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AMD vs INTEL!+ 8 CORE vs 4 CORE! Vote now!
generalcedric
PryorJordanN
Hey you! I'm about to get a new computer and I knead to know which is better: AMD or INTEL. Also I want to know if a 8 core processor is better than a 4 core!
Post which one you think is better, and maybe why?
Thanks!!!!
Post which one you think is better, and maybe why?
Thanks!!!!
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Intel is better in total but AMD is more budget made so, if on budget get amd if Not go intel!
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Intel is always better than AMD. Why? AMD is loud...
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ElycinZemor
According to Speccy, I'm hovering around 35-40 degrees (Celsius).
16.6C With Coolermaster TX3 @ 28C environment.
Other than that, it seems you have a decent cooler. or are you running Stock-spiral?
I think I'm using a stock cooler. I'm away from my PC right now.
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Processors :
Price/Quality amd is better, quality of intel processors is very high but they are also very expensive. If u only have 200$ to spend, get amd, if ur budget is higher than get intel.
An octa-Core of amd performs as good as a quad-core of intel ( That says a lot about the quality
Price/Quality amd is better, quality of intel processors is very high but they are also very expensive. If u only have 200$ to spend, get amd, if ur budget is higher than get intel.
An octa-Core of amd performs as good as a quad-core of intel ( That says a lot about the quality
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Bump!
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In my past, I have used the following 2 processors:
Intel i3 3225 Ivy Bridge Processor
AMD Phenom ii x4 970 Black Edition
To compare the two processors, the Intel processor is a dual core. With hyper threading enabled, it makes 2 virtual cores to make Windows use it as a quad core. The AMD processor is a quad core.
Physical cores are ALWAYS better than virtual cores, however that does not always mean better performance.
From all my use on both hardwares (running Windows 7), I noticed faster performance overall on the i3 processor in everything but gaming. In gaming however, both chips performed about the same.
The Phenom ii x4 970 costed about $100 I believe at the time I bought it.
The Intel i3 3225 costed about $160 when I bought it (now priced at $140)
So essentially, AMD is better if you don't have the money to afford Intel. Otherwise, go with Intel.
Intel i3 3225 Ivy Bridge Processor
AMD Phenom ii x4 970 Black Edition
To compare the two processors, the Intel processor is a dual core. With hyper threading enabled, it makes 2 virtual cores to make Windows use it as a quad core. The AMD processor is a quad core.
Physical cores are ALWAYS better than virtual cores, however that does not always mean better performance.
From all my use on both hardwares (running Windows 7), I noticed faster performance overall on the i3 processor in everything but gaming. In gaming however, both chips performed about the same.
The Phenom ii x4 970 costed about $100 I believe at the time I bought it.
The Intel i3 3225 costed about $160 when I bought it (now priced at $140)
So essentially, AMD is better if you don't have the money to afford Intel. Otherwise, go with Intel.
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Intel is always better than AMD, also depending on the processor, 8 cores is usually better than 4 cores.
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No, just no.
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The Cooler Master Hyper 212 evo is a great deal for the price. If you want to spend more you can go for a custom loop liquid cooler.
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Thanks random! Got any ideal coolers for a budget?
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heres mine and it cools like a charm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835209049 its a liquid cooler.
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Get the 8350 then. It performs on par if not better than an i7 for most rendering programs for 100$ less. Make sure to get a good 990fx motherboard and a good cooler so you can overclock.
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what's the difference? :3
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Ok thanks guys! I'm mainly going to use the computer for rendering graphics more than gaming so probally an AMD right? I found a 3.6 ghz one with 8 core for $150 ( cant find link )
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1 Intel core =/= 1 AMD core. Intel's CPUs are more powerful per core but they cost more than AMD's CPUs. Most games don't use more than 4 cores. For most people an AMD cpu will be perfectly fine.
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Intel.
It's more futuristic and more energy effiecient than AMD
Energy efficient = less heat generated.
It's more futuristic and more energy effiecient than AMD
Energy efficient = less heat generated.
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This really depends on what you're doing.
For example, if you're doing a lot of media editing, rendering youtube videos and so on, then an AMD 8-core will be plenty.
However, if you're doing a lot of gaming, then an intel quad-core would probably be better than the AMD 8-core.
AMD gives a more all-out explosive power, whereas intel is a bit more refined. For bulk tasks the AMD is better (rendering is a really good example of that), whereas focusing on a few high resource programs is where the intel shines through.
I've just got a mac pro which has two Intel Xeon quadcores in (so effectively a more powerful 8-core intel). Once my RAM arrives I'll let you know how it performs compared to my quadcore i7 laptop and 8-core AMD PC.
(it's worth noting, on a final note, that I seem to be one of the few people here with a balanced argument as I actually use both currently. Not naming any names but some people seem to be just going on what they've heard, and haven't actually USED both processor brands)
For example, if you're doing a lot of media editing, rendering youtube videos and so on, then an AMD 8-core will be plenty.
However, if you're doing a lot of gaming, then an intel quad-core would probably be better than the AMD 8-core.
AMD gives a more all-out explosive power, whereas intel is a bit more refined. For bulk tasks the AMD is better (rendering is a really good example of that), whereas focusing on a few high resource programs is where the intel shines through.
I've just got a mac pro which has two Intel Xeon quadcores in (so effectively a more powerful 8-core intel). Once my RAM arrives I'll let you know how it performs compared to my quadcore i7 laptop and 8-core AMD PC.
(it's worth noting, on a final note, that I seem to be one of the few people here with a balanced argument as I actually use both currently. Not naming any names but some people seem to be just going on what they've heard, and haven't actually USED both processor brands)
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and i had a intel haswell series and it kept crashing and had tons of issues for me so i think amd is the way to go for gaming and editing
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Every CPU in my house is an Intel, even the one in a late 90's computer that still runs great. We've only had two computers crash -- both due to human, not system, error.
I'm not saying AMD CPUs are bad (they're great; I've used them and they're fine), I'm saying they are just for lower-budget computers. They don't perform as well when compared to similar Intel CPUs, but they're a lot cheaper.
I'm not saying AMD CPUs are bad (they're great; I've used them and they're fine), I'm saying they are just for lower-budget computers. They don't perform as well when compared to similar Intel CPUs, but they're a lot cheaper.
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One poor experience is not enough to say that another brand is better.
I'm using an i5-3470 and have not had any serious issues.
I'm using an i5-3470 and have not had any serious issues.
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Haswell and Ivy Bridge doesn't use Fluxless Solder, causing high idle temps crashing.
http://bit.ly/1cATjve
"PC Watch found thermal interface material – paste – instead of the fluxless solder Intel’s public relations department claimed. The difference between the two materials is pronounced. Fluxless solder doesn’t decay or dry out over time, whereas thermal compound, or TIM, loses its efficacy slowly. TIM can become desiccated in as little as two years,"
Quality for Price lies at AMD's hands now,
http://bit.ly/1cATjve
"PC Watch found thermal interface material – paste – instead of the fluxless solder Intel’s public relations department claimed. The difference between the two materials is pronounced. Fluxless solder doesn’t decay or dry out over time, whereas thermal compound, or TIM, loses its efficacy slowly. TIM can become desiccated in as little as two years,"
Quality for Price lies at AMD's hands now,
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Apparently the fluxless solder was causing microcracks during its expansion and contraction. They were kinda between a rock and a hard place, but thermal paste was probably the best option for the long run, had they used better paste.
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According to Speccy, I'm hovering around 35-40 degrees (Celsius).
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16.6C With Coolermaster TX3 @ 28C environment.
Other than that, it seems you have a decent cooler. or are you running Stock-spiral?
Probably The Self overclocking(Turbo), Casues the Fixed atoms in a processor to move. could only imagine that happening to the solder.
Other than that, it seems you have a decent cooler. or are you running Stock-spiral?
TheShadbusherApparently the fluxless solder was causing microcracks during its expansion and contraction. They were kinda between a rock and a hard place, but thermal paste was probably the best option for the long run, had they used better paste.
Probably The Self overclocking(Turbo), Casues the Fixed atoms in a processor to move. could only imagine that happening to the solder.
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I've got an intel i5, Mine runs any game and handles anything. intel is usually a good thing anyways and AMD processors have issues most of the time as well and are overrated :/
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If you're going Amd (which will be your best bet in terms of performance), get an Fx8120 (the 8120+ will be great for games).
However, if you plan to do video rendering on the computer, you're gonna be kicking yourself if you get intel
However, if you plan to do video rendering on the computer, you're gonna be kicking yourself if you get intel
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If you're going Intel (which will be your best bet in terms of performance), get an i5 (the i5-4670K will be great for games).
However, if you plan to do video rendering on the computer, you're gonna be kicking yourself if you don't get an i7 (i7-4770K is what I bought recently; waiting on RAM for it right now ;-;).
However, if you plan to do video rendering on the computer, you're gonna be kicking yourself if you don't get an i7 (i7-4770K is what I bought recently; waiting on RAM for it right now ;-;).
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whats the name of the processor that you are getting and are you gonna use you pc for gaming?
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8 core is better and it depends on the processor, usually Intel is the way to go.
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8 core is not necessarily better.
Refer to Elycin's post.
Refer to Elycin's post.
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If you are going to be gaming with this computer go with Intel. 90% of games hardly make efficient use of the first four cores so having eight is useless. Also in any gaming benchmark Intel does so much more than AMD.
(!However!, This may change because xbox and playstation have AMD 8 core processors and may force game developers to utilize the extra cores.)
If money is not an issue I would recommend an I7. It is more expensive, but beats anything AMD throws at it hands down.
If money is an issue I would recommend an I5. As far as gaming is concerned an I5 is what you get.
The only reason to go AMD is cost or you do a lot of Multi-Threaded application. If you were worried about the later you would not be here.
As for 8 core vs 4 core. A four core what you need for gaming, but Intel 6 cores processors are incredibly fast. More than what you need.
TLDR: Intel and anything higher than 4 cores is unnecessary. But if you can afford it, go for it.
(!However!, This may change because xbox and playstation have AMD 8 core processors and may force game developers to utilize the extra cores.)
If money is not an issue I would recommend an I7. It is more expensive, but beats anything AMD throws at it hands down.
If money is an issue I would recommend an I5. As far as gaming is concerned an I5 is what you get.
The only reason to go AMD is cost or you do a lot of Multi-Threaded application. If you were worried about the later you would not be here.
As for 8 core vs 4 core. A four core what you need for gaming, but Intel 6 cores processors are incredibly fast. More than what you need.
TLDR: Intel and anything higher than 4 cores is unnecessary. But if you can afford it, go for it.
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Yes I'm building this myself I have almost everything ready but I'm stuck on he motherboard..
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Dangit, I had a good paragraph going a minute ago, but i hit the back button, so I'll give you the TL;DR. AMD FX = Better multi-tasking, unlocked multiplier, but motherboard choices are limited. Intel i5 = Better (slightly) gaming performance, but costs more for unlocked.
... you are building this yourself, right?
... you are building this yourself, right?
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Intel is really better than AMD (Processors)
AMD is really better than Intel (Graphic Cards)
AMD is really better than Intel (Graphic Cards)
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Well, if you're going to compare dedicated video cards to integrated, of course most dedicated ones are going to win.
Perhaps by Intel, you mean Nvidia, If that's the case, the truth is a bit more complicated.
Perhaps by Intel, you mean Nvidia, If that's the case, the truth is a bit more complicated.
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chuck_213035
These 2 links below are to similar processors. One from AMD. The other from Intel. They are both quad-core processors. The AMD is 3.6 GHz and the Intel is 3.4. The price of the AMD is only $100, while the price of the Intel is $240.
AMD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819113281
Intel:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819116899
OP, don't listen to this guy. He assumes that higher processor speed= better performance. That just isn't the case with these two CPU's.
Refer to these comparisons:
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/442/AM ... 4670K.html
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-3 ... D-A8-5600K
Passmark scores: 7,130 (Intel) vs 4,352 (AMD)
As you can see, the Intel quad-core completely destroys the AMD quad-core. It isn't even close.
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Intel doesn't have any CPUs with more than 6 cores, and most are dual- or quad-core. However, Intel i7 processors (and some older i5's) have hyperthreading, which essentially makes each core run as if it were two cores (two threads on each), for a total of 8 on the quad-cores, and 12 on the 6-cores.
AMD has CPUs ranging from one to eight cores.
Intel's CPUs tend to be pricier, but they do perform better in benchmarks (not by a whole lot though). They also are more efficient with power usage.
AMD CPUs use a lot of power (comparing an 84 Watt Intel CPU to a 100 Watt AMD CPU), but they're a lot cheaper.
In short, if you're on a budget and think getting a beefier power supply is cheaper than getting an Intel CPU, get an AMD processor. If you want efficiency and don't mind spending some extra money for it, get an Intel processor.
AMD has CPUs ranging from one to eight cores.
Intel's CPUs tend to be pricier, but they do perform better in benchmarks (not by a whole lot though). They also are more efficient with power usage.
AMD CPUs use a lot of power (comparing an 84 Watt Intel CPU to a 100 Watt AMD CPU), but they're a lot cheaper.
In short, if you're on a budget and think getting a beefier power supply is cheaper than getting an Intel CPU, get an AMD processor. If you want efficiency and don't mind spending some extra money for it, get an Intel processor.
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generalcedricHey you! I'm about to get a new computer and I knead to know which is better: AMD or INTEL. Also I want to know if a 8 core processor is better than a 4 core!
Post which one you think is better, and maybe why?
Thanks!!!!
I prefer AMD. Intel is overpriced. I currently use an AMD FX-8320 Vishera that is 8 cores at 3.5-4.0GHz in my desktop. I only spent $160 on it.
But don't let RAM be your limiting factor in speed. Get 1600 MHz or 1866 MHz RAM. You could get all the RAM your motherboard would support, but if the frequency is 1333 or less, you will have issues on higher quality games.
These 2 links below are to similar processors. One from AMD. The other from Intel. They are both quad-core processors. The AMD is 3.6 GHz and the Intel is 3.4. The price of the AMD is only $100, while the price of the Intel is $240.
AMD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819113281
Intel:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819116899
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Ok thanks Azie
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8 core is almost always faster than a 4 core. Brand quality and reviews are important too though. Don't assume that because it has more cores, it will automatically be better. It may be a brand known for having issues. Generally though, Intel and AMD are both good.
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Depends on Clock Speed, Modules, Threads, Caches, Etc.
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The AMD FX-6300 has 6 Modules, but 2 Modules count as 1 Core.
Theoretically, there is 6 Cores, but being read as 3.
edit:
The AMD FX-6300 has 6 Modules, but 2 Modules count as 1 Core.
Theoretically, there is 6 Cores, but being read as 3.
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What about prices tho?
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Intel.
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I think I would get a 8 core from Intel, but the price is very expensive compared to amd
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i have a amd 8 core cpu and it runs so fast so i think you should get a amd 8 core cpu and i had a intel 8 core cpu and its not worth getting its kinda slower then the amd one
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The more core's you have the more problems the processor will overcome. Quad core intel i5 is just perfect, and it'll run anything.
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I do believe an Intel 8 core may be better. But don't take that as definite, as I'm not so great on knowledge when it comes to processors.
