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Gaming build, what you think
deathcrest5
Hello, so i want to get a good mid range gaming pc that can run games like minecraft bf4, team fortress an other at a high good-high setting wijth put any issues. I als o had found this build. What do you think
Ps. I want to build it
http://www.custompcreview.com/computer- ... 014/21620/
Ps. I want to build it
http://www.custompcreview.com/computer- ... 014/21620/
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And monitors without the bazel is my endgamegoal
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Yeah this pc will be the base of the later ones when i would need to upgrade so in a few years ill get new components
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having more VRam then you need doesn't help.
And having two cards doesn't add more usable vRam because the data on both cards has to be the same.
You don't need a second GPU for another monitor.
And having two cards doesn't add more usable vRam because the data on both cards has to be the same.
You don't need a second GPU for another monitor.
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Usually, you don't. But it you want to go even further to 3-4 monitors, you do.
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I havent bought it yet as i just need to get the last bit of money, i will get 1 monitor then the other one will come later
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If so, good. You can always buy the second video card when you get the second monitor though.
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Would the second gpu be neccesary though?
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Not necessary, because AMD GPUs have a lot of VRAM. But expect a small FPS loss because of 1 GPU for 2 monitors.
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Like 5 fps or 20-25?
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Depends on what you do on the other monitor. If just basic things (web browsing etc) 5-10 FPS. If gaming/rendering on both at the same time, 20-25 FPS.
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Get the XFX r9 290. The ASUS cooler, while still being a good cooler, was designed for Nvidia GPUs and thus isn't as effective as some other models.
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I'll link you a build that is a bit cheaper than Shady's, and it's got no issues with updating the BIOS, which can be a tricky thing and may turn your motherboard into a paperweight if you choose the wrong one.
I changed the Wi-Fi adapter, which is good because it frees up a USB slot. I also got rid of one of the 290s - you won't really need crossfired ones on a single monitor, especially if it's 1080p or lower. I also changed the CPU. It's a little slower, but it's cheaper and avoids the issues of the BIOS update. Hopefully that helps!
Build
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€187.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Performance ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€90.43 @ Hardwareversand)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€74.97 @ Hardwareversand)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive (€70.78 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290 4GB DirectCU II Video Card (€392.80 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: NZXT Phantom ATX Full Tower Case (€139.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€94.90 @ Caseking)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer (€60.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN781ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (€12.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 - UK Layout Wired Standard Keyboard (€29.36 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1154.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-24 16:03 CEST+0200
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€187.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Performance ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€90.43 @ Hardwareversand)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€74.97 @ Hardwareversand)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive (€70.78 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290 4GB DirectCU II Video Card (€392.80 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: NZXT Phantom ATX Full Tower Case (€139.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€94.90 @ Caseking)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer (€60.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN781ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (€12.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 - UK Layout Wired Standard Keyboard (€29.36 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1154.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-24 16:03 CEST+0200
I changed the Wi-Fi adapter, which is good because it frees up a USB slot. I also got rid of one of the 290s - you won't really need crossfired ones on a single monitor, especially if it's 1080p or lower. I also changed the CPU. It's a little slower, but it's cheaper and avoids the issues of the BIOS update. Hopefully that helps!
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I already told him that he needs 2 monitors for my build to work good. Also, I think he already bought it.
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Wtfshady i realised that there is a problem witht the bios for the cpu, will that be a major problem or can it be fixed easily
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The BIOS update? Nah, it isn't anything big. Check out this and this.
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A .1 makes all the difference
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If you want a normal gaming/development PC, DO NOT EVER PICK WINDOWS 8. You will have an incredibly hard time doing anything. WIndows 7 64bit is your best pick for now.
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Windows 8 isn't worth it, while 8.1 is.
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I personally own a windows 8 computer and yeah the streamline qualities you see in windows 8 just aren't there, even I think so. I mean, yeah I do love it, but Windows 7 is still my favorite... On the other hand Windows 8.1 fixes this, it does it's absolute best to fix everything windows 8 had wrong with it, this includes not having windows media player (for what ever reason), also that annoying feature that you can't find the fricken' power button on any menu unless you go to start swipe across the right hand side, then click settings, THEN you can see it...
Point being: Windows 8 sucks so much, I'd rather use XP, however, simply go to the store on your windows 8, and get the free update to Windows 8.1, VERY much worth it..
(Also, windows 8(.1) lets you get just about all of the Windows phone apps for your desktop, so that's a plus.)
Point being: Windows 8 sucks so much, I'd rather use XP, however, simply go to the store on your windows 8, and get the free update to Windows 8.1, VERY much worth it..
(Also, windows 8(.1) lets you get just about all of the Windows phone apps for your desktop, so that's a plus.)
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Ok i decided, i am going for wtfshadies build, and it will come much cheaper since i dont need to pay vat it goes down like €200-300 cheaper, thanks for all your help
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Well, for that price, you can get 2 monitors (or another 1 if you already have 1).
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Here you go:
[PCPartPicker part list](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/NR9P8d) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/NR9P8d/by_merchant/)
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690) | €195.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
**CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler- ... 212e20pkr2) | €31.63 @ Amazon Deutschland
**Motherboard** | [Asus H87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-h87pro) | €96.95 @ Hardwareversand
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair ... 3m3a1600c9) | €124.78 @ Amazon Deutschland
**Storage** | [Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung ... mz7te250bw) | €106.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/western ... e-wd10ezex) | €50.39 @ Pixmania DE
**Video Card** | [PowerColor Radeon R9 290X 4GB Video Card](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/powerco ... gbd5mdhgoc) | €481.84 @ Hardwareversand
**Case** | [NZXT Phantom (White/Red) ATX Full Tower Case](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-phan003rd) | €150.78 @ Hardwareversand
**Power Supply** | [Enermax NAXN ADV. 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/enermax ... -etl650awt) | €74.19 @ Amazon Deutschland
**Optical Drive** | [Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/lite-on ... ihas124-04) | €16.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
**Wireless Network Adapter** | [Intel 7260HMWDTX1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-w ... 260hmwdtx1) | €54.73 @ Amazon Deutschland
**Keyboard** | [SteelSeries 6Gv2 Wired Standard Keyboard](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/steelse ... oard-64225) | €88.70 @ Amazon Deutschland
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | €1472.79
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-20 13:06 CEST+0200 |
[PCPartPicker part list](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/NR9P8d) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/NR9P8d/by_merchant/)
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690) | €195.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
**CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler- ... 212e20pkr2) | €31.63 @ Amazon Deutschland
**Motherboard** | [Asus H87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-h87pro) | €96.95 @ Hardwareversand
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair ... 3m3a1600c9) | €124.78 @ Amazon Deutschland
**Storage** | [Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung ... mz7te250bw) | €106.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/western ... e-wd10ezex) | €50.39 @ Pixmania DE
**Video Card** | [PowerColor Radeon R9 290X 4GB Video Card](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/powerco ... gbd5mdhgoc) | €481.84 @ Hardwareversand
**Case** | [NZXT Phantom (White/Red) ATX Full Tower Case](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-phan003rd) | €150.78 @ Hardwareversand
**Power Supply** | [Enermax NAXN ADV. 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/enermax ... -etl650awt) | €74.19 @ Amazon Deutschland
**Optical Drive** | [Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/lite-on ... ihas124-04) | €16.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
**Wireless Network Adapter** | [Intel 7260HMWDTX1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-w ... 260hmwdtx1) | €54.73 @ Amazon Deutschland
**Keyboard** | [SteelSeries 6Gv2 Wired Standard Keyboard](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/steelse ... oard-64225) | €88.70 @ Amazon Deutschland
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | €1472.79
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-20 13:06 CEST+0200 |
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That build is overpriced.
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You can get a H97 motherboard for that much money. You don't need 12GB of RAM. 8 is enough. With the money get the motherboard. You can go for a cheaper case. The Wireless Network Adapter is overpriced. So is the keyboard. With the money you can save from these things, you can go for a 80+ Silver or even gold PSU.
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My turn to make a build for you!
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Id suggest using win 8
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Windows 8 is worse than 8.1 and it's not widely popular.
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Hence why im going for 8.1
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I was gonna get windows 8.1
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So, just to ask, what about cooling fans
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The case comes with a few fans in it already.
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You can buy aftermarket fans, but you don't need them if you aren't overclocking.
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I made some changes to WTFshady's build.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€187.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€71.40 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€69.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€56.86 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€50.39 @ Pixmania DE)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card (€386.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case (€119.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€59.90 @ Caseking)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (€15.29 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (€14.18 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1032.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-19 14:44 CEST+0200
-The 4690 might need a BIOS update to work with the mobo so I went with the 4670 to avoid that.
-Cheaper mobo that will be fine for you.
-Cheaper RAM.
-A SSHD is a HDD with a small SSD used for cache. It loads commonly used files in the cache to help increase speed. However, a HDD plus a SSD is far superior and your budget more than allows it. This way you can put your OS and some games with a lot of loading screens on the SSD to decrease boot and load times and put other files on the HDD.
-Crossfire 290s is very overkill for you needs. That is for 1440p/4k/triple 1080p monitor setups. Honestly, you would probably be fine with a 280x is BF4 is the most intense game you will play.
-The Phantom 530 is cheaper and will still be fine. However, you don't need a full tower case. a Phantom 410 would be more than enough.
-A 750 watt PSU is overkill for a single GPU.
-Cheaper optical drive since you never stated that you needed blu-ray.
-Better wifi.
At this budget you should get a mechanical keyboard.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (€187.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€71.40 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€69.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€56.86 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€50.39 @ Pixmania DE)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card (€386.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case (€119.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€59.90 @ Caseking)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (€15.29 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (€14.18 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1032.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-19 14:44 CEST+0200
-The 4690 might need a BIOS update to work with the mobo so I went with the 4670 to avoid that.
-Cheaper mobo that will be fine for you.
-Cheaper RAM.
-A SSHD is a HDD with a small SSD used for cache. It loads commonly used files in the cache to help increase speed. However, a HDD plus a SSD is far superior and your budget more than allows it. This way you can put your OS and some games with a lot of loading screens on the SSD to decrease boot and load times and put other files on the HDD.
-Crossfire 290s is very overkill for you needs. That is for 1440p/4k/triple 1080p monitor setups. Honestly, you would probably be fine with a 280x is BF4 is the most intense game you will play.
-The Phantom 530 is cheaper and will still be fine. However, you don't need a full tower case. a Phantom 410 would be more than enough.
-A 750 watt PSU is overkill for a single GPU.
-Cheaper optical drive since you never stated that you needed blu-ray.
-Better wifi.
At this budget you should get a mechanical keyboard.
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Yeah, some. So, you either go for my color scheme and overkill build or with this.
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Thanks shady for the build
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No problem, I hope you like it.
I also edited the build, so you might want to check it out now.
I also edited the build, so you might want to check it out now.
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can you send me the link please, edit ignore i found it
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Sounds nice!
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€195.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Performance ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€90.43 @ Hardwareversand)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€74.97 @ Hardwareversand)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive (€70.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: 2x XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card (€386.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: NZXT Phantom ATX Full Tower Case (€139.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€95.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer (€60.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN722N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter (€10.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 - UK Layout Wired Standard Keyboard (€29.36 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1540.42
Everything in this build is from Germany. If you decide to get this build, then everything will be shipped from Germany. Also I went with a red/black color scheme in this build, so if your mouse is either black or red, that would be cool.
*EDIT*: Added another 290 for 2-Way-Crossfire. You might want to get 2 monitors.
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€195.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Performance ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€90.43 @ Hardwareversand)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€74.97 @ Hardwareversand)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive (€70.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: 2x XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card (€386.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: NZXT Phantom ATX Full Tower Case (€139.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€95.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer (€60.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN722N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter (€10.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 - UK Layout Wired Standard Keyboard (€29.36 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1540.42
Everything in this build is from Germany. If you decide to get this build, then everything will be shipped from Germany. Also I went with a red/black color scheme in this build, so if your mouse is either black or red, that would be cool.
*EDIT*: Added another 290 for 2-Way-Crossfire. You might want to get 2 monitors.
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What is this computer going to be used for?
Mostly coding, playing games i mentioned above, and unity developement
What is your budget?
€1500
Where do you live? If in the US, do you have a nearby Microcenter?
I live in malta but since things are more expensive here ill get things online, no microcenters or just bad
What is included in the budget?
Tower and some speakers (but i will get them after) and keyboard
Will you be overclocking?
No i wont
Will you be reusing any parts?
No i dont have anything except for mouse and headphones, but i dont think those count
What OS do you want?
Windows 8.1 64 bit. i dont have it
Any specific case preferences?
An nztx phantom case would be prefered
Full sized tower
Any other special features that you want in the build?
SSHD(as a main disk if possible, if not leave it out), wifi would be helpfull
Mostly coding, playing games i mentioned above, and unity developement
What is your budget?
€1500
Where do you live? If in the US, do you have a nearby Microcenter?
I live in malta but since things are more expensive here ill get things online, no microcenters or just bad
What is included in the budget?
Tower and some speakers (but i will get them after) and keyboard
Will you be overclocking?
No i wont
Will you be reusing any parts?
No i dont have anything except for mouse and headphones, but i dont think those count
What OS do you want?
Windows 8.1 64 bit. i dont have it
Any specific case preferences?
An nztx phantom case would be prefered
Full sized tower
Any other special features that you want in the build?
SSHD(as a main disk if possible, if not leave it out), wifi would be helpfull
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Why SSHD and not HDD and SSD?
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I dunno, i never had it plus i want to have a good speed and reliability while keeping things cheap
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Ok then.
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But the thing is the aliens and lights are soooo sexyy!
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If it was available i would get the christine
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They're better than Alienware, but building a PC is better.
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Please answer these questions
What is this computer going to be used for?
List what you will be doing with your computer.
What is your budget?
Include amount and currency.
Where do you live? If in the US, do you have a nearby Microcenter?
Your country lets us know what sites you can order from. If you have a nearby Microcenter they have some great in-store only deals that you can take advantage of.
What is included in the budget?
Things like the tower, the OS, peripherals and monitors.
Will you be overclocking?
Overclocking will require different hardware than a non-overclocking build so we need to know this.
Will you be reusing any parts?
If you are reusing parts list them here.
What OS do you want?
Say which OS you want or say if you already have a copy of one.
Any specific case preferences?
Size, color, etc.
Any other special features that you want in the build?
Stuff like an SSD, large hard drive, RAID, and wifi
What is this computer going to be used for?
List what you will be doing with your computer.
What is your budget?
Include amount and currency.
Where do you live? If in the US, do you have a nearby Microcenter?
Your country lets us know what sites you can order from. If you have a nearby Microcenter they have some great in-store only deals that you can take advantage of.
What is included in the budget?
Things like the tower, the OS, peripherals and monitors.
Will you be overclocking?
Overclocking will require different hardware than a non-overclocking build so we need to know this.
Will you be reusing any parts?
If you are reusing parts list them here.
What OS do you want?
Say which OS you want or say if you already have a copy of one.
Any specific case preferences?
Size, color, etc.
Any other special features that you want in the build?
Stuff like an SSD, large hard drive, RAID, and wifi
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