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avatar The Diamond Creeper
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
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Today I'll be talking about something that bothers me more than almost anything. Members asking for promotions.


We've all experienced it...

On almost every Minecraft Server I've seen at least one person ask to become Moderator or Admin. It's common sense that you must be a trusted member on a server to even have a remote chance of becoming a staff member. Even then, you need to do something to prove yourself, such as help out new members or prove yourself with knowledge over programming or plugins in general. But without you being trusted and having experience with things like plugins, you have close to no chance of being promoted.


It really gets on my nerves when people do this at all. If you're going to be promoted, you're going to earn it, not simply ask for it. If I were the owner of a server and somebody asked to be a staff member, I'd immediately say no. In fact, I would set up rules just to prevent this. From then on, I wouldn't ever give the person who asked for the promotion a rank. The reason for this is not just to get under their skin, but because it's simple common sense. Would you ever go to your boss in real life and ask for a promotion? No.


Lying...

At least half the time somebody asks for a promotion they lie about their skills for certain things. For example, I almost always see, "I'm a very experienced plugin master and am Admin on 6 other servers." If anything, (with me) this would actually reduce the chance of them becoming a staff member on my server if they were Admin on 6 different servers. I would want commitment, and for them to be online often. People lie, and act like something they're not.

If I were on a server with an owner who promoted everyone who asked for a rank, I would immediately log off and never come online there again. The reason for this is because the staff would probably act as if they're professional, but in reality would have no idea what they're doing. This would annoy me to the point that I would rather go on a server with no staff than one with staff like that.

Of course when staff members on servers are irresponsible, you can always expect them to do one thing: Abuse their powers. This would ruin the game for players who are actually legitimately collecting resources and work hard when doing so. They'd use spawned items in the survival world, and teleport to players just to kill them. (Again, with their spawned resources) When picking staff members, don't first assume that everybody will be honest.

Sometimes it works...

Not every server owner is very good. Sometimes they actually give the people what they ask for. (Staff ranks) In result, that server turns from a good, well controlled area to a havoc filled, griefed wasteland. If you promote people who simply ask for the rank, you can't expect them to be good... Always expect the worst, because it's almost guaranteed that they WILL do the worst. They may go into creative mode and grief everything. They may spawn themselves godly weapons and attack every player on the server. They're not to be trusted, so you can't expect them to do anything good or productive.


Kissing Up...

To get promoted people often kiss up to the owner. They tell them that the server is great, that the owner's a really good staff member who looks after and takes care of everyone perfectly, and that they would love to help the community. That last part is almost always a lie. After the owner thanks the person, since he/she was complimented by them, they think that they're worthy to be staff members. Not following their logic? Me neither, but nobody knows what goes through their minds when they promote these types of people-- especially when it's obvious that they're lying about all those things just to get a "shiny new rank."


Owners that don't think about what they do also are on my (giant) list of pet peeves. They ruin the fun on the server because of the irresponsible/stupid decisions they make. They have no patience and aren't open to other ideas, and think that what they decide is the best. Also, the kiss ups encourage it, because they can say, "Great idea, this'll definitely improve this server!" and get on his good side, boosting their chances to get promoted. Before this turns into a rant, (probably too late) I should get my point across.


Conclusion

If you never ask for a promotion and the owner is responsible, then it'll usually higher your chances of becoming promoted if you're trusted. The reason for this is because often people who want the rank enough to ask for it are trolls trying to ruin the server. Sometimes they aren't, but it's common sense not to ask for a promotion, with my example above from asking for a promotion in real life from your boss. If your staff members don't have common sense, then that'll be a bad reputation the server will hold. Also, if you ask for the promotion and the owner is somebody with a similar personality as me, it'll lower your chances of getting what you want.


Thanks for reading!
Tupng
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11/05/2014 7:06 pm
Level 12 : Journeyman Dragon
campingdragon123
I agree

Even in planet minecraft people try to "kiss up" to be a moderator, or try to use a "free diamond system" where they give a diamond for one of your projects if you diamond their project.

What annoys me is that they didnt really earn it.
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11/06/2014 9:58 am
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Thanks!

Yeah, and with that sort of system it allows people that not only didn't earn it, but also don't try to contribute to the server in any way. The server reaches an all-time low.
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12/31/2013 6:43 pm
Level 8 : Apprentice Mage
OddsAre612
This is so true. I go on servers a lot, and it annoys me when people say, "Can I be op? I want to help the server" There are different ways to help a server, you know.
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05/28/2013 3:27 pm
Level 15 : Journeyman Dragonborn
Minesential
Really interesting, but I want to make it clear people ask their boss's for promotions all the time. (This of course is after years of hard work)
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05/28/2013 6:28 pm
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Yes, that happens, but I'm talking about if you just got accepted to a job and you ask for a promotion, much like how it happens in Minecraft. But either way, in my eyes, I think it's bad to ask for a promotion even after years of hard work. You should earn it rather than ask for it.
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05/28/2013 7:06 pm
Level 15 : Journeyman Dragonborn
Minesential
Okay I see your point, you meant new members. I love listening to that chat on servers cause its usually just out in the public, and they have dealt with it many times before.

Also I about the diamonding for bananas, how do I recieve mine. (my way of saying i gave you a diamond).
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05/28/2013 10:47 pm
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Haha, thanks Minesnetial.
You should have received a banana automatically. Has this not happened? Gah, it's not working. You, sir, have been cheated out of a banana.
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03/01/2013 7:57 pm
Level 2 : Apprentice Miner
SkyBlockXPLUS
Creeper, it's Darth. <3 LLDTB
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03/01/2013 8:27 pm
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Darth_teddy_Bear? ._.
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03/03/2013 7:19 am
Level 2 : Apprentice Miner
SkyBlockXPLUS
No, le Darth_teddy_Bear.
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01/27/2013 9:36 am
Level 3 : Apprentice Miner
rangastorm
my server has no other ops apart from me, because even the ones who worked hard and helped out still ended up harassing other players just because they didnt like them.
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01/21/2013 4:28 pm
Level 28 : Expert Geek
Magmalord
Epic! but there's one little problem..... sometimes if they arn't granted a rank, they will get a ragey and say they are going to hack the server blah blah blah. Thats not a problem. but sometimes people actually do it. i know atleast one server where that happened. Bu tthe member was banned almost immediatly, so the problem was solved. But i think that could happen on another server with a different result.
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01/21/2013 4:44 pm
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Thanks, and also:
That's true, but staff could easily ban them before they do it.
They wouldn't be "ragey" if a regular player denied, because they have no power of them.
Staff members would always be online to deal with this.
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01/08/2013 2:55 pm
Level 38 : Artisan Architect
Pancake slayer
Lol i do this way to often
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01/08/2013 5:58 pm
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
:3
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01/07/2013 5:09 pm
Level 1 : New Miner
Laserbeam232
Creeps! long time no see! did you save a bananananana? :P
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01/07/2013 6:00 pm
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Hey Laser, and yep.
Le Diamond Creeper gives Laserbeam a banana.
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01/05/2013 12:40 pm
Level 33 : Artisan Pirate
ChezPlz
I remember when I first downloaded Minecraft, my friend set up a small server for me and him. We looked on the Wiki and learned about OP. He OPed us both, and we made an awesome swag-base. Then we went on another server and all we wanted was this "OP." In order to understand why some noob would ask for admin, just remember when you had little understanding of the game.
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01/05/2013 1:38 pm
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Well I'm sure on the Wiki it said "Operator Powers". When you first join a server you're not an operator, you're a member. And, it's common sense. It's like asking for items when you don't know what they do. Still bad, even if you didn't have knowledge that it was. Use common sense and you won't make mistakes like that one.
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01/05/2013 2:35 pm
Level 33 : Artisan Pirate
ChezPlz
Just remember YOUR NOOB DAYS MAN.
..We all had them.
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01/05/2013 3:02 pm
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
When I was a noob I never joined a server because I didn't want to mess up.
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01/05/2013 10:59 am
Level 7 : Apprentice Crafter
Shirlie123
I love this post! I HATE it when people say, can i be an admin or how can i become a mod? Because those people are true wackos if they actually think people will give it to them. Once, a mini mod on a server i was on, was using invisibility on creative and walking around with a pumpkin head, iron chest plate and iron hoe and was throwing slowness potions all over my in game husbands school. Some mini mods have weird hobbies...
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01/05/2013 11:05 am
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Thanks, and yeah, it's strange why abusive staff members still get their ranks. It's a mystery, because the owners could easily fix it.
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01/05/2013 11:14 am
Level 7 : Apprentice Crafter
Shirlie123
I think it's because the abusive staff do these kind of things when the owner is not on, yet they are also very nosy. The owner of this server is very smart to me, but he doesn't pull the ban hammer out much. Some mini mods just tpa to me to see what I am doing
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01/05/2013 11:34 am
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Ah, well, you could always record them abusing powers if you get a good captured part of what they're doing.
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01/05/2013 11:16 am
Level 7 : Apprentice Crafter
Shirlie123
By the way, I don't want bananas or anything. it is not like they are real...
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01/05/2013 11:34 am
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
It's a joke. ._.
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01/05/2013 11:38 am
Level 7 : Apprentice Crafter
Shirlie123
I can't record on youtube. Have you seen my page? Im too young
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01/05/2013 8:51 am
Level 9 : Apprentice Explorer
3skandar
Nice post! You should make a post how to talk to the asker nicely. I currently on dillema on choosing staff ...
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01/05/2013 10:28 am
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Thanks, but I think that writing another blog similar would cause some havoc. People may think it's a duplicate/copied version of a blog that I posted already.
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01/05/2013 4:59 am
Level 45 : Master Elf
kontrano
Hmm by reading all the comments i think i might make a blog with a list of server staf that can be trusted and are loyal (this dousent mean they are not bussy on other servers being a good admin)
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01/05/2013 4:38 am
Level 45 : Master Elf
kontrano
Im absolutly with you on that im server owner and i used to have no ranks and server got seveerly grieved
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01/05/2013 10:23 am
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Thanks, and I'm sorry to hear that. :/
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01/04/2013 9:07 pm
Level 30 : Artisan Miner
Koveryl
I was promised a banana
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01/04/2013 9:08 pm
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Le Diamond Creeper passes Koveryl a banana and thanks him.
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01/04/2013 9:11 pm
Level 30 : Artisan Miner
Koveryl
Ah, thank you :3
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01/04/2013 9:13 pm
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Heh, no problem ;3
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01/04/2013 8:58 pm
Level 11 : Journeyman Pony
sandwalker
But i am admin on 6 other severs ._.
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01/04/2013 9:02 pm
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Lies.
Either way, I don't really enjoy being staff on a lot of servers.
I often find myself not looking forward to keeping track of countless players that often.
I decided to keep it one staff rank per server.
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01/05/2013 11:01 am
Level 11 : Journeyman Pony
sandwalker
I do but they always are small severs i dont like large severs
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01/05/2013 11:06 am
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Ah, well, I'm moderator on a large server, but not staff on any other.
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01/05/2013 4:54 am
Level 45 : Master Elf
kontrano
same here
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01/04/2013 8:58 pm
Level 3 : Apprentice Explorer
super_bradz
100% true
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01/04/2013 9:00 pm
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Thanks!
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01/04/2013 7:17 pm
Level 24 : Expert Artist
GT2012
Why it is flagged??
P.D.: Diamond!!
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01/04/2013 7:19 pm
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Not sure. :/
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01/04/2013 6:49 pm
Level 47 : Master Technomancer
ThatsMyPickaxe
This is pretty annoying. Once, I was on my friend's server, with him, and some guy was begging to be admin. While he was begging with "I'll help advertise and "I love this server", we didn't know he was really distracting us from noticing he was griefing my friend's build.
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01/05/2013 4:55 am
Level 45 : Master Elf
kontrano
*tip get factions in your server so you can protect your build easy
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01/04/2013 6:51 pm
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Wow, it's annoying that people even think about doing it. In my opinion just asking in general is annoying, but using it to distract others from your griefing... That's unbelievable.
I can't believe people would do this.
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01/04/2013 4:14 pm
Level 26 : Expert Nerd
megustaQUESO
You're right, it is annoying. Even if you're not the one being attacked with 6 year olds wanting admin, even hearing things like this is annoying. Oh, and I have done everything in the requirements for free bananas...
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01/04/2013 4:20 pm
Level 27 : Expert Narwhal
The Diamond Creeper
Thanks, and here:
Le Diamond Creeper hands megustaQUESO a banana. :3
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