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i3 is realistic if you're not planning on getting a GPU immediately, since the Intel HD 4400 graphics are pretty decent for at least Minecraft and can probably run low end games like L4D2 or Garry's Mod on reasonable settings at a good frame rate.

4GB is low but also realistic in this price range, since RAM is basically the easiest component to upgrade and a lot of people have set ups that include a 4gb stick anyway, this is fine. (4x4 for 16gb or 2x4 for 8gb) The only problem if you want 16gb on a MicroATX you can't use 4gb sticks.

Stop trying to convince people that your build is good and that everybody should be using APUs for playing AAA title games.

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Movies use motion blur to make everything look buttery smooth, but in games it doesn't work this way. 30FPS for 2015 is horrible and 60FPS is truly smooth. Your logic is whack.

Your logic is wack if you think movies are comparable to games. You interact with games. You just watch movies.

The difference between 30fps and 60fps is visually noticable, but what you don't understand is that the real gain here is the much improved input time in 60fps. I feel like I'm dragging across the screen at 30fps instead of a fluid quick motion. You're either oblivious, or you have never played at 60fps.

That being said, consoles before played at 30fps and I was perfectly fine. It was only after I was spoiled with 60fps did I really hold a grudge against consoles.

InqueThe people that spend 800+ dollars on a PC/Laptop make me laugh. The laugh turns into a deep feeling of disappointment when the 'PC Geniuses' start flame wars over which overpriced piece of Alienware works better than the other.

I've used an HP Pro 3500 for 3-4 years now, got it for 300$ and I've never felt the need to buy another PC. With ~500$ to spend, I'm sure you could get something substantially nicer than what I have and I personally find my computer fine.

I've been able to play all the Borderlands games on max graphics settings, Left 4 Dead 2 max graphics settings, BioShock Infinite upper average settings and several more that I can't think of off the top of my head. All of them I've played with little to no stuttter, ever.

I know I'm not using some sort of high tech beast machine, but you don't have to spend ungodly amounts to get an effective and faithful machine.

Those are all medicore intensive titles you've listed. PC geniuses and Alienware do not mix lmao. Try running BF4, PS2, GTAV, and Witcher 3 and post your results.

Further, there's no way that you got that PC unless it was super on sale. For one, it's prebuilt and going to cost maybe at LEAST $400 for the entry level build. Two, parts were more expensive in 2012 than they are now. $52 cpu, about $50 for the HDD, $25 ram, PSU maybe $40, dunno how solid the case is so that's probably between $30 and $60, multimedia drive most likely about $20, and the OS, which is discounted in bulk. So $217, but that's not the total. You think you can get a prebuilt PC for about the price of getting the parts and building it on your own? Wrong. Next comes liscensing, manufacturing costs, partnerships with retailers, and other expenses that could come into play. Keep in mind that this is the MINIMUM build, with a celeron and 250gb HDD.

Here's an i3 variant that is more than DOUBLE the price of what claim you paid, and this is the price TODAY. This isn't even the price from 2012. http://www.amazon.com/HP-Desktop-i3-324 ... B00F0R7VPA

My point is that you think you can get away with less, but you just got your system on sale.

Further, no one is suggesting building a gaming PC with $800. It's overkill. Some of the people with these $800 PC's also do more than just gaming on them. I for one need to edit videos and sometimes even use blender to render and animate a large scale scene, and I can tell you that a $500 vs a $800 gets the job done MUCH faster. Work on multiple tasks at once vs being stuck to completely being unable to work on the next project while I wait for another to finalize is much more efficient. I'm currently going with a Skylake build for about $1,000.

Getting back on topic, I think some important questions need to be asked from the OP. Do you need an OS? What other games do you plan on running? How long do you plan on gaming on this PC? Is 30fps suitable, or would you require 60fps? Is there ANY possible way to extend your budget by waiting so save up more, or is this budget capped as is?

On a side note, i would NOT recommend getting used parts. You don't know if the seller is lying about the usage and if something does go wrong, it's really hard to hold them accountable for it because PC's can go in the blink of an eye. The parts could get damaged in transit and there's no warranty. You'd maybe get your money back, but you'd lose the part. It's just that there's more things to go wrong, and a weaker wall to fall back on.

Yeah, if you say so.


Pretty much all Intel CPUs (Except Xeons) have an iGPU. The i3 graphics won't be playing any games at 4k ultra any time soon but it does have better than the Pentium series and slightly worse than the i5 series. (Which makes a lot of sense)

He means a chromebook, not the OS.