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created 07/10/2014 5:43 pm by Swimmer1929
last reply 07/11/2014 9:37 pm
Hi. I've put together a list of components on PCPartPicker that I'm considering to buy (haven't decided on the operating system yet). Is there any way to make it improved or cost a bit less without sacrificing performance? Thanks.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6350 3.9GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($80.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 270X 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($192.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $795.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Thanks again
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Swimmer1929
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07/11/2014 9:37 pm
Level 39 : Artisan Taco
Swimmer1929
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Killertoad
Swimmer1929

Sounds good, thanks. Also, do you think I need an aftermarket CPU cooler or thermal paste for this? I won't be overclocking.

No, stock cooler will be fine, and the stock cooler has thermal paste under it, so don't remove the plastic on the cooler until you are about to put it on.

Unless you plan on getting a broadwell cpu, and overclocking it. Then i'd go ahead and buy one.

And why do you have a z97 board if you're not overclocking? You could just go with a h97 board from asrock.

TWSSYesterdayI recommend an intel processor AMD if you're going for performance in minecraft since it relies mostly on single threaded performance: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

Not quite sure what you're suggesting, are you saying get AMD for single core performance?

Sounds good, thanks.
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07/11/2014 6:29 pm
Level 52 : Grandmaster Cyborg
TWSSYesterday
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I recommend an intel processor AMD if you're going for performance in minecraft since it relies mostly on single threaded performance: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html
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07/11/2014 4:50 pm
Level 31 : Artisan Dragonborn
WTFshady
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Randomness' build is pretty good. You might want to get a cheaper case and cheaper RAM. Also, you might want to get a HDD (2TB if the cheaper case + the cheaper RAM get you enough to get it).
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07/11/2014 4:31 pm
Level 21 : Expert Engineer
NetworkPCE
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I recommend going for a 1tb HDD instead of an 250gb ssd. If you are going to play games, and many games. Trust me your 250gb will be full quickly.

The i3 randomness recommended is much colder and more quiet than the fx series, also consumes lower amount of heat. It is also $20 cheaper which makes you able to buy the 280x.

As recommended above for only a little more you get the 280x which is quite a bit faster than the 270x. The ram is overpriced, you can get 8gb of ram for $60.

The SSD randomness recommended is among the cheapest for it's gb and performance, really good choice.

Myself i would recommend Randomness's build, gives you better upgradability for the future, i5's and i7's.
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07/11/2014 11:00 am
Level 34 : Artisan Taco
monte carino
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813138372
cheaper mobo
$60

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820313434
cheaper memory
$69

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822148840
this not an SSD.. but like everyone else on the thread. I recomend getting HDD instead
$60

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811553003
cheaper case
$40

new price is around $600
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07/11/2014 9:55 am
Level 12 : Journeyman Architect
Epicminer911
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I would suggest getting a nvidia GeForce GTX 760 as your graphics card, and if your going to use your computer for gaming, you need at least a 600w power supply, and if possible, try to get a msi motherboard.
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07/11/2014 10:01 am
Level 26 : Expert Princess
Randomness3333
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R9 280is cheaper than the 760 with the same if not better performance. Why do you say a 600 watt power supply is necessary? Many gaming rigs use less than 450 watts total so a 500 watt psu would be fine for those. Why an MSI motherboard when there are other brands that make board with similar and better guality?
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07/11/2014 10:00 am
Level 19 : Journeyman Ninja
Afootpluto
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The 760 is as good as a R9 270X. And u don't need a 600 watt power supply with a single GPU because the CPU uses around 125 watts and the GPU is about 200 watts.
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07/11/2014 9:36 am
Level 26 : Expert Princess
Randomness3333
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For just 10$ more than the cost of your original build you can fit in a r9 280x.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Elite 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($85.87 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $744.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
The i3 and 6350 will have similar gaming performance, one will do better than the other depending on the game. Also, the i3 costs less and uses less power saving even more money. This build gives you the option to upgrade to a broadwell i5 or i7 in the future and overclock.
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07/11/2014 3:49 pm
Level 39 : Artisan Taco
Swimmer1929
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Whoa, thanks. I might be wrong but wouldn't that i3 bottleneck the 280x in some situations?
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07/11/2014 3:54 pm
Level 19 : Journeyman Ninja
Afootpluto
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I would stay with the FX processer
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07/11/2014 4:11 pm
Level 39 : Artisan Taco
Swimmer1929
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Ok, lol. So far I've read that the FX 6350 beats the i3 4150 in everything except for applications that only use one core.
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07/10/2014 11:04 pm
Level 11 : Journeyman Explorer
53MP3RF1
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kFXyt6
Pricier, but will perform better and has an overclocking-capable motherboard that was cheaper than the cheapest h97 motherboard, but it will do well. Unfortunately, CPU isn't unlocked - that will have to be saved for upgrades.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BKhkWZ
Negligibly pricier, but has a better graphics card and more powerful PSU.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Wc4st6
Your basic build, just lowered costs on some items (e.g. RAM, SSD, GPU).

Arguably, your best choice if you're not upgrading in the very near future is to go with the first build I suggested. The quad-core i5 is arguably better than the FX-6350 which you have in your build. The second build is a mix between the first and your original build, keeping the original CPU and just changing the GPU and other things. The third build I suggested is the cheapest, and is basically your build just with cheaper (sometimes better!) products.

If you are short money now but intend to get money in the near future (1-2 years), I would say you go with this build, as it will allow you to overclock (if you intend to do so, otherwise you can go with a G3220 as opposed to the G3258) and then upgrade to a higher-end i5 in the future, or possibly wait until 5th generation CPUs and buy an unlocked one then.
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07/10/2014 5:59 pm
Level 24 : Expert Crafter
Killertoad
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I don't know a ton about AMD motherboards, but I believe there is a cheaper one that is just as good.

Also that ram is a bit overpriced.


And I'd recommend a HDD and a SDD, that SDD may fill up fast. But 250 is a good amount, lol.

I'd also get the mx100 256, over that one, and it's cheaper.

Also, could you get a different case? I love that case and all, but it is a bit overpriced.
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07/11/2014 4:25 pm
Level 39 : Artisan Taco
Swimmer1929
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Yeah, I'll get a different case. Do you think the Corsair 200R is good?
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07/11/2014 5:09 pm
Level 24 : Expert Crafter
Killertoad
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I personally like the BitFenix Merc Alpha it's a mid sized ATX case.

And I'd also stay with the i3, it may be a tiny bit slower in games, but your GPU will really be deciding your frames. I'm guessing, with that cpu and a 280x, you'll get about 60-70 FPS on BF4, on ultra. Once you upgrade your cpu, you'll stay in the 80 - 100's.

So you'll max out pretty much any game with around 60 fps. (Minecraft will be in the hundreds)
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07/11/2014 6:14 pm
Level 39 : Artisan Taco
Swimmer1929
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Sounds good, thanks. Also, do you think I need an aftermarket CPU cooler or thermal paste for this? I won't be overclocking.
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07/11/2014 6:41 pm
Level 24 : Expert Crafter
Killertoad
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No, stock cooler will be fine, and the stock cooler has thermal paste under it, so don't remove the plastic on the cooler until you are about to put it on.

Unless you plan on getting a broadwell cpu, and overclocking it. Then i'd go ahead and buy one.

And why do you have a z97 board if you're not overclocking? You could just go with a h97 board from asrock.

TWSSYesterdayI recommend an intel processor AMD if you're going for performance in minecraft since it relies mostly on single threaded performance: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

Not quite sure what you're suggesting, are you saying get AMD for single core performance?
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07/10/2014 5:46 pm
Level 27 : Expert Dragonborn
funny bunny
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You could get more storage for cheaper if you went with a 72000rpm hdd
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07/10/2014 5:49 pm
Level 39 : Artisan Taco
Swimmer1929
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Thanks but I've never filled a hard drive more than 120 GB lol and I'd really prefer an SSD.
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07/10/2014 5:55 pm
Level 3 : Apprentice Explorer
funnybuilder456
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If you are getting an ssd then i recommend getting an hdd too otherwise your ssd is gonna become slow overtime because you will be downloading everything to it

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