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Wolvereness evil or hero? Was the EULA changes in preparation for Microsoft?

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avatar pr4xt3roy
Level 30 : Artisan Mage
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Yeah, the minecraft situation is difficult.

EULA changes, DMCA, Microsoft.... Are they all related?
I do not know if they are a coincidence or not. I try to keep an open mind about this. Here's what I've learned.

Feb 2012 - Mojang aquires Bukkit, everyone seems happy...
https://forums.bukkit.org/threads/bukkit-the-next-chapter.62489/

June 16th 2014 - Mojang modify EULA that affect server owners and perhaps bukkit too
https://mojang.com/2014/06/lets-talk-server-monetisation-the-follow-up-qa/

June 16th 2014 - Notch express his frustration about the hate he gets from that EULA change.
https://twitter.com/notch/status/478766808841732096

Aug 21st 2014 - EvilSeph, Project Leader of Bukkit tries to terminate the project because of the EULA changes that Mojang will enforce is not worth it anymore...
http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/bukkit-its-time-to-say.305106/

Aug 21st 2014 Later - Mojang reports they took over Bukkit dev
https://twitter.com/_grum/status/502381523241144320

Aug 22nd 2014 - Other team members of Bukkit follow leader and leaves the project
http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-fish.305350/
http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/an-independent-goodbye.310086/

Aug 25th 2014 - The Bukkit sysadmin (Who has resigned) confirms that Mojang has taken over and Dinnerbone will update Bukkit to 1.8
https://storify.com/lukegb/the-tale-of-bukkit-for-minecraft-1-8

Sep 3rd 2014 - Wesley Wolfe, A.K.A. Wolverness files a DMCA against Bukkit saying that all the software shipped which his code (which is licensed GPL) must comply with all the licenses (including his own license). He claims that bukkit is distributing his code along with other code that is NOT open source (minecraft code). So he want Mojang to release the code PUBLIC. Does he know something is cooking? I would be surprised if he would know what would be happening with Mojang selling to Microsoft.
http://dl.bukkit.org/dmca/notification.txt

Sep 3rd 2014 - Spigot respond to the dmca saying they will try to fight it. Then later they comply with it.
http://www.spigotmc.org/threads/dmcad.28536/

Sep 5th 2014 - Mojang state they do not endorse Wolverness's claims at all and will get this resolved but it will take time.
http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/mojang-and-the-bukkit-project.309715/

Sep 9th 2014 - WSJ reports a rumor about Microsoft wanting to buy Mojang
http://online.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-near-deal-to-buy-minecraft-1410300213

Sep 15th 2014 - Mojang confirms the purchase by Microsoft.
https://mojang.com/2014/09/yes-were-being-bought-by-microsoft/

Sep 15th 2014 - Notch announce he is leaving Mojang and Minecraft
http://notch.net/2014/09/im-leaving-mojang/

There are a lot of speculations about the Wolverness's motivations...

I've read some posts (I lost the links) that says Wolverness did this because he was unhappy about the EULA and he has a vendetta against Mojang.
Could it be that because EvilSeph was unable to shutdown the project, he took a different approach at shutting it down???

Could it be that Wolverness knew about Microsoft and is trying to save minecraft from Microsoft by trying to force the code to become OpenSource???

I do not know his motivations, Wolverness is not talking. We will have to wait and see what happens.

Could his DMCA be related in some way to Microsoft buyout? Perhaps, but I think it would be indirectly related. As I said earlier, I would be surprised that a bukkit dev (operating outside Mojang) would know what Mojang was up to...

Could the EULA changes be related to Microsoft buyout? Perhaps.. But according to Notch's post, he decided to sell after a realization that came to him from all the hate he was getting about the EULA changes. So according to Notch's own post, the EULA change came before the idea of selling to Microsoft.  From what I understand, Notch decided to sell because of the community's reaction to the EULA changes... so.. it's all our fault!

This is all very depressing!

PS: Did I miss anything?

-- Pr4xt3roy
Owner of CapricaTown
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10/31/2014 1:09 pm
Level 6 : Apprentice Crafter
Garvinator
What about spigot announcing to update to 1.8?
http://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-8-progress-check.32792/
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10/31/2014 11:36 am
Level 1 : New Miner
sparc343
I cannot say I fully comprehend whatever is going on here. I cannot say I really care either. See, I don't give a flying **** about ANY of the "politics" behind things like this (GAMES). I don't care about the dollar signs, I don't care about the "Intellectual Property Rights", I don't care about NONE of that ****! What I care about at the end of the day is if I am able to do what I desire to do (in terms of entertainment). So I don't care, I really don't, who "screwed over who" in terms of $$$.$$$ or ©©©.©©© or whatever is going on. Because what REALLY SUCKS at the end of the day is, it's not Mojang or Microsnot or some random "code contributor" (I've never even heard of until this DRAMA) that are gonna hurt from this, REALLY! It's the poor people (like myself) who may want to just sit down and play something like MC/CB for a few hours as they unwind before going to sleep. (before you jump my guns, I have NO interest in playing SP or "vanilla" without CB - MC is dead to me)... So maybe the "big boys" will realize this sooner or later so development of CB can continue on. If not, R.I.P. MineCraft!

So (maybe if I am understanding the situation at all for "what it is") maybe Mojang can pull their head out of their ass and just release the source code for MC. I really don't know what people (company's) have against Open Source anyway, it's not like 99% of the people out there don't even want it, and or wouldn't even know what to do with it if you GAVE it to them forcefully. Or maybe this clown will pull his head out of his ass, and realize that yes, it sucks to be 'stolen' from, but IT HAPPENS, and is he really gonna sit there and whine like a little ****ing 12 year old over the fact that he's not getting his way? What even is it that he wants, I hear he's "not talking". Does he want MC to have its source code released, or does he want monetary compensation? One of them have to "cave in" or MC WILL *DIE* - is the way I see it.

Of course at the end of the day it's ALL about money (think about it, that's all © is about too, the ****ing MONEY) so, money TRULY is the SQUARE ROOT of ALL EVIL. Maybe and hopefully these involved parties will PULL THEIR HEADS OUT OF THEIR ASSES, so we can just go back to enjoying our MC/CB game! After all, it's truly US getting hurt here! You think for a second a huge company like "Mojang" is getting hurt in any way over all this? How about some "code contributor" who voluntarily contributed knowing full well he wasn't gonna be compensated monetarily? Nope, just us.

My $0.02

Luckily I have a few versions already saved. So I will just stick with those old and outdated versions, as that would still be better than up to date vanilla. I think I have 1.6.4, 1.7.2, and 1.7.9
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09/23/2014 9:15 am
Level 1 : New Miner
Eyrianna
Not to sound jaded, my friend, but the idea that Notch sold to Microsoft as a result of the "hate" from the Minecraft community sounds like a big whiny excuse to me to either make his own conscience feel better or to make us feel responsible -- or BOTH.  I would sooner believe I can use a carrot and a saddle to make a pig fly.  
 
Deals that involve 2.5 BILLION dollars do not take place over a 12 week period -  it takes many months, even years sometimes to work out the negotiations - particularly between successful companies (ie. -- no one is desperate).  Microsoft has no doubt been courting Mojang for a long time -- and why not?  It's a valuable commodity.

It makes sense that Mojang would acquire Bukkit -- sweetens the deal if everyone is on the same team right?  It is interesting that after doing so there was a flood of team members jumping ship -- did they know something before us?  I think that is quite possible.

BTW  - great job on the timeline!  I really appreciate you arranging it -  that makes it all the more obvious (to me at least) that this plan has been in the works for quite some time.  The dots connect in a line that is all too straight to be coincidental.

As for Wolverness... I have to admit I'm on the fence as to the hero/villain status.  I would like to believe his intentions are good... but I have a sneaking suspicion it boils down to the same old same old -- everyone just wants a piece of the pie.  The question is - does he deserve it?  Who deserves what in this scenario?

Markus and pals started an awesome little company with an awesome little idea that got really big in a hurry -- and it was helped along by the amazing collection of developers and creative minds from all corners.  I'm sure many of them feel entitled to their fair share, instead of being treated like they are simply cogs in a giant machine.  However, unless they are outright shareholders of Mojang, they are likely to be shut out of any major windfall as a result of this deal.   Could the DMCA be some sort of leverage in a compensation package?

I would like to think that things are going to smooth out and all will be well, but I won't be surprised if they don't, I'll be even less surprised to see it get worse before it gets better. 

One thing we can count on -- big companies that make games know that Christmas is coming -- so if they expect to start milking the cash cow, they better get their act together soon.  So cheer up -- they say Christmas is the time of miracles!
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