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avatar SourC00kie
Level 38 : Artisan Bunny
Posted 09/23/11 7:44:14 pm
09/23/11
PMC is a wonderful site to upload projects, texture packs, skins, servers and mods. Blog are included however you can't really "steal" blogs.

People upload many different submissions and about 90% of them are original, however there is that tiny 10% that is absolutely unoriginal.

Since PMC has a rank-up platform that means that people just want to be the highest level possible. (Will soon post blog about that too.) Being a very high level really means nothing, you just have more features and a higher level tag by your name. However people interpret this differently. The unoriginal content producers just want to rank up. Being a higher level to them means people "looking" up to you or "respecting" you. I don't find it that way. Level ranking just shows how many submissions you have posted and how good your submissions are. People that upload unoriginal content that looks really good but not created by them do indeed get more XP from this.

There are many different sites similar to PMC where you can upload different submissions. People on those sites that upload their content probably have no idea what PMC is. So they provide a download link or an embed code and voila. The unoriginal content providers zap that stolen project on PMC and claim it as their own.

Usually it is quite hard to figure out that a submission isn't someones, but I have created a list on how to find out if someone's content is rightfully theirs or not.

1. Look at the person's other content, if it doesn't match the quality of the unoriginal one, something isn't right.
2. Observe how quick the person uploads content. (Sometimes this tactic doesn't always work)
3. Ask other people if they think the person is unoriginal

These are just some tips on how to find out if something is unoriginal or not. I'm sure there are plenty of other tips on how to find them.

The main point is, if you ever see any type of unoriginal content, don't hesitate to report it. A Moderator will see it, review it and if needed, will remove the submission.

Thanks for your time, together we can all stop those unoriginal providers!

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Scoll207
Level 6
Apprentice Engineer
August 29, 2012, 5:37 pm

Another way to see if they have stolen it is if there is a white background behind the text. That means it has been copied and pasted onto Planet Minecraft, however this is not always the case, as some descriptions can take a while and people just copy from what they wrote on Microsoft word so they can finish it in their own time.

If anyone knows a way to remove the white background from copying from Word could they please tell me?
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Hermesbird
Level 25
Expert Robot
June 20, 2012, 12:56 pm

I know, right... This stuff really makes me mad. Especially people who steal (I've had some of my stuff stolen, too).

I hate seeing all of the same stuff around. Especially when it's reposts/bad edits. 
If people really want to submit something, they could at least have the decency of starting it from scrap, or just posting a link to the original submission!
What's the satisfaction in getting diamonds and praise, if what you are being praised about isn't your work to begin with?
I just don't get these people.

I don't say I'm that original myself, I base my skins off already existing characters. But I never ever stole something, I try to make my pieces into quality work, and always credit when I take inspiration from someone's work. Why can't people do the same?
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JamesTheAwesomeDude
Level 21
Expert Farmer
January 20, 2012, 8:47 am

If you have posted your mod somewhere else, does it count as spam to post it on PMC as well?
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Smasher200
Level 29
Expert Pixel Painter
April 1, 2012, 7:11 am

No
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the5miners
Level 33
Artisan Modder
December 13, 2011, 12:27 pm

just wondering what could i do about this , http://hacks.games-offline.com/weapons-minecraft-181-mod/ , i did not post this and ths my post http://www.planetminecraft.com/mod/more-than-better-wepons/ , i made it, they just copied my post of the forms http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/782539-more-than-better-wepons-modloader/page__p__10150213__fromsearch__1#entry10150213 , this my mod beacause i have the updated version, check the date's, im just asking what could be done
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(AVE(N)GER)
Level 50
Grandmaster Pirate
December 4, 2011, 9:50 pm

one of my stories :p

i had a person out there with an duplicate of one of my more popular skins.. they just edited a few pixels (claimed it was better) and re-uploaded it .. 

he claimed i was having a fit (using less colourful words here)

and than I amazingly got a downvote on all my latest skins.. (i think they stopped as i had around 40+ submissions at the time)

gota love those people's :p
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brokenscouter
Level 19
Journeyman Pokemon
November 5, 2011, 10:48 am

Good call man. There is SOOO Much stuff on this website being stolen. There was a guy who took a random Batman and a Random Iron man and just gave Batman an Ironman head. Someone Complained and reported it to a moderator because he isn't an idiot.
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Mayz
Level 36
Artisan Bunny
October 25, 2011, 4:36 pm

I Know How You Feel
It Sucks
I Once Made A map
And Posted It On Another Forum To Share But Than This Guy
Toke It And Posted it On Some Forum.
I Told him That He Copied It And I Wouldn't get Him Into Trouble if He Just Removed It
But He Said I Was lying.
I Eventually Won It Back But Knowing How Hard 
You Worked On It Just To Have Some Tool Take It Sucks.
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Pykes
Level 41
Master Technomancer
October 17, 2011, 7:56 pm

I had a bad situation with someone who copied a texture pack of mine, down to the last detail.


I had made a really interesting texture pack, so I wanted to start including it on other sites, but then I found my own texture pack, Mentioned in a forum on here, on a couple other sites, and even reviewed in a youtube video. All credited to someone else.
Everything's been better since then, it's credited to me now, but it really sucks to have that happen to you.
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Zaxteratron
Level 7
Apprentice Dolphin
October 7, 2011, 6:49 pm

If find your blog posts to be very constructive and reasonable about dealing with problems that PMC users and Minecraft players in general have to deal with. I agree with your posts, and this one is no different. I don't understand why a person would steal someone else's skin, project, texture pack or mod. They might want to feel good, but if I ever stole someone's content, I would just feel guilty all the way. I don't know how these 'thieves' would put up with the undue credit. It's especially unfair to the true creator as they don't get their credit they deserve. Leveling systems do come into this, unfortunately. I don't view levels as status, but obviously the majority of people do.
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coconut219
Level 22
Expert Engineer
October 7, 2011, 4:20 pm

off topic:

just wondering, who here came because they saw a picture of fry?

on topic:

I don't know to downvote or upvote or not to vote at all.  o_o ?
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Venima
Level 29
Expert Modder
October 7, 2011, 6:48 am

Ok well, here're some exceptions to those 3 rules you got there.

1. If the content is their only submission, or their other submissions are much smaller projects to practice with, then it might be interpreted as a stolen submission.

2. I generally complete more than one thing before I upload. So that I can meet demands in good time. This means I upload in clumps.

3. What if you ask a rival or troll, or just a down-right idiot?

I have one strong suggestion to prove the authenticy of the submission. For skins, search it on PMC to see if it's already uploaded by someone else. Otherwise google it.

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MrDad
Level 21
Expert Unicorn
September 25, 2011, 5:54 am

Hey Sour, very good blogs you have there, but when you say 90% are original and 10% unoriginal, I think it's the other way around :S

If you check the skin section now, you'll see the Default Skin...like, why?

And most of them are: Honeydews, Xephos, CaptainSparklez Usher Skin, Red Knight, Blue Knight, Redstone Knight...etc...etc...etc... :(
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SourC00kie
Level 38
Artisan Bunny
September 25, 2011, 6:02 am

Thank you.

Actually I do agree with you about turning the numbers around. I guess when I was writing this I wanted to be nice.
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MrDad
Level 21
Expert Unicorn
September 25, 2011, 6:04 am

Next time be realistic :P
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SourC00kie
Level 38
Artisan Bunny
September 25, 2011, 6:07 am

Alright sir, no problemo. Actually I was quite realistic with my 90% of People on PMC Are Lazy blog.
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Lightbulber
Level 13
Journeyman Lumberjack
September 24, 2011, 5:56 pm

i have put up unoriginal content, but i always say its not mine or edited a lot by me
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SourC00kie
Level 38
Artisan Bunny
September 24, 2011, 7:55 pm

Who says you have to? Even if you give credit to the person it's still unoriginal. Try creating something yourself, it might not be as good as someone else, but that doesn't mean you can't try.
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Knarfer
Level 34
Artisan Ninja
October 6, 2011, 1:01 pm

What is the best way to make a skin on pmc and make a texture pack for pmc?
I used to upload unoriginal content, i deleted it all because i realized it was wrong.
Please help a fellow, creative pmc user who wishes to be known for once in his life
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Venima
Level 29
Expert Modder
October 7, 2011, 6:55 am

Well, I'm 19 dunno about you. Take into consideration the variety of age experience when someone is praised for their work.

When it comes to making stuff, I have a list as follows:

Skins - you can use the default as a template and edit in gimp, or a popular one is photoshop. For other templates you can try SkinCraft on newgrounds.com. Note I only use that as a template for what I'm making, I don't submit them alone.

Texture packs - download another texture pack and use that as a template, just make sure you don't submit any of their artwork in yours. You can have some of minecraft's default artwork though.

Mods - I started by downloading Minecraft Coder Pack. Follow the readme to the word. I used this forum for tutorials. I've now started to move onto craftBukkit. I can't say much about that yet.

Anything you're not sure of how to get, google it.

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Knarfer
Level 34
Artisan Ninja
October 7, 2011, 9:56 am

I think i may start with a skin then move on to a 4x4 texture pack


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sKinMaKeR13
Level 12
Journeyman Architect
December 22, 2011, 10:22 am

USe MCskinedit for skins, it rocks.
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Warhawker
Level 39
Artisan Modder
September 24, 2011, 1:27 pm

Someone took my mod textures, changed 2 colors, then used them in his mod :|
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Venima
Level 29
Expert Modder
October 7, 2011, 12:59 pm

which one's that?
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Warhawker
Level 39
Artisan Modder
October 7, 2011, 1:58 pm

It was sorted out. I think. It was my tools I created in gimp, but a few pixels were altered in color.
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inHaze
Site Moderator
Level 90
Elite Terraformer
September 24, 2011, 12:19 pm

Nice blog, the only problem I find with these type of posts is the people that need to read it the most, likely never will. Good tips tho, I often use the first two when checking on questionable items.
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SourC00kie
Level 38
Artisan Bunny
September 24, 2011, 12:57 pm

I completely agree. Especially when there is "so many words", I mean seriously? Just read it as if it were a short story.
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Venima
Level 29
Expert Modder
October 7, 2011, 1:01 pm

Give the description a title in bold and ppl will be happier reading it. Gives them a place to start looking at.
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DestinyPanda
Level 5
Apprentice Skinner
September 24, 2011, 11:48 am

Ehh. Im one of the unoriginal people. But then again i only make my skins for myself so i can look slightly different yet still the same. If i could make my skins private, i probably would.
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Shadoward12
Level 1
New Engineer
September 24, 2011, 11:41 am

I just noticed something... We both joined on the same date... 7/28/11 What is this sorcery?
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SourC00kie
Level 38
Artisan Bunny
September 24, 2011, 12:12 pm

I actually joined on the 27th for my timezone.
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Shadoward12
Level 1
New Engineer
September 24, 2011, 12:27 pm

Well meh! XD
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samochips
Level 43
Master Enderdragon
September 24, 2011, 5:57 am

Great post, this happened to me aswell.
But the danger of this if someone copies a project etc that doesn't got many views at all, and if someone copies it not many will know it's copied, which sucks.
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AmusingMinecraft
Level 1
New Artist
September 24, 2011, 3:41 am

Great post, I was even copied once, but I gave the guy permission AFTER he did it... I'm not even sure if his content is still up but, if you want to get a high level, just make QUALITY content rather than QUANTITY!

and if you can do both, do it!

That's what I did, and I got to level 40 in a short time!
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SourC00kie
Level 38
Artisan Bunny
September 24, 2011, 3:44 am

Yes, people just ALWAYS judge their content to someone else who has had far more experience than them so yes, their content will be better. People think of their content is worse than someone else then they must copy some great work and say it is theirs just to get XP and say that their submission is better.
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BoyOfTheEnders
Level 36
Artisan Artist
September 24, 2011, 2:10 am

I've recently ran into issues with this subject.

It made me feel better informed about my own personal creative rights.

Thanks.
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Charlizard
Site Moderator
Level 55
Grandmaster Unicorn
September 23, 2011, 11:38 pm

Also,the best thing to do to prove your work is original is,Show it being made.So when you are making it include pictures of it 50% done ect.
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SourC00kie
Level 38
Artisan Bunny
September 24, 2011, 3:30 am

Yes, that is also a good point. Showing pictures of something in its early stage is always a way to say that you are developing this project.
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Shadoward12
Level 1
New Engineer
September 23, 2011, 9:30 pm

This is why I am hesitant about uploading any of my skins. I want to share them, but I don't want them to get reposted (uploaded again as someone elses') if people like them. It's harder to copy a project, as projects can be changed and updated at any given time, so the reposted can't keep up.
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SourC00kie
Level 38
Artisan Bunny
September 24, 2011, 3:29 am

You shouldn't be hesitant. You should upload as much as you want to PMC because if someone does try to copy or edit off it and post it as their own, they will be reported and a Mod/Admin will remove the copied submission.
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Shadoward12
Level 1
New Engineer
September 24, 2011, 6:32 am

I just think that to high of a number of reposted material slips through the filter. Whether people don't realize it's stolen, or they just don't care to flag it. Or someone will take the skin, make very minor changes, then call it new. I've seen the "Creeper Hunter" skin, with the creeper pelt and the bandana, way to many times, all by different people. I don't even know which is the original. I fear others could see the reposted skin first, then think the original is the copy.

Edit- I did upload some of my skins :D
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Ultimate_Chimera
Level 32
Artisan Electrician
September 23, 2011, 8:43 pm

I know what you mean...One day I'm browsing popular skins and "POPULAR SKIN: CREEPER IN A SUIT" DX. I don't care how good a skinner they are, they're not original >_> I like your rant, so +1

P.S I'm not a hipster when it comes to skins

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sed11
Forum Moderator
Level 56
Grandmaster Creeper
September 23, 2011, 4:09 pm

I has idea..*May be same as number 1 on your post*

Look at content and search for other content thats the same.

If you find a content that matches look at who posted it.

If they are different that means one of them stole the idea.

Either that or both of them stole and someone made it but didnt post it on PMC

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