Let's Talk: Mental Health// Depression


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Level 33 : Artisan Sweetheart
Hi Everyone. So, unlike my usual persona of being light-hearted and, well, ebullient, I'd
like to talk about a heavier subject that's been on my mind a lot lately.
That is, mental health, specifically depression.

Lately I've been seeing an increase in people using the terms depression.
For example, one boy at school today told me he was depressed when his parents took away his video games for a day this last weekend. This, however is not depression.
Depression in its most basic form is a lasting sadness over 2 weeks. So, what the
boy was experiencing was not depression, but rather a wave of sadness.
Now I know what you're thinking, "ebby, why does it matter? It's just being misunderstood a little, why is it such a big deal that you wrote a blog about it?"
And to that I say, it is a huge deal. When someone takes a mental disorder that
causes some people to eventually give up on living all together for some other reason, it loses its meaning in a way. Depression is not a feeling, it's a disorder. Depression is caused by someone's brain not working properly.
You just can't put that lightly.

Now, this isn't me being some dumb social-justice warrior. I get that it's going to be
misused either way, but it's still a concern.

If you think you're experiencing some form of depression, I'm begging you to get help.
Whether it be from a parent or guardian, a school counselor, a doctor, anyone.
You can't deal with this alone and it will help you get better way easier if you get the help
you need before it gets worse. I was silent about my depression for 2 years. I know
it's easier to stay quiet and fake it, but it wont help you better.
So please, talk to a friend or even message me. I'm always here to listen.

Stay safe everyone.
Stay alive. <3



Note : 03/22/2017 2:44:55 pm3/22/17

In this blog I'm not trying to claim to be a professional. Nor am I trying to say I know all there is to know about clinical depression. If you simply read some of the comments, I clearly am not trying to say I know everything. I do not. I am only trying to give a message of hope and let people know that my account is a safe space to be open with no judgement. I did do some research before writing this blog post. I'm sick of people being rude to me over this blog. I'm not taking it down. So stop getting your panties in a wad and drink a cup of water. Thank you.

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  • queer
  • Level 17
  • Journeyman Prince
  • May 10, 2017, 6:08 pm
. . . thanks, this needed to be said
  • josxph
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  • New Network
  • March 22, 2017, 10:01 pm
in most cases, depression can be defined as frustration turned towards oneself. although its also lack of dopamine, thats actually not as common as we think it is. although its hard to say nowadays, seeing people self diagnosing themselves left and right, it's just hard to see through that.

i suffered from what people call depression, for 3 years. and i never came out about it. in fact it was difficult for me to do so in the end. although most cases are different, people jumping the gun and saying "i have depression", tend to be looking for attention, and that itself, isnt bad.

however it makes reality cloudy. people who actually have depression, most of the time, dont get offended of suicide jokes or depression jokes. correction, they do get offended, however, they rarely demonstrate it. depression should not be promoted as a big deal. that will only make people that are actually depressed, feel more insecure, and have more inclination to keep it a secret.

i find it hard to take your blog seriously however, especially with that video at the end. why would you show someone whos depressed, a sad song. lyrics may be somewhat positive, but thats quite a melancholy song.

what helped me get out of my hole, was people that didnt directly confront me about depression, it was people who gave me their time, their ears, and a pat on the back when i needed it.
  • ebullience
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Sweetheart
  • March 23, 2017, 3:41 am
I put that song at the end because it is a calming song, not a sad one. The lyrics are full of encouragement and hope. Truce is one of the very few songs that put my mind at ease when my thoughts are racing and I can't stop them, so I was hoping it may help someone else. And just because your experience with depression was different, that doesn't mean that it is for someone else. I became depressed nearly 5 years ago when my best (and only) friend moved 12 hours away. I was bullied endlessly for being chubby and not being as athletic as the other kids. I stayed that way until October of 2016 when I had a terrible breakdown and tried to commit suicide. Therapy and music like Truce helped me get over the experience of trying to end my own life. Again, your experience may have been different than mine. You cannot say that your way of healing was the only way. Not all depression is the same as mine or yours.
  • josxph
  • Level 1
  • New Network
  • March 23, 2017, 1:54 pm
i repeated this various times. i said "most of the time" and im fully aware that all cases are different. ironically you speak of your case the same way i do. "You cannot say that your way of healing was the only way" do not put words in my mouth.

my point stands. that song may be calming. its sad. call it what you want. lyrics in these cases tend to be overlooked, so thats irrelevant. even some lyrics in that song are cryptic and mildly depressing.

i was curious so i grabbed that song and showed it to 3 of my friends, individually, well 1 was an acquaintance, and they all spoke the same way about it, they went into the lyrics, and they said although it is calming, they believed it wasnt appealing to the majority of people with depression. when i elaborated and showed them your blog, they said that song was out of context for the blog, and it was just there with no explanation.

songs are heavy. adding a song to your blog would uh, kind of deepen the mood, and it shows you havent really put much thought into the song selection and how it would affect readers :o
  • geooo
  • Level 23
  • Expert Button Pusher
  • March 22, 2017, 10:54 am
I don't see anything wrong with joking about Depression, suicide, self harm etc but I have dark humor but each to their own :D
  • ebullience
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Sweetheart
  • March 22, 2017, 11:02 am
Yeah! Some jokes are funny, but joking about self-harm can actually be really serious if someone is easily "triggered" by talk of self-harm. And also suicide jokes can also go too far very quickly if someone isn't aware of what they're saying.
  • Lola
  • Forum Moderator
  • Level 35
  • Artisan Goblin
  • March 22, 2017, 10:17 am
slight correction: clinical depression lasts a lot longer than 2 weeks those episodes last months. Only in case of (actual diagnosed) PMC a depressive episode will last about 10 days each month. Nevertheless, if you're feeling down i do agree seeking help is considered appropriate.
  • ebullience
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Sweetheart
  • March 22, 2017, 10:48 am
Actually, I said it lasts over 2 weeks.
"Depression in its most basic form is a lasting sadness over 2 weeks."
  • jack-ie
  • Level 3
  • Apprentice Artist
  • March 21, 2017, 4:15 pm
:0 this is so nice and true, lots of people at my school are like "LoL i hAve crippLing DeprEssiOn!!!" like no fight me don't make a joke of it
  • ebullience
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Sweetheart
  • March 21, 2017, 4:19 pm
  • Witherwings_
  • Level 19
  • Journeyman Toast
  • March 21, 2017, 2:37 pm
I really hate it when people make fun of depression. Almost everyday I hear jokes about it. Sometimes it's people saying "Kill yourself" or "I'm going to kill myself" and it's completely ridiculous! I even hear people making fun of self harm sometimes. (I love tøp and that song btw).
  • ebullience
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Sweetheart
  • March 21, 2017, 3:41 pm
I do too. And thank you! xx
  • Gopher Tuna
  • Retired Moderator
  • Level 40
  • Master Princess
  • March 21, 2017, 2:30 pm
but being depressed and suffering from depression are two different things, there's nothing wrong with saying you're depressed when you feel unhappy
I'd have to agree with Gopher Tuna. You can feel depressed and not have depression.

When someone says, "I feel depressed today," it means they feel depressed. De- is the stem for means down. It's being pressed down

When someone says, "I am depressed," it generally means they have the condition of depression

I do agree that it is used inappropriately in many situations, but the state of being depressed can be a feeling. I don't suggest people use it in the situation you described, but there are some situations that do call for the word.
  • Gopher Tuna
  • Retired Moderator
  • Level 40
  • Master Princess
  • March 22, 2017, 8:17 am
  • CHorse
  • Level 32
  • Artisan Fish
  • March 21, 2017, 4:41 am
I feel like depression isn't really the problem. Don't get me wrong; it does severely affect people. But I feel that depression is the normal reaction to remain normal; just like insanity is the body's attempt to heal itself. Depression is symply a symptom, it usually hints an even bigger and much worse problem. While you did try and help, I feel like this only reaffirmed some things (go to the doctor and the sort) rather than help in some ways.
  • ebullience
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Sweetheart
  • March 21, 2017, 5:48 am
I have to disagree with you there. If you would do a simple google search you would see that depression is not a reaction. Depression happens when chemicals in the body are unbalanced, such as a lack of dopamine. Depression is not a just a f*cking reaction. Sadness is a reaction. Depression is a state of mind that you cannot escape on your own. I'm sorry, but you're really ignorant if you can say that feeling hopeless and wanting to harm yourself or end up killing yourself is just a symptom. Depression might be more common in America and maybe that's why you have such a dumbed down view of it, but it is still a huge problem. I feel very strongly that depression is bigger than people can imagine. I myself was just hospitalized not 4 months ago for trying to commit suicide because I didn't care enough to get help for myself. Maybe you should do your research before saying such a big statement. :))
  • CHorse
  • Level 32
  • Artisan Fish
  • March 21, 2017, 11:55 am
Probably shouldn't have said that; not for the reasons that you would claim, but now I realize that all I'm doing is fanning the flames. I am sorry that you may have had to go through such an experience; I cannot possibly imagine how it feels, but I have done my research. While it is caused by such an imbalance, people do not simply become depressed for no apparent reason.
I will note that I am a bit angry about you accusing me of doing my research; so with that heads up, I'm sorry if I say anything I do not intend to say.
From what I've read in psychology (not quickly googled it for leverage) depression is caused by a sense of helplessness.

There was a study in 1975 by researchers William R. Miller and Martha Seligman where dogs were put into boxes. There were two sets, bioth having a box with a barrier. They were given electric shocks, the first set was given control over the shocks; if they jumped over the barrier the shocks stopped. However the other set did not have any control; the shocks came on and off randomly. The ones without any control over the shocks became depressed, and didn't learn to jump the barrier, the ones who had control did not become depressed. They did another study on humans and found similar effects; using arithmetic as the barrier to jump and distracting noise as the shock. They also worked with depressed people and found that they exhibited the same behavior as the depressed dogs.

The works of R.D. Laing (1927-1989) will also not go unnoticed. People's insanity and psychological 'disorders' are not disorders, but simply a person trying to return to his original state.

I once again apologize if any of this angers you; it is not my intent. I do believe depression is a reaction, not because I am malinformed, but because I have some evidence of it. I know you are angry, and that is ok, I am trying to be as respectful as I can, but it is increasingly hard when someone I feel is not well-informed tells me that I am mis-informed without any proper evidence. I have felt a bit of depression, so I do know some of the gravity the item has.
  • ebullience
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Sweetheart
  • March 21, 2017, 12:26 pm
Perhaps I was the one uninformed. I shouldn't have gone off like I did and I apologize. I will confess I only looked at a few websites and went off of what I've experienced myself. I also apologize for accusing you of not knowing what you were talking about. Clearly, you know more about my disorder than even I do haha. I should have also given you some of my sources but I didn't. Reading now my entire rebuttal was fallacious and just an emotional response. I am not trying to excuse myself, but I am very sensitive when it comes to talk about mental disorders. It was wrong of me to treat your comment as if you were ignorant, and I again apologize.
  • CHorse
  • Level 32
  • Artisan Fish
  • March 21, 2017, 1:42 pm
I thank you. If anything, at least you apologized; half the people I get into this type of conversation end up raging out on me. I understand why you would become rather angry at me, and I do know how it can be to talk about something very personal. I would normally avoid these type of things, as they are hard to talk about clearly, and only commented because I feel like some people do not understand some of these things.

I would also like to note that after a bit of searching (and asking my older brother because he knows a lot) turns out I was only talking about one type of depression. Apparently there are other types of depression with different causes, so I can see where your argument comes from.
  • ebullience
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Sweetheart
  • March 21, 2017, 3:50 pm
Yes. Different types of depression (from what I've read and seen) seem to come from either a sense hopelessness, worthlessness, loneliness, and helplessness.
And thank so much for commenting and responding as calmly as you did. Again, I'm so so sorry for responding the way I did and going off at you.
  • CHorse
  • Level 32
  • Artisan Fish
  • March 21, 2017, 4:26 pm
Your welcome! But don't worry, it's understandable to have such a reaction.
  • Beverly
  • Level 64
  • High Grandmaster Necromancer
  • March 20, 2017, 6:05 pm
Thank you for writing this, Ebby dear. You are 100% correct.
  • Uhhh
  • Level 26
  • Expert Narwhal
  • March 20, 2017, 5:47 pm
Wow this blog is amazing, this is how I feel. One thing I don't really hate but it gets me annoyed when people say "Can You Kill Me" or "I want to die". Yes I know I say that but I sometimes mean it, it's seems dumb but ehhhhhh. Well I have help from you your my therapist ;> and it really helps.
  • ebullience
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Sweetheart
  • March 20, 2017, 5:55 pm
  • Avablxnc
  • Level 13
  • Journeyman Botanist
  • March 20, 2017, 7:20 pm
if im ever depressed (i just feel like shiz monthly at random times) ill pm u

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