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Why Should We Stop Drawing On Pmc? [RANT]

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avatar ChrisSoWorthy
Level 27 : Expert Artist
Posted 05/29/12 5:15:41 pm
05/29/12
This is my first rant on Pmc. Iv'e been drawing and sketching and Pmc and people just go out of their way to say, "This doesn't belong on Planet Minecraft." Well, sorry to break it to you, but we don't care. 

I see this on other artists drawings to, and i'm kind of annoyed. 

People who say this still don't get that I have subscribers that are mods. I have drawn pictures for mods. I Also have made a mod a profile picture. If this didn't belong on Planet Minecraft, it would be taken down. People enjoy my art. There is no need to tell me where it belongs.

This concludes my short rant.

CHEERS 

~ChrisSoWorthy

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PiperSticker
Level 18
Journeyman Dragonborn
September 30, 2012, 3:06 pm

I don't want to cause anything but, it says you can only upload Minecraft related stuff.
Couldn't you get banned for that stuff?
You could make a DA and post all of it on that and it links with PMC :D

ChrisSoWorthy
Level 27
Expert Artist
October 1, 2012, 11:30 am

where does it even say that? and cyprezz himself even agrees with me.

PiperSticker
Level 18
Journeyman Dragonborn
October 1, 2012, 1:07 pm

In the rules .-.

PiperSticker
Level 18
Journeyman Dragonborn
October 1, 2012, 1:22 pm

OH wait never mind.I read the "Anything which isn't a build in Minecraft."
From the projects post.Sorry :p

Avalanche_Ali
Site Moderator
Level 67
High Grandmaster Architect
June 1, 2012, 11:14 am

this reminded me soo badly that i need to upload some drawings to PMC. thanks!

in all fairness though, i think that all drawings should at least be minecraft or PMC related

LuisGoldacre
Site Moderator
Level 44
Master Pokemon
June 2, 2012, 9:55 pm

If everything in blogs was minecraft related we would lose at least 40% of our blogs

[+]_DR34M_[+]
Level 16
Journeyman Dragonborn
June 11, 2012, 12:18 am

@LuisGoldacre I though too cause it's going to be awful to put the hardwork doing these drawings and coloring it just for it too be deleted again?!? Oh, Come on why don't they just understand?

Oxolot1337
Level 1
New Explorer
June 1, 2012, 9:19 am

Earned that diamond

julianf007
Level 20
Expert Dragon
June 1, 2012, 6:16 am

1 Diamond for you!

Elopix
Level 23
Expert Skinner
June 1, 2012, 5:11 am

I think it isn't really bad to draw on PlanetMinecraft but than I think there must be draws of minecraft.
On the other side, I disagree with myself.

Palaeos
Site Moderator
Level 40
Master Turtle
June 1, 2012, 5:10 am

3 sections of the site do not have to have anything to do with minecraft. Chat, the everything else section of the forums, and blogs. Most talk of minecraft itself on this site is just advertisements or server related anyways. Keep up the art, as that's a form of creativity and lets face it, that's what minecraft is really about.

redblade
Level 8
Apprentice Toast
June 1, 2012, 4:51 am

CONGRATULATIONS YOU GOT THE FRONT PAGE!!!!

pigonge
Level 60
High Grandmaster Bunny
May 31, 2012, 11:35 pm

Apparently some drawings are not related minecraft in any ways. 
Not to offend you but your kakashi hatake drawing and masone23: D drawings are examples of that. Its not even related to anything on minecraft.


In your rant you say you drew some profile pictures for moderators. That is the whole different story. In that case you drew something to be used as profile picture but not to be released as some individual drawing project. In fact that drawing contributed to this group.


Its not planet miscellaneous projects. Its planet minecraft. I really think whatever we do has to be related to minecraft in some ways.

Charlizard
Site Moderator
Level 55
Grandmaster Unicorn
June 1, 2012, 3:05 am

http://www.planetminecraft.com/forums/general-discussion.html
?...

Blizz1
Level 25
Expert Pixel Painter
May 31, 2012, 11:34 pm

Chris!, You got on the front page! Well done.

sintin 80
Level 22
Expert Artist
May 31, 2012, 10:35 pm

some users dont understand that pmc is for the makeing and shering of all typs of things this menes art to

The GolemCrafter
Level 20
Expert Geek
May 31, 2012, 10:31 pm

I whole Heartedly Agree...

Elitecrafter
Level 13
Journeyman Robot
May 31, 2012, 8:22 pm

I have seen your drawing and there great. But as every1 else said this is planet minecraft for minecraft related things. Even though it is filled up with non minecraft things if people start accepting art then next will be call of duty and then halo until eventully this just becomes Planet. So Im not asking you to stop posting art im just asking you to stop complaining when people who come for minecraft get art.

~Elite

ChrisSoWorthy
Level 27
Expert Artist
May 31, 2012, 8:33 pm

im only complaining on what they post and send in pms.

SakuraKittyy
Level 33
Artisan Artist
June 1, 2012, 1:25 am

They recently added an ignore list, so if there's people that are constantly bothering you, you can add them there and they wont be able to send anymore pms or comments;its in your 'my account' and to the left side. ^.^

Elitecrafter
Level 13
Journeyman Robot
May 31, 2012, 8:37 pm

well if the comments are rude or bad you can report them? no dam well there pmc another place for a report button 

LilMessangerBoy
Level 4
Apprentice Skinner
May 31, 2012, 7:05 pm

Hey I forgot the name of this site... Uhh planet.... Mine..... Yeah minecraft. Music tv(MTV) used to be good when it showed music. I don't want the same thing happening to this.

ChrisSoWorthy
Level 27
Expert Artist
May 31, 2012, 7:43 pm

yeah i did too... what was it.. Planet.. Bronie? no no no thats not it.. it was... oh yeah! PlanetProgrammingAndYoutubeBackgroundsAndBronieKingdomWithAPinchOfMincraftButEveryonePicksOnTheDrawings

LiamCraft
Level 34
Artisan Nerd
May 31, 2012, 5:43 pm

get on devian art. PMC isnt for drawings, unless they are minecraft related

bmyblake
Level 30
Artisan Herobrine
May 31, 2012, 5:23 pm

this is pmc umm, move on bugger go find a art website with someones who cares, normaly im not this aggravated toward drawers but someone finally made a rant to complanin about it? move on moron, people don't want drawings un-relative to minecraft unless its perverted Annime and that doenst belong

ChrisSoWorthy
Level 27
Expert Artist
May 31, 2012, 5:52 pm

i'm sorry, did i upset you? if you don't like it, that's fine. but not once did i ever use that kind of insulting language towards you or anyone else.

storywolf
Level 16
Journeyman Dragonborn
May 31, 2012, 4:10 pm

Truth betold it's not minecraft IT DOESNT BELONG but doyou care no should you care no. Thats my opinion and you are entitled to yours. So if thats how you minecraft thats how you minecraft If it was wrong it would've been taken down. So have fun

Namore77
Level 33
Artisan Droid
May 31, 2012, 4:09 pm

I love the sketchs on pmc btw diamond/sub to you you sketch all of my favorite anime's and your picture is my favorite anime of all :D

Ploopyandproud
Level 29
Expert Blockhead
May 31, 2012, 4:02 pm

It doesn't matter. This site isnt only just for minecraft.

KirbyMaster555
Level 33
Artisan Toast
May 31, 2012, 3:36 pm

This is BULLCRAP! I can't believe that they would say stuff like that! If they REALLY hate it that much, then they should make a new section like "Fanart", at least for the blogs.

Hnybnny
Level 34
Artisan Dragon
May 31, 2012, 1:32 pm

OH DEAR SWEET MUTHA OF NOTCH. Chris, you got 40 FREAKIN DIAMONDS. And ur now 3 levels higher! I make amazing rants and i dont get this much attention D:

ChrisSoWorthy
Level 27
Expert Artist
May 31, 2012, 5:08 pm

i THink its gone out of hand!   :O

Ohschis
Level 17
Journeyman Spelunker
May 31, 2012, 7:58 pm

As I said.


Attention, diamonds, etc.
(Only purpose of this rant.)

ChrisSoWorthy
Level 27
Expert Artist
May 31, 2012, 8:11 pm

yeah im never making a rant again..

Magic_Zombies
Level 13
Journeyman Mage
May 31, 2012, 1:10 pm

who cares ignore the haters

Maxgamer560
Level 23
Expert Modder
May 31, 2012, 12:06 pm

Wait a second...making skins is art isn't it? So why are we allowed to make skins? It is basically drawing.

technoanimate100
Level 45
Master Cowboy
May 31, 2012, 11:46 am

lol yeh it still doesn't belong on PMC, it belongs on deviant art or some other art themed posting website. PMC is for minecraft, plain and simple. Mods allow it, do I agree? No. 

NinjaMagii
Level 24
Expert Miner
May 31, 2012, 4:08 pm

One thing to say plain and simple. This site has grown to be a site where people who live on "Planet Minecraft" come to join together to talk, laugh, and just have fun! This site has grown past just everything Minecraft because Minecraft related things can get boring. People now share everything on this site and MOST of it is either on the forums in the area where it BELONGS or it's in projects where things that people are working go. So just leave it all alone and just search the site to see how its grown.


-hary4572

Wet_Willy
Level 24
Expert Nerd
May 31, 2012, 12:10 pm

Look at it this way. Skinning and texture packs are art, right?
And they're allowed on this site without critics saying they should go away.
Why should actual drawings be turned away.
Art is art, mate. It all deserves a place to be viewed and who are you to say that PMC isn't the place for all art to be enjoyed? Does it hurt you that it's on this site. No. Not at all.

technoanimate100
Level 45
Master Cowboy
May 31, 2012, 1:15 pm

Minecraft related art is fine. Its absurd in my opinion to allow all art, PMC isn't for that. Posting your art doesn't hurt me either, I never said it did, I just disagree with it being on PMC if it isn't related or doesnt reference Minecraft. 
It's like going on Reddit and submitting a link to a subreddit that isn't related. For example submitting a link to a news article reporting a murder in the 'funny' subreddit. Mods might allow it, but that doesn't make it right. 

Wet_Willy
Level 24
Expert Nerd
May 31, 2012, 2:19 pm

This has nothing to do with murder in a 'funny section.'
This is art. In a site based around a specific game. Though it's not Minecraft related. It's still art in a site that bases a lot of it's items around art. This site was made for Minecraft fans, and why should a Minecraft fan not be allowed to show his drawings to fellow Minecraft fans?
Drawings can be anything on this site. It just shows the variety of talents in our community. We should appreciate the variety this site continues to hand us in people's submissions. Not disagree with it and tell it to go somewhere else.

Top_Secret_Name
Level 28
Expert Electrician
May 31, 2012, 11:18 am

I agree mate, I draw alot for this site and I hate to see people hating on drawings. I just haven't seen it on mine though.

jzpelaez
Level 3
Apprentice Engineer
May 31, 2012, 10:49 am

Im sort of with you I mean people should nto criticize any one! I mean it's what the maker thinks not the other people so I AGREE F*** THOSE CRITICS

SquishyZaUltra
Level 38
Artisan Turtle
May 31, 2012, 7:25 am

I'm SO with you! I've seen it on my art and I deleted it right away. I hate it when people criticize me with the fact that it isn't DA and it doesn't belong here! Well, Minecraft is about creativity, right? So just think about it this way--drawing IS creativity so why shouldn't it be on PMC? And sometimes I draw people's Minecraft Avatars, (Yep, I take drawing requests,) so what's the big deal!? I mean, come on!
I highly admire this rant. Thanks for putting it up. ^w^

-Squishy <3
P.S. 37th diamond! ^w^

Animatrix
Site Moderator
Level 8
Apprentice Goblin
May 31, 2012, 7:00 am

Of course we shouldn't stop. It's creativity, and if it wasn't allowed, there wouldn't be a forum section for it. Come to think of it, pretty much every submission posted is creativity of some form. Stories? Creativity. Poems? Creativity. MC Builds? Creativity. Why single out people that draw? My guess is ignorance, but hey, whatchagonna do?

ChrisSoWorthy
Level 27
Expert Artist
May 31, 2012, 7:54 am

Haters. Gonna. Hate.


Yup. but most people here are giving great sudgestions that we have a blog section for other art. like if we had a "fan-art blog section or if we has a " off-topic " art blog. either would be great because it would only be us blogging, out of everyones way and such. i would love to see that happen

Animatrix
Site Moderator
Level 8
Apprentice Goblin
May 31, 2012, 8:07 am

Hmm, yea. Although I don't see the problem with it now, it's just the haters. The forums have an "everything else" section for, well, everything else. Not many people disagre with that, so why should people attack the blogs section instead?

But yea. Maybe an off-topic section for art might be a good idea. Personally, I suck at art. So who am I to say what can and cannot be done?

ILoveDogs187
Level 1
New Miner
May 31, 2012, 6:53 am

Well do you know why people don't like art anymore? ITS OVERUSED! I'm no artist but I have seen better art then what I see on Planet Minecraft. All the art anyway is stupid ponies or anime nothing oringinal. 

t3h0nly1
Level 45
Master Nether Knight
May 31, 2012, 4:57 am

Its the same as saying as Bronies are not appropriate here!
In the forums, there's a Fan Art & Creativity section for a reason.
Whats the use of that if people aren't allowed to post their personal art here.

But of course we should be aware of our limits.
posting occasionally is quite fine but if we get too carried away it might end up in a different thing.

xAudaa
Retired Moderator
Level 31
Artisan Miner
May 31, 2012, 3:40 am

I think it's very unfair that people ridicule the art that we post. Let me ask you, if this is a Minecraft only site, then why are there bronies everywhere? What does MLP have to do with Minecraft? Nothing. So why be biast and attack the artists. Not to mention the fact that under blog options it says "Art" and not "Minecraft Art". 
The fact that Cyprezz himself commented on here saying that he supports Art on the site means that it's allowed. Im pretty sure when it comes down to site rules and regulations Cyprezz would know better than anyone else. People are just being jealous. You have to realise that there are sections on the site that allow people to post what they want, eg the Everything Else forum topic. I dont see [many] people attacking others who post on there. Same applies to the Art section, it doesnt specify under the rules on posting in there that it has to be Minecraft Art. 
Just stop arguing. You've lost, your point is invalid. Art is allowed on the site.

Ohschis
Level 17
Journeyman Spelunker
May 31, 2012, 5:58 am

You know, you can always hide behind the admins opinion.
And, bronies: Dont even get us started on that.
Jealous? There might be some of the rest who are actually jealous, but, the problem is, that you cant even get started on ponies and what not childish stuff.
If you say something against ponies, suddenly, everyone hates and bla.
People that cant draw enough attention from projects or art posts in the Everything Else section on the forums start to post in the blogs section, Ofc it gets more attention there.


Oh, and by the way, your finish was pretty bad, I thought you might be arguing good, but jeah, I see where this is going.

ChrisSoWorthy
Level 27
Expert Artist
May 31, 2012, 7:56 am

most people here are giving great sudgestions that we have a blog section for other art. like if we had a "fan-art blog section or if we has a " off-topic " art blog. either would be great because it would only be us blogging, out of everyone's way and such. i would love to see that happen. What do you think?

xAudaa
Retired Moderator
Level 31
Artisan Miner
May 31, 2012, 6:25 am

Hmph. im not hiding behind the admins option, simply letting you know what the Administrator of the site believes. People keep on saying that this is a Minecraft only site, but the way they say it is as if they own the site, and that they know what the site is all about. Im pretty sure that the Admin of the site would know what's allowed. That is one of the points i was trying to convey. People cannot argue that Art is not allowed when the Admin of the site allows it. It's just like your parents tell you that you are not allowed to host parties in *their* house, yet you say: "Oh no, im allowed to host a party". You have no say in what doesn't belong to you. You can give suggestions, but you cant go on and create your own rules.

Steelroads
Level 26
Expert Unicorn
May 31, 2012, 2:19 am

Maybe it's not a question of where it "belongs" but a question of where it is tolerated and fits the purpose of the website. Lets see here, lets explore our options. On one hand we have a website dedicated to Minecraft builds, Minecraft skins and Minecraft servers (Planet Minecraft). Or a site dedicated to every art related, user created image. Whether it be hand drawn, CGI or created with any other medium (Deviant Art). It seems pretty obvious which site I would personally choose to post my art work on. Deviant Art.

Moderators are only endorsing your art because it benefits them. They get a custom profile picture and you get the good feeling inside that you now have brownie points with a mod (yes I am saying the mods are in the wrong). As for the rest of your fan base, I put it down to this; if someone is scrolling down the page and they stumble across a picture they think is particularly interesting and out of the ordinary, of course they are going to have a look at it. It's something they were not expecting while browsing a site like this.  Maybe they think it's so good they'll go as far as to subscribe to you.

I won't hesitate to say your work is of a high standard and is visually stimulating. Of course it is, most art is! We all like art! But is PMC a place for people who enjoy art to share and browse art? No. It is a place to share and browse Minecraft related creations.

Saying things like "but we don't care" seems awfully arrogant. If people don't like and don't desire what you're creating (apart from the idiots that come to PMC to view completely unrelated content) and are openly telling you it does not belong here (for example, me) perhaps you should seriously question your motives for posting it in the first place.

If you're looking for people to compliment your work, use and share your work and just generally admire it, you truly would be better off posting it on a site dedicated to that sort of thing. For example DEVIANT ART.

Edit:

In addition to this, if you were a dancer, and went to a dance related website you wouldn't expect to see post after post after post of completely unrelated content for example posts on cooking and various recipes. I'm sure you would get rather frustrated having to constantly sift through posts to sort the related content from the unrelated, unwanted content.

One of the first things you would do is ask a mod why it was being allowed and inform him off what a hindrance it is. If he/she were to say to me something along the lines of "Well, sorry to break it to you, but we don't care" you would be quite upset and you would most likely leave the site, never to return. By mods encouraging these unrelated art posts, they're basically telling everyone "we don't care"

Well, there's a fitting answer. I encourage you to reply.

ChrisSoWorthy
Level 27
Expert Artist
May 31, 2012, 8:05 am

most people here are giving great sudgestions that we have a blog section for other art. like if we had a "fan-art blog section or if we has a " off-topic " art blog. either would be great because it would only be us blogging, out of everyones way and such. i would love to see that happen
sorry i copied that after i typed it elsewhere. I've replied to so many weird topics that my hands are dying. anyways, yes i get that its not really belonging on the site... we know when we post that we'll get haters and such. 
i do have a deviant art, but the thing i hated about it is that you only get a "thumbs up" which is like... cool... what does that do?
the reason i  post here is because people are like... woah! and you get this appriciation that someone outthere likes it. and then they post like... this could do with more shadows, more hair lines, more blah blah blah.
also, unlike deviant art, this has a friendly community of people who love the same things but yet love to find more. some people here post stories. and there great, like Animatrix. or people post other skins, like Lycandar. or art, like me.
i enjoy posting art, but its nt all i do. its been stuck in my head that this is a minecraft site, over and over again, i gave skinning a try. im not too bad, but i do post art again sometimes to just let people see what i can do.
i dont know if this answered anything, but if it didnt. please reply back
CHEERS
~chrissoworthy

Ohschis
Level 17
Journeyman Spelunker
May 31, 2012, 8:11 am

Thats because, without trying to hurt someone here, we are just amateurs in drawing, Including me.
Thats why they are going like "woha, dude, thats freaking awesome". On deviantart, there are real Artists, that do their job for living.
I have a profile there too, look at my pageviews per day if you want, or even comments. They are pending between 1 comment per deviation, if lucky, and about 6 pageviews per day.


But thats not a reason for me to get a good feeling here, instead improve, to get noticed.


Nuff said.

Ohschis
Level 17
Journeyman Spelunker
May 31, 2012, 6:00 am

:thumbsup:

xXSniperzzXx_SD
Level 34
Artisan Lava Rider
May 31, 2012, 2:53 am

This is longer then the actual rant lol

Ohschis
Level 17
Journeyman Spelunker
May 31, 2012, 2:14 am

Dear ChrisSoWorthy,


Here is what I have to say to that:
Listen close now, this is not ment to be offending, I am just telling you what I think.


Ok, first of, this is not an ArtBlog or whatelse. Art belongs to DeviantArt, or any other site that has Art in any way as the primary target to be looked at.


I respect People for their Art, I have 3 of them on my Profile, too. 
This art is user related, that means, I dont post pictures of kakashi or who else here. 
But People start more and more to post their sketches from anywhere here, and tell as an excuse that Its not noted somewhere in the Rules to not do so.


Well, thats ok, But people like you, who post a blog about "Well, we are going to post art anyways, Haters gonna Hate" Are just attention seekers and people who want to say something that is not nessesary. 


That is all I have to say to you, if you say your opinion, I say mine too.

Grunt
Level 7
Apprentice Narwhal
May 31, 2012, 2:26 am

I think you won this discussion. Well played.

Doggle
Level 25
Expert Nerd
May 31, 2012, 1:40 am

I don't perticulary like making art myself I like seeing other artworks, especially from people like you who aren't doing it for money or that but for fun.  I like how people make anamations and that but sometimes I just hate how I go to the projects pop reel and find art and that.  I wanna see custom maps, terrain and builds people make.  They should put them in blogs or pmc should make a new section.  But you sorts of people stil make great work.

agentpeter
Level 73
Legendary Ghast Rider
May 30, 2012, 11:56 pm

we should have a own section for off topic drawings

Scolez
Level 35
Artisan Vampire
May 30, 2012, 11:02 pm

Well people come to Planet MINECRAFT to look at MINECRAFT stuff, not drawings. I dont really care, and you are good. kthxbai

middy_the_waffle
Level 4
Apprentice Artist
May 30, 2012, 6:44 pm

true, if people can mind their OWN business, then GET OF THE INTERNET!

htrevor14
Level 15
Journeyman Artist
May 30, 2012, 5:28 pm

I agree with you completely.
People don't understand or respect the fact that some people spend LOT'S of time on art. It's really ignorant and cruel to simply tell a person where it belongs.

Also for all the people that say where art belongs, have you ever seen the blogs that some people make? They don't even put that much time into those and yet all of the art haters don't tell them where it belongs.

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