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Before i get into this topic, a little note for any mods coming in here ready to lock.
I will be using an example in here. This example will be of my recent experience of admin abuse. NO NAMES will be used in my example out of respect for their privacy and the blacklist rule.
OK guys, so recently i was on one of my favorite PvP servers. Im just chilling and mining when i notice a server administrator was online. I talk to him for a bit. He seemed cool and funny, so i asked him if i could buy a new pick off of him. He said sure, and told me i had to pay 60$ ingame. I thought about it for a minute and asked him if i could buy some armor. He said sure, and said I'd need to pay 1500$ for the set, which was almost all of my money. I paid for it, he gave it, and i went back to mining. About 30 seconds later i open up my inv and notice that my armor was gone. I asked if the admin had given it and all he said was "....yup :3". The next thing i know, my tools disappear from my inventory and my balance is set to 0$. I instantly knew I had to get out of the server before he took things even further.
(I just finished submitting a report to the server owner of this incident for anyone interested... )
What happened to the servers that had good admins on it? All i can seem to find are servers where the admins have way too much power and are causing more problems than they are fixing.
If you have an incident to share or an opinion you may have about the current state of the minecraft server community and the effect that negative server administration has caused, please post below.
(PLEASE REMEMBER THE BLACK LIST RULE. I CREATED THIS THREAD FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY AND WOULD HATE TO SEE IT LOCKED BECAUSE SOMEONE DID NOT KNOW /FOLLOW THE RULES.)
I will be using an example in here. This example will be of my recent experience of admin abuse. NO NAMES will be used in my example out of respect for their privacy and the blacklist rule.
OK guys, so recently i was on one of my favorite PvP servers. Im just chilling and mining when i notice a server administrator was online. I talk to him for a bit. He seemed cool and funny, so i asked him if i could buy a new pick off of him. He said sure, and told me i had to pay 60$ ingame. I thought about it for a minute and asked him if i could buy some armor. He said sure, and said I'd need to pay 1500$ for the set, which was almost all of my money. I paid for it, he gave it, and i went back to mining. About 30 seconds later i open up my inv and notice that my armor was gone. I asked if the admin had given it and all he said was "....yup :3". The next thing i know, my tools disappear from my inventory and my balance is set to 0$. I instantly knew I had to get out of the server before he took things even further.
(I just finished submitting a report to the server owner of this incident for anyone interested... )
What happened to the servers that had good admins on it? All i can seem to find are servers where the admins have way too much power and are causing more problems than they are fixing.
If you have an incident to share or an opinion you may have about the current state of the minecraft server community and the effect that negative server administration has caused, please post below.
(PLEASE REMEMBER THE BLACK LIST RULE. I CREATED THIS THREAD FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY AND WOULD HATE TO SEE IT LOCKED BECAUSE SOMEONE DID NOT KNOW /FOLLOW THE RULES.)
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I have too much to say about this thread to summarize it efficiently in a single forum post. I'm also too exhausted to debate.
Just keep in mind, it's not a server admin's job to be polite and kind. It's their job to efficiently moderate players according to a set of rules, and carry a big, scary ban hammer.
That's not to say there aren't people unfit for the position... but...
Don't like the "unfair" rules of a certain server you don't pay for? You have every right to leave.
*EDIT: My server keeps track of chat and commands. We also have analytics for our site. Interesting statistics... 91% of players NEVER type "/rules". Our online rules page is also the least viewed, aside from our Terms of Service.
Then players have the audacity to claim they were banned for "no reason". Not an attack on OP's point. Most of this was vaguely off-topic, but still pertaining to the roles of server admins.
Just keep in mind, it's not a server admin's job to be polite and kind. It's their job to efficiently moderate players according to a set of rules, and carry a big, scary ban hammer.
That's not to say there aren't people unfit for the position... but...
Don't like the "unfair" rules of a certain server you don't pay for? You have every right to leave.
*EDIT: My server keeps track of chat and commands. We also have analytics for our site. Interesting statistics... 91% of players NEVER type "/rules". Our online rules page is also the least viewed, aside from our Terms of Service.
Then players have the audacity to claim they were banned for "no reason". Not an attack on OP's point. Most of this was vaguely off-topic, but still pertaining to the roles of server admins.
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Hope he gets removed of his admin rank. The owner didnt do a good job of selecting a good admin i see
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I am an owner of a server , and i had a LOT issues with admins and not only 10 year old admins , even 16-17 year old's . Once i went to check what was happening on my server, and one of the admins 1.Kicked all of the players 2.When the players got back on he erased their player data (aka their inventories were gone and their time ranks were also gone) 3.He banned couple of people for saying "PLEASE stop" AND on top of all that he griefed 70% of the towns created on the server. I had to deal with all of that only cause one stupid 16 year old trolled the server, The server went really empty since everyone went off and left the server :/ until i could get the backup/Player data.
Also i don't really believe in "all 10-11 year old's are crazy and immature". I have seen a lot of mature 10-11 year old's who wouldn't rage for stupid reasons(Even tho there are no reasons to rage on a game xD) .Once i had one 11 year old girl in staff who invited 20 people to the server.If she would've not been there the server would been down right now
Also i don't really believe in "all 10-11 year old's are crazy and immature". I have seen a lot of mature 10-11 year old's who wouldn't rage for stupid reasons(Even tho there are no reasons to rage on a game xD) .Once i had one 11 year old girl in staff who invited 20 people to the server.If she would've not been there the server would been down right now
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Yes some admins are assholes and are immature/corrupt. I have seen first hand but please for the love of god don't be rude to them or assume all admins are like that.
Many just want to do their job and keep the server they love safe. Admins are mods are not the enemy.
Many just want to do their job and keep the server they love safe. Admins are mods are not the enemy.
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This is why i like running my own server now because i can make a fun environment for all the players and not have it ruined by some D!@# who thinks its fun to mess with peoples stuff. The game is for fun not for someone ruin it when your trying to play with others.
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Yeah, I think older people should probably run servers now, but also some little kids because how are they supposed to learn?
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ONCE i was a co owner and a hacker de oped meh and griefed spawn i got blamed for it and a admin joined and said i deoped him and i got banned by the owner adn he askes me if im still alive and im like wat....
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I used to have a great server in which I frequented largely based around building and pvp... The head admin was and still is phenomenal, very mature does his job well. However that is as far as my praise goes for the server now. The staff are rude, don't help members in the slightest, and the admins are even worse. Any hint (not advertising but say becoming less active on the server) of you playing on another server and they immediately blacklist you, insult you any time you go on, or even find out what server you play on, come on and start spamming profane remarks on how bad the server is though they have no experience on it. Due to this I had ended up creating a new server with some new friends and this happened with not 1, not 2, but about 6 staff/admins from the previous server I had played on. When I sent an email to the owner in attempt to resolve this matter all that was said was "any advertising on my server will result in an immediate ban." Completely bypassing and avoiding my statements as well as photographic evidence of his staff's lack of professionalism and proper conduct.
Now with all that being said the server I play on now have great, helpful staff and everyone seems to enjoy themselves. Now all that is left on the server is to get a good amount of mature and dedicated members to start playing!
Now with all that being said the server I play on now have great, helpful staff and everyone seems to enjoy themselves. Now all that is left on the server is to get a good amount of mature and dedicated members to start playing!
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It is because most server owners are 12 and don't take time to pick their staff.
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Oh gosh do I have a story for this. It was on a server, an amazing survival server, that I started playing on one day. We'll give the owner a false name to simplify the story. So the owner is, fake name= Eof. I played on this server for a /ontime of 7 DAYS until there was an moderator election. I was was picked as a nominee, and I had eventually won the election. I was so excited, and everything was going great. On the 1 year anniversary of the server, someone griefed the redstone they had been working on. Eof was so mad, he/she shut down the server. The server was down for 3-4 days before Eof brought it back up after his/her little tantrum.Later after survival was up for a bit, Eof decided he/she wanted a factions server because it was more popular. So again, everyone on the the server hesitantly went with the change Eof so desperately wanted. The factions server was up, and it was not as successful as the survival, but still wasn't bad at all. After a while of this server, with the other admins and the owner spawning things in and stuff like that, the owner accuses ME of griefing and cheating to destroy his base (3 things, 1.I didn't do it, 2.It's impossible to overrun his faction because he abused the system, 3.I was derranked for this) after long useless argument, I said "Why don't you check the logs if you don't believe me?" After complaining that 'it would be too hard' and blahblah he did and found out it wasn't me. I was back to admin and the server proceeded. THEN, the owner decided this server wasn't popular enough, so he closed that one too and opened a flatworld creative that was whitelisted for 'all' the admins. I wasn't whitelisted. At the end of the day, I spent 14+ days /ontime ON the server, just for this little naggy 'not popular enough' ending. I'm very annoyed I spent time of my life on this, to end the way it did.
TL;DR: A server I spent alot of time on was closed because the owner was too selfish to notice people loved the server.
Also if 'Eof' is reading this, thanks for destroying a link between a bunch of people that became friends on your server.
TL;DR: A server I spent alot of time on was closed because the owner was too selfish to notice people loved the server.
Also if 'Eof' is reading this, thanks for destroying a link between a bunch of people that became friends on your server.
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Honestly I think admins are overrated now. You go on and they are either people that will ban you because you beat their over powered kits in a minigame, or you have better gear, or they just sit around doing nothing and let the bots they put in ban people for unfair rules because the owner is too lazy to modify them.
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Hey, when minecraft went downhill with 10 year old spoiled rich kids becoming admins
by using their moms paypal, the games community just went down. I blame popular youtubers. I noticed a community breakdown in garrys mod after yogscast uploaded garrys mod lets plays. This is my opinion. Sorry if you don't like it. But it is somewhat true.
by using their moms paypal, the games community just went down. I blame popular youtubers. I noticed a community breakdown in garrys mod after yogscast uploaded garrys mod lets plays. This is my opinion. Sorry if you don't like it. But it is somewhat true.
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I was on some random server, and the admin asked if anyone wanted to see his house. I said yes, and he teleported me to him. I ate some cake, which he said was world guarded, and I was banned for hacking.
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Okay, I have a server I was on. I was admin on it, and unfortunately so was this enemy...
So, one day, he decided to get me banned.
How: The Sudo Command..
He sudo kicked me, then he told the owner I had kicked him, which wasnt true. The owner checked the logs, and he said I didnt kick him. He banned me anyways, because the reason 'noob'
So, one day, he decided to get me banned.
How: The Sudo Command..
He sudo kicked me, then he told the owner I had kicked him, which wasnt true. The owner checked the logs, and he said I didnt kick him. He banned me anyways, because the reason 'noob'
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Wth does this have to do with anything? There are lots of good server admins out there, in fact most are good in my opinion. Just because one little kid trolled you doesn't mean all of them are bad.
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He is telling a story about a bad experience that he had. He is entitled to his opinion about Admins, and so are you. So next time you decide to post something like this, I suggest thinking about it from OP's perspective. I'm not trying to start something, just trying to start arguments or "flame wars" in the future.
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What i said was a generalization. I know plenty of admins who are worthy of their rank.
And for further confirmation, the owner of the server employs only his personal friends, all of which are 14-17 years of age.
And for further confirmation, the owner of the server employs only his personal friends, all of which are 14-17 years of age.
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Welllll, if you think about it..It depends on the person and what servers they go on. People go on different types of servers, they may witness the bad more than the good on the servers they play on.
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I've experienced rude admins before, and I hate it. I try my absolute best to be kind to the players on the server I'm an admin on.
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Well well...
This is the result of way too many many Minecraft servers and the majority of the games players being less the 10yrs old, choose servers wisely.
This is the result of way too many many Minecraft servers and the majority of the games players being less the 10yrs old, choose servers wisely.
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Not just admins, the owners, too. Here is my story.
A while ago, I used to have a favorite server named 'Terramining'. I continued to play it for another 6 months. During then, the owner had asked if I was available to take up a moderator role. Excited I have gained the owner's trust, I gladly accepted. A couple months later, the owner started only caring about popularity and money. He would make a few mods make spam advertisements on famous Youtuber's channels (Of course, I faked that I did it.). Then one day, he banned me from the staff server AND the public server. Reason why? I told him I would be gone for awhile to do some chores.
A while ago, I used to have a favorite server named 'Terramining'. I continued to play it for another 6 months. During then, the owner had asked if I was available to take up a moderator role. Excited I have gained the owner's trust, I gladly accepted. A couple months later, the owner started only caring about popularity and money. He would make a few mods make spam advertisements on famous Youtuber's channels (Of course, I faked that I did it.). Then one day, he banned me from the staff server AND the public server. Reason why? I told him I would be gone for awhile to do some chores.
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I quit a server recently because the owner pranked one of the more devoted members by killing him in the spawn while he was wearing full enchanted diamond by pouring lava on him.
The reason why I left wasn't because of the admin though, it was because the kid wouldn't stop shouting in the chat. 30 minutes straight...and he was still screaming when I logged back on an hour later.
The reason why I left wasn't because of the admin though, it was because the kid wouldn't stop shouting in the chat. 30 minutes straight...and he was still screaming when I logged back on an hour later.
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I wrote a blog about this subject a while back, or at least something similar.
People seem to assume having a staff rank is all about abusing/trolling the owner's players that they try so hard to get, and it's pretty stupid.
People seem to assume having a staff rank is all about abusing/trolling the owner's players that they try so hard to get, and it's pretty stupid.
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*Sigh*
not even admin is like this, What did you expect from what was probably a generic factions server? All admins seem like they're ten on those.
not even admin is like this, What did you expect from what was probably a generic factions server? All admins seem like they're ten on those.
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Wow. That's just... Mean.