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I seek them specs
Hullo, Minecraft community. I come bearing questions on building a custom gaming laptop *heartily chuckles*. So, as some of you may relate to this, I've grown weary of having to stick with the 'lowest of low' in terms of graphic settings for some of the more recent and high-end games.
As a result of my impatience with the current laptop I have in my possession, I need help figuring out some specs for a new one (or at least replacement GPU's, motherboards, processors, etc.).
Preferably, I'd like it to be able to run games like Skyrim and Minecraft (eheh, look how original my game preferences are xP) at maximum settings (Minecraft with shaders). Price-wise, my budget is under 900 USD.
I'd like to be replacing my current laptop's parts, not building a whole new one. If it's possible, with my model (an HP Pavilion 17-e079nr) especially, I'd be really glad if someone could direct me to a tutorial on replacing parts (or be so kind as to explain it yourself, which would also be grand )
Help me, PMC. You're my only hope.
As a result of my impatience with the current laptop I have in my possession, I need help figuring out some specs for a new one (or at least replacement GPU's, motherboards, processors, etc.).
Preferably, I'd like it to be able to run games like Skyrim and Minecraft (eheh, look how original my game preferences are xP) at maximum settings (Minecraft with shaders). Price-wise, my budget is under 900 USD.
I'd like to be replacing my current laptop's parts, not building a whole new one. If it's possible, with my model (an HP Pavilion 17-e079nr) especially, I'd be really glad if someone could direct me to a tutorial on replacing parts (or be so kind as to explain it yourself, which would also be grand )
Help me, PMC. You're my only hope.
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KnobleKnivesKillertoadKnobleKnivesI replaced the GPU that I was gonna use in my build (an XFX 280x) with a 2GB MSI GTX 770 (no, I don't want to get the GTX 970 unless it goes down to the same price). The MSI may have less GB space, but it has a higher speed and what seems like more processing power.
Should I go with it?
No. 280x is faster.
You also can't compare each core clock to each GPU. A 290x at 700 is still way faster than a 660 at 1500 or so.
Ahhh, okay. Thanks for the help.
So, I'd go with a 280x. If you can spend a little more, then go with a 970, as it is close in performance to a 780. For a lot less.
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KillertoadKnobleKnivesI replaced the GPU that I was gonna use in my build (an XFX 280x) with a 2GB MSI GTX 770 (no, I don't want to get the GTX 970 unless it goes down to the same price). The MSI may have less GB space, but it has a higher speed and what seems like more processing power.
Should I go with it?
No. 280x is faster.
You also can't compare each core clock to each GPU. A 290x at 700 is still way faster than a 660 at 1500 or so.
Ahhh, okay. Thanks for the help.
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KnobleKnivesI replaced the GPU that I was gonna use in my build (an XFX 280x) with a 2GB MSI GTX 770 (no, I don't want to get the GTX 970 unless it goes down to the same price). The MSI may have less GB space, but it has a higher speed and what seems like more processing power.
Should I go with it?
No. 280x is faster.
You also can't compare each core clock to each GPU. A 290x at 700 is still way faster than a 660 at 1500 or so.
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It's very hard to customize a laptop, especially a gaming laptop. I think you're better off buying a fairly good laptop, or even ultrabook! There are many amazing laptops at great prices all around. Then you also get the warranty, service, etc. etc.
Everything could go wrong with trying to switch parts in a laptop. But that's just my reflection!
Good luck anyway
Everything could go wrong with trying to switch parts in a laptop. But that's just my reflection!
Good luck anyway
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Oh, no. Methinks you might be misunderstanding at this point. I decided a while ago that I'm gonna be building a desktop rather than spending twice as much on a laptop xP.
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Okay, so jumping back to this. I replaced the GPU that I was gonna use in my build (an XFX 280x) with a 2GB MSI GTX 770 (no, I don't want to get the GTX 970 unless it goes down to the same price). The MSI may have less GB space, but it has a higher speed and what seems like more processing power.
Should I go with it?
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video ... 70tf2gd5oc
The XFX:
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r9280xtdfd
Should I go with it?
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video ... 70tf2gd5oc
The XFX:
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r9280xtdfd
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It's fine, but I don't recommend it, because 280X usually performs better than 770.
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WTFshadyKnobleKnives
Last I checked, it was about $45.00.
Well, I guess you should go with SPEC-02 then.
Alrighty. Cool beans.
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KnobleKnives
Last I checked, it was about $45.00.
Well, I guess you should go with SPEC-02 then.
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WTFshadyKnobleKnivesAh, cool. The Spec-02 has good airflow too, apparently.
So far, for me, it's tied between the Rosewill Redbone and the Corsair Spec-02. From the pics I've seen, the Corsair has room to spare behind the mobo for cables to go. As for the redbone, its airflow is apparently pretty solid.
What's the price of Rosewill Redbone? If it's more than $40, don't get it. Also, You can always go with SPEC-01. It's the same price as SPEC-02 (I recommend SPEC-02 though).[/quote
Last I checked, it was about $45.00.
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Ah, cool. The Spec-02 has good airflow too, apparently.
So far, for me, it's tied between the Rosewill Redbone and the Corsair Spec-02. From the pics I've seen, the Corsair has room to spare behind the mobo for cables to go. As for the redbone, its airflow is apparently pretty solid.
So far, for me, it's tied between the Rosewill Redbone and the Corsair Spec-02. From the pics I've seen, the Corsair has room to spare behind the mobo for cables to go. As for the redbone, its airflow is apparently pretty solid.
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What's the price of Rosewill Redbone? If it's more than $40, don't get it. Also, You can always go with SPEC-01. It's the same price as SPEC-02 (I recommend SPEC-02 though).
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KnobleKnivesTheShadbusherKnobleKnivesOkayyyy, so I'm wondering, what would be an optimal case for ventilation/and lack of dust but still around $50 to $60?
Personally I'd recommend the Corsair SPEC-02 or SPEC-03.
I'll be getting a SPEC-03 myself soon.
Hmm, alrighty.
There's one here that I've been looking at recently:
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-s210e002
Having a mid-tower case, at least I think, would leave a great deal of room, so it wouldn't get too insulated inside.
That case is good, but I think you should go with Corsair SPEC-02. I've heard pretty good things about it. It's also better-looking that the one you have there already, if that matters to you.
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TheShadbusherKnobleKnivesOkayyyy, so I'm wondering, what would be an optimal case for ventilation/and lack of dust but still around $50 to $60?
Personally I'd recommend the Corsair SPEC-02 or SPEC-03.
I'll be getting a SPEC-03 myself soon.
Hmm, alrighty.
There's one here that I've been looking at recently:
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-s210e002
Having a mid-tower case, at least I think, would leave a great deal of room, so it wouldn't get too insulated inside.
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KnobleKnivesOkayyyy, so I'm wondering, what would be an optimal case for ventilation/and lack of dust but still around $50 to $60?
Personally I'd recommend the Corsair SPEC-02 or SPEC-03.
I'll be getting a SPEC-03 myself soon.
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Okayyyy, so I'm wondering, what would be an optimal Mini ITX case for ventilation/fitting all my pc components into/ lack of dust but still around $50 to $60?
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Okay, one more question. Will my build be upgradable? I have no doubt that I'll be wanting to upgrade parts in the somewhat distant future (maybe six or seven years, when my current parts become obsolete xD).
Le build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.97 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($102.77 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.24 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.14 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($209.88 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($37.05 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.75 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($91.81 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC e2050Swd 60Hz 19.5" Monitor ($93.58 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($10.38 @ B&H)
Total: $928.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-08 19:30 EDT-0400
Le build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.97 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($102.77 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.24 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.14 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($209.88 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($37.05 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.75 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($91.81 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC e2050Swd 60Hz 19.5" Monitor ($93.58 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard ($10.38 @ B&H)
Total: $928.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-08 19:30 EDT-0400
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By the time you'll need to upgrade, we will have different chipset's and all. This build will last you a good while though. But you can upgrade your CPU to broadwell when they come out. And DDR4 ram is not really gonna be worth the cost, as nothing really takes advantage of it, yet anyways.
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($223.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($97.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($34.79 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($29.99)
Monitor: Gateway KX2153 Abd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)
Total: $870.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-08 06:22 EDT-0400
This is the same build with a better GPU new prices. You still have $30 extra if the OS costs you more. If it doesn't. it's still a good amount of money to save. Tell us how much money the OS will cost and I can find something.
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($223.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($97.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($34.79 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($29.99)
Monitor: Gateway KX2153 Abd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)
Total: $870.18
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-08 06:22 EDT-0400
This is the same build with a better GPU new prices. You still have $30 extra if the OS costs you more. If it doesn't. it's still a good amount of money to save. Tell us how much money the OS will cost and I can find something.
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Oooooh....that'll do it xD. I'm probably gonna keep the Coolermaster CPU cooler because it's a good possibility that I'll be OCing the device at points. As for the keyboard, my dad has a gazillion keyboards and most of them are more recent Logitech builds. I'll just see of he had a spare . Thanks.
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The thing is that if you want to overclock, you'll need other hardware (A "k" series CPU and a Z97 motherboard). These will cost you more, so I think that you shouldn't OC, or at least save some more before you make an OC build.
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Hmm, okay. I'll try and remove the Coolermaster though, and that should help my price. I added a better rated RAM for about the same price as the currently out of stock Team Xtreem model and I think it's looking good to go.
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Yeah, better drop the CPU cooler. What RAM will you use? If it's G.Skill, Crucial, Corsair or A-Data you'll be fine.
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It's the G-Skill Ripjaws series, I believe.
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Hmm, yeah. I wasn't too sure of it to begin with xD. okey doke.
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Would it be wise for me to get a Windows 8 OEM at r/softwareswap? It'd cut down my overall price significantly.
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I think it will be better. Just be sure to not get scammed.
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You'd save alot of money, but it'd be safer to get it from a trusted place.
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Buying a key is just as safe. If the key doesn't work, PM the OP, and they'll give you another. I've bought 7+ keys off of it, and haven't had one single problem. Bought keys for Windows 7/8/8.1/8.1 Pro/office 2013.
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As much as I dote over the fact that I would cut down the price by about $50+, I'm immensely paranoid about third-party transactions such as that. I'm way more comfortable with buying it from a legitimate business site.
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"It's not far off in terms of gaming, with our low-end Batman: AC scores showing 155fps for the FX-6300 versus 164FPS for the stock-clocked i5-3570K.
by Tech Radar (Dec, 2012)
by Tech Radar (Dec, 2012)
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1. OP can fit in a i5 in the budget he has.
2. Why 1333 mHz Ram? Because for like less then a dollar more you can get 1600 mHz.
3. In new builds you should be getting windows 8 not 7.
4. That is a terrible case.
There is a lot more wrong with the build but i am too lazy to type all of them.
Well i thought it was a good idea.
2. Why 1333 mHz Ram? Because for like less then a dollar more you can get 1600 mHz.
3. In new builds you should be getting windows 8 not 7.
4. That is a terrible case.
There is a lot more wrong with the build but i am too lazy to type all of them.
Well i thought it was a good idea.
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i have a build put together with an r9 270x and an fx 6-core for $620
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($106.02 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($68.89 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 260 1GB Video Card ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Merc Beta (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: LG 20M35D-B 60Hz 19.5" Monitor ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($13.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $620.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-07 16:35 EDT-0400
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($106.02 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($68.89 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 260 1GB Video Card ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Merc Beta (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: LG 20M35D-B 60Hz 19.5" Monitor ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($13.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $620.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-07 16:35 EDT-0400
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1. OP can fit in a i5 in the budget he has.
2. Why 1333 mHz Ram? Because for like less then a dollar more you can get 1600 mHz.
3. In new builds you should be getting windows 8 not 7.
4. That is a terrible case.
There is a lot more wrong with the build but i am too lazy to type all of them.
2. Why 1333 mHz Ram? Because for like less then a dollar more you can get 1600 mHz.
3. In new builds you should be getting windows 8 not 7.
4. That is a terrible case.
There is a lot more wrong with the build but i am too lazy to type all of them.
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What about this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product
I've been somewhat obsessively looking for ways to cut down the price while keeping the same power that my current build has. I'm sorry if I'm asking too many questions
I've been somewhat obsessively looking for ways to cut down the price while keeping the same power that my current build has. I'm sorry if I'm asking too many questions
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Looks good. EVGA is a good brand and that is a good PSU. I think you should go with that, but don't go any lower. If you get Windows 8 from /r/softwareswap, then your cost goes down by quite a lot (around $50-$100). If that happens, you can get a better GPU.
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Hmm, alrighty.
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Replaced the XFX power supply ( http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-xfxts550w ) with this:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-p ... pstone450m
This cuts back on the price by about 20-30 dollars. Yes or no to this one?
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-p ... pstone450m
This cuts back on the price by about 20-30 dollars. Yes or no to this one?
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Never heard of it, but based upon reviews, I don't recommend it. It's big and noisy, so I recommend sticking with the XFX (plus it has more watts, so it'll be better if you plan to upgrade later on).
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I've ordered all of my computer parts and accessories like monitors, keyboard and mouse from newegg.com. They have the best prices.
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They're good, but I recommend Microcenter. They have some amazing deals sometimes.
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Would anybody be able to provide a link to a good tutorial on putting together a custom PC?
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Hmm, okay. Could you link me to one of those around the same price range?
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I changed your build up, because it wasn't exactly good... It needed some changes.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($97.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Club 3D Radeon R9 270X 2GB '14Series Video Card ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($42.87 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Gateway KX2153 Abd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($119.99 @ TigerDirect)
Total: $907.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-02 21:20 EDT-0400
Here is something that is cheaper, while being faster.
Dropped the "k" version of the CPU, because your motherboard won't overclock.
Dropped the fans, because your case comes with two of them already.
Bigger HDD for the same price.
Don't need a gold rated PSU, but this one is pretty good.
Could probably get a cheaper monitor, but I'm assuming you picked out this one for a reason.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($97.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Xtreem Dark Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Club 3D Radeon R9 270X 2GB '14Series Video Card ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($42.87 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Gateway KX2153 Abd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($119.99 @ TigerDirect)
Total: $907.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-02 21:20 EDT-0400
Here is something that is cheaper, while being faster.
Dropped the "k" version of the CPU, because your motherboard won't overclock.
Dropped the fans, because your case comes with two of them already.
Bigger HDD for the same price.
Don't need a gold rated PSU, but this one is pretty good.
Could probably get a cheaper monitor, but I'm assuming you picked out this one for a reason.
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Oh, wow! Thanks for those touch-ups .
Should I have a CPU cooler, on the occasions that I'm using it on decently hot days? Or no?
Should I have a CPU cooler, on the occasions that I'm using it on decently hot days? Or no?
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The stock cooler will be just fine.
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Alrighty. Thanks
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Alrighty, I've tweaked my build here and there. Glad with what I've got, but still open to suggestions. It should be able to run Minecraft at a more than comfortable FPS while running shaders, as well as running games like Skyrim and Crysis at high settings.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/KnobleKnives/saved/dWqPxr
I'll update with a new thread once I buy the parts and build it (it's gonna take few months more to save up the money, so I don't want to necro bump this thread).
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/KnobleKnives/saved/dWqPxr
I'll update with a new thread once I buy the parts and build it (it's gonna take few months more to save up the money, so I don't want to necro bump this thread).
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