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avatar Mr Zybez
Level 45 : Master Artist
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Hello everyone MrZybez here with the Omegaverse network.

I wanted to take time to talk about users abusing the use of “I’m from PMC” to review/grief/troll servers and its owners.

Yes I understand that there are sometimes real PMC users that would be helpful to review servers, but how do you sift through the fakes? Now PMC officially doesn’t send PMC Reviewers But most new server owners don’t know this and fall into the trap of grief these wannbie trollers cause.

Many server owners have found ways to "deal" with this problem, but i feel it would be better to solve the root of the problem.

I don't like the fact that PMC is being used as a weapon to fuel trollers. I feel that if we worked hard together to give a unified response to any/all others claiming to be from PMC we could help sift through those players and the ones who are really from PMC can get the recognition they deserve for their hard work and the trollers can just shove over.

So what about people who legitly want to review the server? Should we give them access? I say not. My reasons are simple, it’s hard to review a server from a different prospective from what the players normally experience. If players start on the ground then they should review it how the players actually sees it. Giving reviewers better privileges can cause false advertising by giving the reviewer a different point of view. Many review sites must use the actual product as a normal user would, why should reviewing a server be any different?

This here is something we have taught all our staff before in the past.

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Way 1

MrTroll: Hello I'm from PlanetMinecraft, I'm here to review your server. Is an owner online?
Staff: Great! The owner says the best way to review our server is from the players prospective.
Staff: So have fun, reviewing the server from the player’s eye view.

Reason: They can review but from the players perspective making it a true review

Way 2
MrTroll: Hello I'm from PlanetMinecraft, I'm here to review your server. Is an owner online?
Owner: That’s good to hear! I would like to talk more off the server. Do you have Mumble, TeamSpeak or Skype?

Reason: Verifying who the user is to see if they are legitimate

Way 3

MrTroll: Hello I'm here to review your server/ Take ScreenShots/ Make a Trailer
Owner/Staff: That’s good to hear! I would like to talk more off the server. Do you have Mumble, TeamSpeak or Skype?

Reason: Making Screenshots/Trailers/Reviews is great but make sure you can prove who you are.
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I have made Trailers and taken screenshots for other server before. It’s hard so make sure that if you are legitimate you can prove it

I taught this because I felt it was mean to be mean to those who use PMC. Because you really don’t know who it is, and truly I want them to see how great the server is and possibility stay.

The first 30 seconds are the most important to the players. they maybe a greifer, but that could change with the first impression. So I taught the staff to respect all even the greifers.

By asking for Human verification you could possibly meet those real PMC users and sift through the trollers. I have gained many new players from this technique that have become solid fans of our server. They came with bad intent but after words they became fans.

So I’m saying let fight back against the greifers and the trollers with a unified niceness, because the truth is, we don’t know who is on the other end. Players want to have fun whether they are form PMC or not. we should try to change the way we approach those trollers and help bring the good name back to PMC.

So in short

1. Fight trollers with kindness
2. Bring "I'm from PMC" to an end
3. Restore honor to PMC

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Updated Note: To be clear, I know "There ARE no legitimate official PMC server reviewers." However there are users/players who do come from PMC, as a place, to get servers to do reviews on that are not of the official capacity. I feel players shouldn’t lie about being PMC in an official capacity, and we should try to have more respect towards all who join our servers, whether they claim to be from PMC or not.

Hopefully by our efforts, we can honor the hard work PMC does with its community by not letting those trollers hurt us and hopefully eliminating them all together with kindness.
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The End

~MrZ
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Dude so true! :) once i started advertiseing my server offically with PMC.
(and PMC is pretty much the only place i advertise it) i started getting atleast 1 troller a day
asking for OP cause he says "Im from PMC here to review your server, can i have OP"

EVERYDAY! :) atleast 1.

Its partly why i changed all staff to ADMIN title. so there is no OWNER title.
meaning i can talk to him without him thinking i have ultimate power :) which seems to throw them off
the trail :D

i then say the owners name is HAL2000. and he is offline at the moment for maintance. :)

some get it.. some dont. its funny :)
Awesome! Honestly, the funniest thing I ever seen was when I was on my favorite server.
Some guy said 'Hi I'm from PMC and am here to review your server!'
Owner: "Nope"
Random Guy: 'Well my dad owns PMC so I'm going to have him shut this server down!'
Random Guy left the game.
  • Masstrix
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Nerd
  • October 20, 2014, 9:49 am
I just run a plugin on my server that looks for key words in 1 sentance and if it all adds up it will not send a message and if they keep doing it they will get band to 2d
  • Zatharel
  • Level 44
  • Master Sweetheart
  • October 20, 2014, 6:21 am
The thing is:
There ARE no legitimate official PMC server reviewers.
  • TenaciousEz
  • Level 5
  • Apprentice Modder
  • March 31, 2015, 6:35 pm
While there are no PMC promoted server reviewers, there are people like Mr. Zybez who do not ask for special premissions to review a server and has no malicious intent. 


So, overall, his article is valid?
  • Zatharel
  • Level 44
  • Master Sweetheart
  • April 1, 2015, 4:33 am
please don't tell me you just replied to a 5 month old comment.
  • TenaciousEz
  • Level 5
  • Apprentice Modder
  • April 1, 2015, 4:36 am
To completely honest I didn't realize it was 5 months old, my bad.
  • WarMage
  • Level 16
  • Journeyman Mage
  • October 20, 2014, 12:31 am
Greta++at blog. Usaly when someone comes to me with "I am from PMC. I am here to review your server" I just say "Great. Have fun"
Trooler: "Can I get some extra permissions/OP?"
Me: "Of course"
Me: ""Not :D"
And then I just keeo doing my business.
  • FEX___96
  • Level 74
  • Legendary Engineer
  • October 19, 2014, 10:32 pm
Good blog 0.o
  • Sleepify
  • Level 1
  • New Miner
  • October 19, 2014, 7:22 pm
Nice!
  • Vatredox
  • Level 17
  • Journeyman Toast
  • October 19, 2014, 12:06 pm
This is also done with things with yelp, people say they are from yelp in restaurants and they get much better service
  • HippOut
  • Level 18
  • Journeyman Explorer
  • October 19, 2014, 10:39 am
Ya know I would do... ;3
I would be all "AHHHH HE IS FROM PMC! TAKE MY MONEY! ERMEHGRN!" then... make him owner prefix with no permissions in a box at spawn for all to see... I am the nicest there is ;)
-HippyBomb
  • NASH0XX
  • Level 25
  • Expert Architect
  • October 19, 2014, 8:44 am
Not really a big deal, I've always used the "Way 1", and it's not really a problem for me.
  • scidoo
  • Level 11
  • Journeyman Taco
  • October 19, 2014, 8:25 am
I've got some PMC employee trolling blogs that are relevant to this post including how to handle some people :)
  • DeJay
  • Level 6
  • Apprentice Modder
  • October 18, 2014, 8:07 pm
I just pullout the planetminecraft.com/team page. Take a screenshot, ban them with a link to that screenshot.
  • OryHara350
  • Level 3
  • Apprentice Miner
  • October 18, 2014, 7:57 pm
lol, well, its prolly true they found the server on pmc, so pmc is their source, therefore they are from pmc.

this blog is inaccurate, when the attacker comes in as a reviewer, op is requested for a proper review.

this is an old scenario, and i actually dont see it as much as i used to.
  • Mr Zybez
  • Level 45
  • Master Artist
  • October 18, 2014, 9:00 pm
"lol, well, its prolly true they found the server on pmc, so pmc is their source, therefore they are from pmc."

True PMC is their source, However claiming to be offical is thier problem, not were they come from. I would love to have "real" reveiwers come on. That is what this post is talking about.

"this blog is inaccurate, when the attacker comes in as a reviewer, op is requested for a proper review."

Never in this blog did i say the word "op". This post is accurate as i wrote it 10 minutes after. This happened
"Way 1
MrTroll: Hello I'm from PlanetMinecraft, I'm here to review your server. Is an owner online?
Staff: Great! The owner says the best way to review our server is from the players prospective.
Staff: So have fun, reviewing the server from the player’s eye view."

"this is an old scenario, and i actually dont see it as much as i used to."

Regardless, its still rude from players to claim to be officals and give PMC a bad name. Am i wrong?
  • OryHara350
  • Level 3
  • Apprentice Miner
  • October 19, 2014, 7:40 am
no, its inaccurate, cause it didnt include the request of op status. all of the pmc reviewer attempts i seen included the request of op for a "proper review" of the server.

your not wrong about it being rude though, i dont see it giving pmc a bad name, owners are experienced in battling various troll tactics :) im sure they can tell who's fake and legit.
  • irritatedCat
  • Level 15
  • Journeyman Network
  • October 19, 2014, 8:28 am
Well, when they say,"Can I see the owner?" they want OP. I think he just realized you would understand. Also, most server owners are kids these days. No offense, but some don't know as much.
  • Veriity
  • Level 10
  • Journeyman Engineer
  • October 20, 2014, 12:14 pm
OnryHara, I'd like to see the server you run. "LOL"?

"This post is in accurate and this doesn't happen anymore."  I find this to be a generalized statement and without thought or due diligence on the subject.  Do the search on this site.

If they are from "PMC" that's fine.  That statement has two implications.  They found the server through the website searching for a server to visit or try..  Implying they are staff or of anyt authority from PMC... and need to do a review.. you, as the owner, exactly know what that implies.  The user wants GM1, or OP, or fly or something else.  The user will not hesitate to ask for it. 

This goes for owners who are and who are not *kids*.  Which.. we are most assuridly *NOT*.

Frankly, I do think this reflects badly on anyone who were to potentially come onto a server with a legitimate title or request.  You can find record of this directly on Reddit.  Mojang employees trying to assist and talk to larger server owners, only to get "You're not from Mojang, ya noob" from the owners.

and the owners were most assurdily *NOT* children.  Someone just cried "wolf" too many times.

~Ver.
  • irritatedCat
  • Level 15
  • Journeyman Network
  • October 20, 2014, 2:36 pm
I wasn't taking about the larger servers. I mean servers like factions and minigames.
Nop! ya aren't wrong.. like if that means you are right c: I hope we get this fight over. So the game finally/finnaly/finaly can be peaceful c:
  • Inter1tum
  • Level 31
  • Artisan Unicorn
  • October 18, 2014, 7:53 pm
I don't even get it, where do anyone even need OP when doing a review. Review needs to be wrote from the perspective of normal players, not from staff's perspective. Damn these "trollers" are stupid. :D
I say just ban em and BOOM! No more problems!
Its about dang time someone finally spoke up about this!
  • Veriity
  • Level 10
  • Journeyman Engineer
  • October 18, 2014, 10:03 am
I love this!  I'm so glad you posted this after we had this happen so many times on our server!  It's nice to know you're sharing this idea with sooo many people.

But.. I also like that we have so many regulars with these familiar responses:
"HI... I'm PersonX Your OP.  Now bow down."
"Hi... I'm also from PMC.  Let's Team"
"Hi... I'm from PMC.  I got OP they are out of passes for today."
"Hi... We're all doing server reviews.. you're from PMC?  I'm from IGN."
"HI... If you're from PMC... what's your badge Number?"
"Hi.. you're from PMC?  What's your email?
"Hi... Can I interest you in a timeshare?"



Of course.. we hear these over and over again.  But you are correct.. it is nice to have this unified response from staff.  Great job, Zy!  Glad you're on our side!
  • MissWriter
  • Level 20
  • Expert Scribe
  • October 18, 2014, 9:47 am
A very helpful post. There definitely is a lot of misinformation about this topic that fuels the trolls.

I would advise perhaps double-checking the spelling and grammar in this post as there are typos like "prospective" instead of "perspective."
  • Mr Zybez
  • Level 45
  • Master Artist
  • October 18, 2014, 9:53 am
Thanks. I'm not to good at spelling XD.
  • MissWriter
  • Level 20
  • Expert Scribe
  • October 18, 2014, 5:19 pm
I are good at speling. Don't worry about it.
  • quinnergee_
  • Level 11
  • Journeyman Fish
  • October 18, 2014, 6:42 am
like the blog for me I have seen no say that in anyserver I have bin in, but there are some idiots out there.
  • Karbru
  • Level 9
  • Apprentice Network
  • October 18, 2014, 12:20 am
Nice blog! They should make it so you can report players who say it to planetminecraft.. Just a idea
Hm. But what about the genuine people doing to review a server?
  • Mr Zybez
  • Level 45
  • Master Artist
  • October 17, 2014, 5:14 pm
Fixed/Updated
  • Mr Zybez
  • Level 45
  • Master Artist
  • October 17, 2014, 4:52 pm
I'll make an update. i forgot to add that part in XD. I have a paragrah to add oops
Sweet :)

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