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Originality, is it dying?

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avatar WillFrost
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
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Ok, mini rant time! :D



Firstly, I recently posted a skin, of a green guy with a box on his head. Maybe not the first skin everyone thinks of when they look for a skin, but an interesting original concept...



...2 days later, 19 views, no diamonds, no downloads, no comments...



Why is it that all the similar skin ideas get popular, but most original ideas hardly even get noticed?



Is it because the skin is bad?

Is it because people don't like originality?

Is it because these skins get lost under waves of repetative skins?



Do you have an oppinion on this? Did that same thing happen to you? Post a comment bellow...



WillFrost
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10/08/2012 9:34 am
Level 47 : Master Narwhal
DMB2121
I think it's because all the things people like have been posted over and over, making them unoriginal but still popular
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10/09/2012 9:35 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
Yeah, pretty much.

Just keep trying to post original stuff, and it gets noticed eventually :)
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09/06/2012 4:32 am
Level 46 : Master Pyro
stanyoyoyo
Yeah i know, That sometimes happens to me :( By the way how did you make that guy in the poster? Did you use blender?
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09/07/2012 5:14 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
I use MCSkinEdit and Paint.net for all my skins (well, nearly all of them)
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08/28/2012 4:45 am
Level 8 : Apprentice Artist
Lightialgikia
I guess the Popular Skins are uploaded more so there more spread out and found
Btw People stop getting the crappy no shaded teen skin, it pisses me off >.<

Diamond for you because i recognize what you mean :3
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08/28/2012 3:54 pm
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
Thanks for the diamond :D

I agree, and teen skins are really annoying.
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08/01/2012 8:51 am
Level 26 : Expert Nerd
modernMC
I know, it happens to us all.Sometimes I want to reach out and slap them to their senses.We need to spread the word! +1 diamond: Well done.
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08/01/2012 10:59 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
Thanks :D
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07/13/2012 4:17 pm
Level 7 : Apprentice Architect
Stewie
It's probably the fact that most good skins get flooded out from the massive waves of copied,unoriginal,etc skins.It's a damn shame, indeed. Many skinners, like yourself don;t get the recognition they deserve.

On a side note. The lack of originality is exactly why i made my own skins, rather than having to browse through pages upon pages of poorly done skins.

P.S. your monster skin is awesome
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07/14/2012 8:16 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
I know what you mean. I also think that a lot of people simply come to planet minecraft to get particular well known skins.

But yeah, that's why people make their own skins :)

Oh, and thanks :D
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06/24/2012 7:24 pm
Level 38 : Artisan Pixel Puncher
DakoTraw
It has happened to me a lot, Like I posted this skin today
http://www.planetminecraft.com/skin/masked-flame/ And I have 2 diamonds, 20 views, and 1 download. Seriously....
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06/25/2012 1:09 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
Your skin is good :) I gave you a diamond!
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06/25/2012 6:40 am
Level 38 : Artisan Pixel Puncher
DakoTraw
Thanks. :)
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06/22/2012 12:47 am
Level 32 : Artisan Creeper
w5prime
I have hade the same problem ive only got a couple veiws on my skins even though they are origanal.the thing i dont like his some people use the same skin all the time for posting apart from the change the name and one or two pixels.plus your skin is amazing
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06/22/2012 2:15 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
I think the best advice I can give you is not to use any noise on skins, and try to make the edges of each part slightly darker.

I know there are a lot if copied and duplicated skins going around (especially teen Hoodie skins). It also really annoys me, but the best way to stop them is to make good original skins and show them how they should make skins :)

Oh and thanks :D
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06/22/2012 10:49 am
Level 32 : Artisan Creeper
w5prime
I agree i have seen alot of teenage skins and the really annoyme
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06/22/2012 11:01 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
Yeah, there are too many, and they all use the exact same skin, just recoloured. It's not even as if they try to make new versions
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06/22/2012 11:29 am
Level 32 : Artisan Creeper
w5prime
some of them arnt evan recoloured
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06/22/2012 12:36 pm
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
I know xD

Why do people even bother posting them?
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06/21/2012 5:41 pm
Level 6 : Apprentice Narwhal
Aiyeris
That is a fucking high quality skin right there. I'm using that box carrying creature.
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06/22/2012 2:12 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
Thanks :D
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06/21/2012 7:20 am
Level 25 : Expert Robot
McHeadshot
I agree,I found this guy who has TONS of copied skins and even the obviously copied ones have quite alot of views : >CONVENIENT BUTTON<
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06/21/2012 9:49 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
yeah I see.

What you need to do is flag the stolen skins!
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06/21/2012 8:25 pm
Level 25 : Expert Robot
McHeadshot
I showed draco_dragon (A mod) his profile.
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06/22/2012 2:11 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
Ok, good work :)
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07/04/2012 6:53 am
Level 27 : Expert Geek
InsertCactus
Good idea w/ a convenient button, because you're not allowed to blacklist users. :)
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06/20/2012 6:32 pm
Level 17 : Journeyman Ninja
foREVerSHAD0WS
Ahaha what? That makes me smile, He's got a box on his head. I don't know why people wouldn't look at this, it's awesome. Sure, not extremely detailed but... Still. That's funny.
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06/21/2012 2:19 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
Glad you sort of like it :)

The skin isn't particularly detailed since I am trying out a style of shading where I limit the number of colours I use.

Anyway, thanks :D
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06/23/2012 11:44 am
Level 17 : Journeyman Ninja
foREVerSHAD0WS
Ah, well for the limited colours it's pretty good.
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06/23/2012 4:03 pm
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
Thanks :)
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06/20/2012 12:53 pm
Level 65 : High Grandmaster Slime Tamer
M1CKY
If you want reak answers:
The idea is good, but the Skin have not so much Details.
I really didn't saw this is a Green Monster with a Boy on the top-

But never, i mean NEVER make such blogs, this is so poorly....

;)
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06/20/2012 1:57 pm
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
Umm, you have a few odd spelling mistakes in your comment, but I will ignore those for now xD

The skin wasn't meant to have a lot of detail, I tried using a limited number of colours to achieve an interesting effect.

It isn't meant to be a green monster with a BOY on top, it's a green monster with a BOX on top.

What's wrong with my blog? I am trying to give my oppinion on the state of originality on planet minecraft. I was also trying to actually find out what it was about the skin that made it go unnoticed...

Thanks for saying the idea is good though :)
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06/20/2012 2:03 pm
Level 65 : High Grandmaster Slime Tamer
M1CKY
Sorry, English is not my native Language, and i accidentally pressed Y...

I like your skin but i think the other people dont see it :P

I mean, the blog is like you run to your mother and cry... "Mum, the other people dont click on my skin...."
:P That's the thing.
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06/20/2012 2:08 pm
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
Oh, ok, you don't happen to be french do you? I'm half french, so I can sort of chat in French if that's better for you than English :)

The reason I made the blog wasn't to just get more views on a bad skin, but to work out why people didn't like the skin. In the end, it turned out they did, so that's good :D

I don't try to get views for the xp, I can get way more from texture packs anyway xD I just want to know what people think of my art :)
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06/17/2012 11:24 pm
Level 14 : Journeyman Engineer
BloodFall
I have to say looking back at my skins they aren't the most original ideas i could think of : oh well i dont come here often anyways...
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06/18/2012 2:04 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
You don't have to create original skins if you don't want to, but if you do, it helps support originality :)
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06/17/2012 10:10 pm
Level 35 : Artisan Unicorn
ChiTiger
This has happen to me a lot people don't like new ideas so this is basically how it works the popularity of the idea or person you make into a skin= the popularity that the skin will be the only exception is the popularity of the person creating it which also has an effect on it as well that comes first then the quality of the skin for example my caboose skin is awful but since caboose is a popular character on RvsB it gets lots of views and my newer skins are more original and I'm working on making skins that no1 has made b4 (or at least made one well) and the idea is not popular so it doesn't matter how good it is at least that's my observation on what's going on I may be wrong it's just a theory
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06/18/2012 2:02 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
I see what you mean, all we can do is keep producing original skins and hope they get noticed.
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06/17/2012 1:06 pm
Level 23 : Expert Scribe
Scholarbadger
Will, i would give you a f**king medal.
PMC seems to DESPISE original skins!
Users now only like skins they know from video games, movies, and such, but noone likes originality because it seems weird, and new, and it's hard for others to accpet or transition to new ideas and things.
I love originality, i too, have made many original skins that i ended up taking down because no one would pay any attention to them.
I'm with you Will, and yes, originality IS dying, however i love you box head skin! :D
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06/17/2012 1:19 pm
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
Wow, thanks :)

I always wondered why in an original game, in which people build new and original stuff, people don't seem to be very original with skins. I'm glad that there are people like you who believe in originality :D

Oh, and why not check out my new original texture pack!! :)
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06/15/2012 7:54 am
Level 13 : Journeyman Archer
Commando_Fog
Happened & cried.... =(
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06/15/2012 10:01 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
:(
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06/15/2012 1:44 am
Level 25 : Expert Skinner
Jaspb01
Yeah, it happens to me tons, only if I have a name EVERYONE will search does it get noticed, I blame the names and how people don't search them.
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06/15/2012 2:15 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
I think that the problem is more to do with the look of skins, as very few people actually search for skins on PMC. They just look at recent stuff.
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06/14/2012 11:21 pm
Level 33 : Artisan Toast
jango2
I know i hate being undermined with pathetic "teen" skins >:(
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06/15/2012 1:11 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
Yeah. There are a rediculous number of the exact same teen skin, with odd gradient shading. I don't know where people get it, but it gets posted every day.

The only hope is to go arround flagging the copied ones as unoriginal content.
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06/14/2012 7:25 pm
Level 29 : Expert Archer
LittleMrMole
I know the feeling. It's especially present with all the contest skins. I must have filtered through about 50 non sea-themed skins and 100 "Poseidon" and "Mermaid" skins before you get to innovative ideas. Hell, I even submitted an all right skin (Especially by my standard) and in 4 days I think I got 2 diamonds, including the default one it gives you.
http://www.planetminecraft.com/skin/when-squids-attack/

See?
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06/15/2012 1:08 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
Yeah, the problem was even worse with the apocalypse skin contest, with hundreds and hundreds of zombie skins.

Oh, and I like the concept of your skin, and while the shading could be improved a bit, I gave you a diamond for originality.
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06/15/2012 12:22 pm
Level 29 : Expert Archer
LittleMrMole
Yeah, I tired to put a spin on the zombie thing but it didn't work. And thanks for the diamond, I'm still working on developing shading techniques. :)
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06/15/2012 12:51 pm
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
WillFrost
No problem. Keep making skins and you will improve your shading :)
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