
Level 51
Grandmaster Meme
July 11, 2012, 8:45 pm

Well, I did not mean to come off rude. You could have messaged me a link, or just asked what I thought about the pack. I am familiar with the pack, and I think that it is rather well made. Again, I am sorry for coming off rude.

AlexandraLenox
Level 28
Expert Architect
July 11, 2012, 8:48 pm

Well I'm glad we agree. It's fine.

skinforger7245
Level 13
Journeyman Pokemon
July 9, 2012, 10:57 am

Personally I dont think so i think its crap y do u like it

AlexandraLenox
Level 28
Expert Architect
July 9, 2012, 12:17 pm

I'm not sure who you're talking to? Me? If so, see my project.

daanwillem
Level 29
Expert Musician
July 9, 2012, 11:31 am

summerfields!

smid1
Level 18
Journeyman Geek
July 9, 2012, 1:25 am

No one of them looks good exept http://dl.dropbox.com/u/43057002/Tutorials/Tut6.png

Tux_98
Level 1
New Miner
July 8, 2012, 10:41 pm

a example of a good simple pack is melius 8x8
and zedzaws other packs

harper123
Level 9
Apprentice Farmer
July 8, 2012, 5:48 pm

Good blog. I like giving diamonds so here you go :)

Dufubla
Level 58
Grandmaster Architect
July 8, 2012, 3:16 pm

What about higher resolution packs?

peytonisgreat
Level 51
Grandmaster Meme
July 8, 2012, 3:30 pm

Same rules apply.

I_rate_servers
Level 6
Apprentice Skinner
July 8, 2012, 2:08 pm

what is the best programming system to make texture packs on a macbookpro?

Dufubla
Level 58
Grandmaster Architect
July 8, 2012, 3:17 pm

Making texture packs requires no programming.

micdoodle8
Level 77
Legendary Programmer
July 8, 2012, 11:15 am

Nice blog, I also agree with all of your opinions. Now I need to get around to improving some of mine :P

Maximum Velocity
Level 1
New Crafter
July 8, 2012, 10:58 am

Great blog, my thoughts match yours. But I'm still a begginer at Minecraft art, although I'm better than alot of begginers. Please check out my first skin and give me some feedback in the comments section. It's called , Seaweed Monster.

vaxivop
Level 30
Artisan Spelunker
July 8, 2012, 10:35 am

Because taking a screenshot is just too mainstream.

Own
Level 4
Apprentice Mage
July 8, 2012, 6:32 am

I would like to see you make the OCD pack dirt in 2 seconds. I havens seen anyone make a texture in 2 seconds or less.

peytonisgreat
Level 51
Grandmaster Meme
July 8, 2012, 7:33 am

That is how long it took me to make the OCD dirt in this. Just Bucket fill, lines.

Own
Level 4
Apprentice Mage
July 8, 2012, 8:15 am

I dont believe you. I can only do it i like 11.

I_rate_servers
Level 6
Apprentice Skinner
July 8, 2012, 3:11 pm

i can do it it is easy just put your pencil onto thick and you just do it

Own
Level 4
Apprentice Mage
July 9, 2012, 10:10 am

Make a video about it. I take about 3 or 4 seconds to make the outline of the thing.

daanwillem
Level 29
Expert Musician
July 9, 2012, 11:33 am

hahahaha

Kittylicious98
Level 8
Apprentice Miner
July 8, 2012, 6:30 am

sooo true

khanaris
Level 60
High Grandmaster Pirate
July 8, 2012, 4:27 am

This is a good article, but it would be better if you added screenshots of what some of these look like in game rather than just posting squares...

AlexHassler47
Level 24
Expert Modder
July 8, 2012, 12:39 am

diamond for u

Uniblue Media
Level 36
Artisan Nether Knight
July 7, 2012, 12:15 pm

...and still you aren't available to "PrintScreen" xD
I like blog. It's clean, formative and contains lot's of examples.
Still, I'm kinda disagreeing with you on some points. I'm kinda lazy today, so I'll throw out some critical questions:
  • What about the people who do not have enough expertise within texturing? Should they not post their creation, because it will receive negative response?
  • What is a correct texture? Isn't it more about what the creator want to make?
  • Simple, clean textures are an own genre withing gaming textures. Some people would rather appreciate these, instead of highly detailed ones. We are all different. Agree?
  • Why should we listen to you (you haven't presented yourself)?

peytonisgreat
Level 51
Grandmaster Meme
July 7, 2012, 12:26 pm

And I will answer your questions:

- I personally didn't release my first pack (IT was a horrible simplified default that looked like a mix of OCD and the original Simplecraft) I waited until I got better, and I will admit that I did get impatient and released some default recolors, which I know was stupid. But after almost a year, I am now capable of making the level of textures that I can now. (Even though I said I have been texturing for a year, I have only done it seriously since April.)

- Yes it is about what the creator wants, but what the creator wants is almost never what the communty wants, and they may get lots of negative feedback.

- Yes, I personally like simple textures, but they have to have some flair.

- You should listen to me because I have experience and I took time out of my day to make an at least semi helpful guide for some.

Thanks for reading this, have a nice day :D

Uniblue Media
Level 36
Artisan Nether Knight
July 7, 2012, 12:46 pm

And here's a response to your answers to my questions:
  • So you mean everyone should do the same as you? I didn't quite get a clear answer out of that.
  • I think it's all about what the creator want to achieve with his texture. If it is popularity, he/she should think about what people want. If it is improvement, then he/she should challenge himself. If it is enjoyment, he/she could do whatever he/she want. This could go on. There's should be no rule or guidance that says: "you must create something people want".
  • Yes, but this is details you believe is flaws. These are not globally.
  • You didn't state that you had good experience with textures in this blog. How can we know this, then? Links to your previous work would have been splendid.
Thanks for replying. Have a nice night :D

RiotShielder
Level 13
Journeyman Pony
July 8, 2012, 6:42 am

Owned. xD, also I think simple packs look pretty cool, depending on how they are executed, everyone have their own style and their own reason, no reason to question what they like and what they like to make, I would say this article was more informative than helpful.


-Riot

Diamonddozen
Level 36
Artisan Droid
July 7, 2012, 12:10 pm

I'm sorry to bother you Mr. Is Great, but the second texture of both the good and bad noise are the same.

peytonisgreat
Level 51
Grandmaster Meme
July 7, 2012, 12:14 pm

No, they are much different, the good one doesn't have the big spot and I used only the pencil tool with 5 colors.

TOMSONO
Level 45
Master Creeper Hugger
July 7, 2012, 9:31 am

i agree with you but please watch my texture packs....i want you to say are they good or not...

Waystreet
Level 57
Grandmaster Hero
July 7, 2012, 7:30 am

Good, but why do you take picture with a camera insted of screenshot, lol?

peytonisgreat
Level 51
Grandmaster Meme
July 7, 2012, 8:39 am

Because my computer wouldn't let me.

NinjaRules
Level 49
Master Ninja
July 7, 2012, 10:07 am

Look up "Gyazo" it's an easy way to take screenshots of certain parts of your screen.

Waystreet
Level 57
Grandmaster Hero
July 7, 2012, 8:45 am

Ok

tomtheblob
Level 55
Grandmaster Turtle
July 7, 2012, 8:10 am

XD

Live2Pwn2010
Level 28
Expert Modder
July 7, 2012, 5:33 am

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