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Tech People! Are these components worth the upgrade?

AliksZander's Avatar AliksZander12/6/13 2:25 pm
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12/10/2013 5:23 am
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Hey. Here is my current specs (a bit lacking from my knowledge). Would everything i am replacing work together?

CURRENT:
CPU = Intel Pentium E5800 (TO BE REPLACED)
RAM = 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 @ 399MHZ (is this a bit slow?)
MOTHERBOARD = MSI G41M-P28 (NEEDS TO BE REPLACED?)
GRAPHICS CARD = Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti (MSI) (TO BE REPLACED)
STORAGE = 931GB Hitatchi (SATA)

ORIGINAL OPTION:
GRAPHICS CARD = EVGA GTX 760 ACX 2GB
MOTHERBOARD = Gigabyte GA-Z77
CPU = Intel Core I5 3570K
CASE = Casecom KK-9949

EDITED OPTION (NEW LIST):
GRAPHICS CARD = EVGA GTX 760 ACX 2GB
MOTHERBOARD = Gigabyte GA-Z87
CPU = Intel Core I5 4670K
RAM = Kingston 8GB 1600mhz
CASE = AeroCool Strike X

So yeh! i need people to tell me whether the improvements im making are worth it, what else i could do to further improve for minimal cost. Also if these components all fit! Do i need a new motherboard for the CPU? Im not sure. Tell me. Also, is my RAM really slow? I've looked at speeds and it seems really bad. Also does it all fit inside the case i suggested? Thanks in advance!
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12/10/2013 5:23 am
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ElycinPrice to performance ratio wise, an FX-6300($120) Can top all i3/i5's, for an high end build, go for i7, but your just going to get Hyperthreading, if you have a higher budget, go for the i5/i7's for performance.

For GPU, Stick with the R9 Series, The OpenCL Performance is massive

If i get an amd card i wont be able to use PhysX right? That could be annoying.


There is software based modifications for AMD Cards, but all the physics calculation are still done by cpu.

its also nothing you will really notice,
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12/08/2013 4:40 pm
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Ram definately, and CPU. That's it.
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12/08/2013 4:19 pm
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superpeanut911
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AMD FX 6000 series CPUs are cheap and really powerful
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12/08/2013 4:12 pm
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Randomness3333
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The new list looks great. Everything will work fine together.
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12/08/2013 6:18 pm
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AliksZander
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Cool! Good to know considering its a lot of money leaving my pocket.
mrelectroman3Ram definately, and CPU. That's it.

Yeh, i didnt realise how big of a problem the RAM was.
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12/08/2013 1:18 pm
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Randomness3333Nope, no PhysX with AMD GPUs.

Yeh thats what i thought. PhysX plays a big part in the games i play and i dont want it running from my CPU. Ah well.
zxSM1FFYzxYou do not need an I5 or I7, I recommend a dual or quad core i3 or get an AMD Do some research into it but the case is up to you haha! What ever floats your boat... Also your graphics card is okay depending on what you want to play because they vary from £50/75$ - £2000/2200$ or so 8GB RAM is perfect for running a gaming PC + Your motherboard has to have the right socket to fit the processor so you will need a compatible one... Good luck with your build... ever need help finding parts message me!

Thanks. Ive got a dual core right now and thats why im looking to upgrade. As for the GPU, im trying to get a fairly well priced one that could give me a couple years usage at max and that one should do. As for sockets, ive checked and everything seems to work out fine.

EDIT - I've updated the OP with a new list of components ive looked at from suggestions and my own preference. Adds up to around £550 with new RAM as well.
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12/08/2013 1:00 pm
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You do not need an I5 or I7, I recommend a dual or quad core i3 or get an AMD Do some research into it but the case is up to you haha! What ever floats your boat... Also your graphics card is okay depending on what you want to play because they vary from £50/75$ - £2000/2200$ or so 8GB RAM is perfect for running a gaming PC + Your motherboard has to have the right socket to fit the processor so you will need a compatible one... Good luck with your build... ever need help finding parts message me!
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12/08/2013 12:52 pm
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The new CPU, motherboard, GPU, and case will work fine together. However, if your RAM is really running at 399 mhz then it is not compatible with your new motherboard.Your current hard drive should be compatible with your new computer though I would get a new 1 Tb drive ASAP.

Yeh, the RAM is technically running at 800mhz because its dual channel so its not good but its not horrendous. Ill probably buy some 1600mhz though just to be futureproof.
You will have to get new RAM. The lowest the motherboard you want can support is 1066 mhz.
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ElycinPrice to performance ratio wise, an FX-6300($120) Can top all i3/i5's, for an high end build, go for i7, but your just going to get Hyperthreading, if you have a higher budget, go for the i5/i7's for performance.

For GPU, Stick with the R9 Series, The OpenCL Performance is massive

If i get an amd card i wont be able to use PhysX right? That could be annoying.

Nope, no PhysX with AMD GPUs.
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12/08/2013 12:41 pm
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If you just want to do gaming, AMD may be the way to go. Their cards are cheaper, and most next gen games will be optimized for AMD due to its adoption in the new consoles. If you want to do heavyweight simulation (e.g. animation, fluid dynamics, population-based statistics, material analysis, etc.), Definitely go with intel, probably i7.
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12/08/2013 11:11 am
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Price to performance ratio wise, an FX-6300($120) Can top all i3/i5's, for an high end build, go for i7, but your just going to get Hyperthreading, if you have a higher budget, go for the i5/i7's for performance.

For GPU, Stick with the R9 Series, The OpenCL Performance is massive
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12/08/2013 9:45 am
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If you can afford that upgrade it's perfectly fine. Gonna' be running games VERY well.
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12/07/2013 3:12 pm
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Randomness3333
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You need to upgrade your CPU, motherboard, RAM, and GPU. The hard drive is usable but i would still recommend upgrading it. Personally i would say go with the i5-4670k instead of the 3570k. If you get the new case as well, these parts add up to about £500.
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12/08/2013 7:55 am
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AliksZander
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Looked around at what i need and it seems im going to need that stuff and possibly even a new case, however i think im just going to stick with the 760 because its fairly cheap and has ACX cooling as well. Its got great reviews. I just need someone to say whether or not all the components have the right sockets etc.
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12/08/2013 9:40 am
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The new CPU, motherboard, GPU, and case will work fine together. However, if your RAM is really running at 399 mhz then it is not compatible with your new motherboard.Your current hard drive should be compatible with your new computer though I would get a new 1 Tb drive ASAP.
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12/08/2013 10:24 am
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Yeh, the RAM is technically running at 800mhz because its dual channel so its not good but its not horrendous. Ill probably buy some 1600mhz though just to be futureproof.

IronyIngotIf you can afford that upgrade it's perfectly fine. Gonna' be running games VERY well.

Cool thanks, with the fiber i'm getting soon my gaming experience should be awesome!
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12/07/2013 12:47 pm
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Daym your current PC really sucks. Look into 8gb 1600/1866mhz ram and AMD R9s are looking good for GPUs
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12/08/2013 9:46 am
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R9's are very noisey, but most people don't mind.
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12/07/2013 7:21 am
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also just as a standard I'd recommend 8gb 1600mhz ddr3 ram (like 2x4gb).
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12/07/2013 7:20 am
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Bro as a guy who has literally just structured an entire pc ten mins before I saw this post, I would wholly recommend an AMD cpu, and a next gen AMD card for graphics, such as the r9 280x, it is about £16 more than the one you are looking at, but it is very future proof and you wouldnt have to start looking to change it for about three years. If you wanna talk to me more about it dont hesitate to inbox me about it or whatever
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12/06/2013 11:02 pm
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Randomness3333
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You might as well start an entire new build. You would have to get a new copy of your OS with your new motherboard anyways. How much can you spend on this upgrade?
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12/08/2013 10:52 am
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That's only if it's an OEM OS, like if he bought a Dell or HP computer.

Although, this is probably the case, so he would need to get a new OS if he wanted to keep this upgrade legal.
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12/08/2013 12:33 pm
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AliksZander
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As said my parents bought a copy of 8.1 so i should be fine in the OS regard.

ElycinPrice to performance ratio wise, an FX-6300($120) Can top all i3/i5's, for an high end build, go for i7, but your just going to get Hyperthreading, if you have a higher budget, go for the i5/i7's for performance.

For GPU, Stick with the R9 Series, The OpenCL Performance is massive

If i get an amd card i wont be able to use PhysX right? That could be annoying.
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12/07/2013 7:06 am
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AliksZander
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Ive got a copy of windows 8.1 already to install but my budget isnt close to enough for an entirely new build.
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12/07/2013 11:45 am
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What is that budget?
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12/07/2013 12:43 pm
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AliksZander
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Just over £400 at the moment for upgrades
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12/06/2013 6:12 pm
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xer0Those parts are a good choice, and yes your RAM is very slow. The average speed of DDR3 is 1866 MHz, although you can buy kits clocked into the 2100 range, and even some bleeding edge kits that get into the 3000 MHz range. (Price isn't worth it ATM, though.)

ForeverJusticeDont get i5, get i7, it's a huge difference.. Rest looks good, 8GB ram is fine


As for the cpu, i5 is fine for gaming, no need to go for an i7 unless you really need the extra benefits of Hyper-threading, it's a waste if all you're going to do is game. But if you're doing video rendering, or some other CPU intensive activity, then i7 is the way to go.

Yeh ive been looking over the differences and for the price tag the i5 should do me ok. Plus its a top end i5 which should be great.
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12/06/2013 3:37 pm
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AliksZander
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xer0Those parts are a good choice, and yes your RAM is very slow. The average speed of DDR3 is 1866 MHz, although you can buy kits clocked into the 2100 range, and even some bleeding edge kits that get into the 3000 MHz range. (Price isn't worth it ATM, though.)

ForeverJusticeDont get i5, get i7, it's a huge difference.. Rest looks good, 8GB ram is fine


As for the cpu, i5 is fine for gaming, no need to go for an i7 unless you really need the extra benefits of Hyper-threading, it's a waste if all you're going to do is game. But if you're doing video rendering, or some other CPU intensive activity, then i7 is the way to go.

You can't even get DDR3 Ram that is 399MHz, just saying.

Isnt it 800mhz overall since its DDR RAM?
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12/06/2013 3:33 pm
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xer0Those parts are a good choice, and yes your RAM is very slow. The average speed of DDR3 is 1866 MHz, although you can buy kits clocked into the 2100 range, and even some bleeding edge kits that get into the 3000 MHz range. (Price isn't worth it ATM, though.)

ForeverJusticeDont get i5, get i7, it's a huge difference.. Rest looks good, 8GB ram is fine


As for the cpu, i5 is fine for gaming, no need to go for an i7 unless you really need the extra benefits of Hyper-threading, it's a waste if all you're going to do is game. But if you're doing video rendering, or some other CPU intensive activity, then i7 is the way to go.

You can't even get DDR3 Ram that is 399MHz, just saying.
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12/06/2013 3:24 pm
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Those parts are a good choice, and yes your RAM is very slow. The average speed of DDR3 is 1866 MHz, although you can buy kits clocked into the 2100 range, and even some bleeding edge kits that get into the 3000 MHz range. (Price isn't worth it ATM, though.)

ForeverJusticeDont get i5, get i7, it's a huge difference.. Rest looks good, 8GB ram is fine


As for the cpu, i5 is fine for gaming, no need to go for an i7 unless you really need the extra benefits of Hyper-threading, it's a waste if all you're going to do is game. But if you're doing video rendering, or some other CPU intensive activity, then i7 is the way to go.
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12/06/2013 2:40 pm
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Dont get i5, get i7, it's a huge difference.. Rest looks good, 8GB ram is fine
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12/06/2013 2:45 pm
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it just adds hyperthreading
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12/06/2013 2:36 pm
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Your ram nees a definite upgrade, Try for G.SKILL Snipers/Ripjaws or Some Corsair Vengances
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12/06/2013 2:33 pm
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