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Pings (A PSA)

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(I apologize in advance, as I wrote this at midnight)

Pings are beneficial, pings are friends.

In chat, saying a word (like, for instance, your username) will highlight it and make a sound to alert you that someone is talking to you. But recently (and for all of time), there has been an influx of people refusing to use them. This is extremely annoying, since I'm never on chat just to be on chat, I'm always doing something else along side it. I quite oftenly enough miss out on conversations, and usually won't realize the fact someone is trying to have a conversation.

Using pings are a simple, yet extremely effective way to maximise your time on chat, adding the ability to coherantly carry-on a conversation while multi-tasking, and showing that you actually care enough about what and who you're talking to to write out their name.

I've noticed quite a few moderators won't use pings, and I honestly don't know why. It takes like three extra seconds, and eliminates tons of confusion. Many times I've been trying to talk to a moderator, and they don't use pings. I couldn't tell if they were talking to me, or if they were talking to someone else. The confusion level goes down with pings, so use them.

Seriously guys, this is more of a PSA then a work of art, but I've been annoyed by this for long enough without speaking out. I don't really care what is done with it, but I don't like people not using pings, and its unnecessary. Pings take about 2-3 seconds to type out, or using a shortcut (like the first two or three letters of their name, then hitting TAB) make it seem ridiculous not to use them.

But, to those who say that its our duty and responsibility to pay attention to conversations, not everyone has the time, gumption, or attention to do so. Lots of times, people are multitasking, and pings help conversations, along with pointing it at certain people. That can reduce bunches of confusion, which is good.

Again I say, pings are friends, not enemies.

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01/04/2015 11:19 pm
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Miss Shadowz
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It also takes a few seconds to type the first few letters of a name and click tab.
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01/04/2015 11:28 pm
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Punkamoar
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And? It still seems too easy to make it void. And, a few seconds is an exaggeration. One, maybe. Two, if you're slow.
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12/22/2014 9:41 am
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Rakqoi
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I think being part of a conversation in chat takes some focus and a bit of dedication. If someone is trying to have a conversation it's with whoever is currently active and engauged in the chat, not just some random person on the member list. For the most part it's fairly clear who is talking to who in chat without using pings, so if you're actually engauged it isn't a problem at all.

I multitask during chat since, well, I'm in chat almost literally whenever I'm awake. I miss out on a lot of conversations to be sure while I'm multitasking, but if I devote my attention to chat I can easily partake in the conversations without any pings.

You can't expect everyone to want you in on your conversations. No one is going to say "Bacon is pretty good? Anyone else agree? PIKAMOAR". As mean as it sounds, they're asking anyone who's in chat, not you in particular. It takes work from you to enter into conversations, not work from everyone else trying to have one.

However, if you're having a specific conversation with someone and you don't get a ping from them after a while, maybe it's your job to check and see if they replied to your previous message, rather than their job to alert you of it.

So this all probably sounds mean, but it't just how it is. Chat belongs to those who pay it attention, not to those who rely on others to pay attention for them.
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12/22/2014 12:05 pm
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Punkamoar
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Taking this a paragraph at a time.

1: It totally doesn't, but almost never anyone is on chat exclusively.

2: Totally, but again, barely anyone does that.

3: I never said anything of the sort. I'm talking about keeping conversations going, not getting in on them. I seriously agree with you on this, but it makes no sense because I never said anything like it in the blog.

4: I'm not disagreeing

5: I didn't find it mean, the best advice is given blunt and truthful. But seriously enough, pings are almost the easiest things to use, the amount of shortcuts given, make it silly not to use them. Even if you are supposed to be actively engaged in a conversation, pings ensure it, and when there are a lot of people in chat, they clear up confusion.
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12/22/2014 9:32 am
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Charlizard
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or you could use your initiative and understand how a conversation works. Sorry if this sounds snide, it's just this seems very silly. You don't demand people in real life say your name every sentence because you pick up cues that they are talking to you, this happens in chat, too.
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12/22/2014 11:58 am
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Punkamoar
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Ye, but a conversation =/= chat. Chat is different, since (at least I) never use chat exclusively. Also, usually in real life, people aren't talking all around you, and their words don't stay on the screen in real life. Possibly come back with a better analogy next time.
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12/22/2014 12:46 pm
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Charlizard
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lol what? Just because you don't get my analogy it doesn't mean you can get all sassy with me. Chat doesn't need to cater to your needs due to you not understanding social cues, I really don't get why you think it should.

It does happen in real life. People talk in groups. Words overlap. Yet, somehow, people still maintain conversations. You are really blowing this out of proportion for whatever reason.
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12/22/2014 12:58 pm
Level 55 : Grandmaster Musician
Punkamoar
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The only reason i was is because your analogy doesn't fit with the context, perhaps find a better one? Also, if this is your view of things, then why not petition to get them removed? People like them, you don't need to get technical about how its not realistic. PMC isn't real life, I don't see how you can think that chat should be.

When talking in groups, its usual for people to just be talking, not multitasking. In chat, its usual for people to be doing other things, but when conversing in real life, in particular in groups, its usual to just talk.

Again, chat isn't like a real conversation, and I don't see why you are connecting two things that are so obviously different.
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12/22/2014 1:03 pm
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Charlizard
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I'm by no means saying pings are bad, they aren't. Pings are good for chat. I'm saying that your lack of whatever to keep up with a conversation that is causing you to dictate everyone to speak a different way is silly.
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12/22/2014 1:51 pm
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Punkamoar
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Guess what, I'm not.

I'm saying that its annoying and completely unnecessary for people not to use them. Its you that's brought up the fact that I don't conversation well. So what if I want it to be easy to converse with people? So what if I make a PSA saying how useless it is not to use them? So what if I can't be on chat just to converse with people?
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