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Are creepers plants like mat pat says? (Lore)

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created 10/11/2019 11:07 am by Makaneek
last reply 10/17/2019 10:41 pm
Are they plants or not?

My opinion: Creepers cannot possibly be plants because all plants require sunlight, and creepers mostly live in the dark. The spore-explosion thing makes some sense though.
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10/17/2019 10:36 pm
Level 37 : Artisan Fish
CHorse
Creepers might have been plants at one point (Notch era type dealio) and the reason they only appeared in nighttime is basically their time to roam; I mean, if a plant is in a spot with sunlight obviously it won't go hunt for sunlight because it's kinda in an ideal spot. So a creeper might pop out sorta like a slime mold. All the lil spores get together to make a big spore. I see other people who confirm it's a creature with the minecraft book, but I'd need to see some dates with that. I have a feeling somewhere it was a plant but after a while they decided to ditch that idear.

So canonically, no they're not plants, maybe at one point? but no they arent anymore.

My thoughts despite cannon:

Who cares? Clearly you because you bothered to click on it xD Even if you hate this discussion considering it has an emotional impact enough on you to warrant a response means that it does matter a bit to you. Unless you meant it as in 'it doesn't matter which one it is' in which case you're absolutely right.

They're not plants! That picture showing the anatomy is pretty flippin stupid xD not gonna lie. I know minecraft isn't renowned for its accuracy but . .. a TNT strapped inside the creeper? xDDDD the bone structure's also a bit wonky but that's more nitpicky Maybe true but still flippin stupid xD

They're plants! I wish. and notch definitely thinks so; and the argument 'let people make their own guesses' instead of letting notch's opinion being used as evidence is a rather old rhetoric. Yes, some parts can be left to imagination but here it's more or less the equivalent of cutting out Thanos's origin story and being instructed to imagine his backstory. Yes it's not 100% important to the narrative but leaving it up to people is sort of like the steven universe or JJ abrams version of a good mystery xD

But hey that's just my thoughts. And if my thoughts make you compelled enough to say a thing or two go for it man. Altho if you disagree with my thoughts on the anatomy of a creeper then I'll send you a diagram of the ghast anatomy designed the same way. (and let me just tell you in advance, it's not tooooo pretty xD) or pretty much anything else. (seriously can you imagine a pig containing a small smoke machine and a pre-made porkchop inside of him? or a parrot with a noteblock in his head?)
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10/17/2019 10:41 pm
Level 32 : Artisan Loremaster
Makaneek
I agree completely, but I wanna see the ghast diagram anyway.


You know I like my lore...
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10/17/2019 4:58 pm
Level 3 : Apprentice Miner
Luis_Ur
I'll have to find that book, head lore wise I though it would be fun to tie Creepers to bats, as some sort of dark magically induced beings from bat guano, which used to be used in old dynamite recipes. Though the fact they have bones and a heart does make that less likely unless they were some sort of converted zombie.
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10/17/2019 3:11 pm
Level 11 : Journeyman Explorer
MinerBraden
I dont care as long as they dont kill me and steal my stuff
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10/16/2019 11:47 amhistory
Level 10 : Journeyman Crafter
Van_Goo
They not plants. I say this because its already confirmed that creepers have bones and a whole bone structure. This was confirmed in a Minecraft Book, called "Minecraft: Mobestiary" that shows a Creeper and how looks inside of them.
And, we can see how the Creeper have a skull, bones, a HEART and even a TNT Block inside of them.

Also, yes. the mobestiary is a official Minecraft book

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10/17/2019 8:29 pmhistory
Level 21 : Expert Theorist
Nocturn_Adrift
>be aware, too, of the charged creeper with it's glowing green aura

unreliable throw it in the fire
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10/17/2019 4:12 pm
Level 32 : Artisan Loremaster
Makaneek
This is the absolutely best Minecraft book ever. Although I haven't read the lost journals yet, so my opinion could change.
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10/16/2019 12:03 pm
Level 12 : Journeyman Artist
LaPandaBlasee
damn ! now i kinda want this book !
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10/17/2019 4:13 pm
Level 32 : Artisan Loremaster
Makaneek
Buy it. you won't regret it.
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10/16/2019 2:10 pmhistory
Level 32 : Artisan Pokemon
JediJerboa
It’s clear to me that since there has been a lot development in Minecraft since MatPat’s original video, not many points stand true. What I believe is that TNT block you see is an organ used to store vital minerals for combustion. The the components of gunpowder consist of carbon, potassium nitrate, and sulfur, the former being found in plants. Sulfur, however, can only be found mainly in mineral form, thus explaining why creepers can be found so far underground, since they need this mineral to keep up its defenses. And what do you know, lapis lazuli has sulfur in it, albeit very little. This is probably why you don’t find it as often. When it senses danger, its heart rate goes so fast that it causes friction near the bones, thus creating a heat source that ignited the TNT. By stopping the heart (i.e killing it), you stop the friction from occurring.


So yeah, they’re animals with a mineral-filled diet.
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10/16/2019 5:09 pm
Level 29 : Expert Fish
TheOfficialDerp
I do believe that creepers are not plants but Notch (The game creator) imagined them being a pile of leaves or something like that
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10/16/2019 12:02 pm
Level 12 : Journeyman Artist
LaPandaBlasee
i think that theory doesn't make much sense lol, it's obvious that they are creatures that can walk and do what they want, unlike plants.
we might be able to call creepers animals more than plants ? but yeah they are beings with a mind of their own to me
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10/16/2019 11:10 am
Level 19 : Journeyman Birb
dreamCritting123
Creeper, Aww m-


no,

no I wont do that
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10/11/2019 3:09 pm
Level 43 : Master Archer
LemilasTheElf
They seem a lot more like animals to me. However, according to the Minecraft Wiki, Notch stated, "I imagine [creepers] as being made out of leaves or similar." Which sounds a lot more like plants. I guess I'm not sure what to think.

Link to Minecraft Wiki article
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10/11/2019 3:23 pm
Level 32 : Artisan Loremaster
Makaneek
I don't think notch's opinion matters quite as much as people think it does. Players should form their own educated opinions.
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10/11/2019 7:54 pmhistory
Level 21 : Expert Theorist
Nocturn_Adrift
Wasn't Notch's comments in response to the question of how a creeper feels rather than what Creepers are?
Looking into it, there were two questions posted to him that were quite similar.
LemilasTheElf was correct in that Notch stated on Twitter that:
>I imagine [creepers] as being made out of leaves or similar. I'm not sure why they explode.
There was also another question that asked what a creeper would feel like if they were touched, where he said:
>I've imagined them as being crunchy, like dry leaves.

I would imagine this has a few reasonable implications depending on how you look at it:
1. Creepers are in fact, "made of leaves or something similar" in its entirety, and really only function on a magical state, or spiritual possession. This makes sense considering that it's arguable the Snow Golem is like that.
2. Creepers have integumentary systems (skin) that are made of grass-like material, this makes sense because certain organisms in our world have imitation mechanics like this, and biologically this is possible.

I would say option #2 is canon because official merchandise ordained by Mojang has repeatly supported that Creepers have skeletons [here] and [here].
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10/11/2019 8:05 pm
Level 15 : Journeyman Pig
myrtlehuggy
some plants grow in the dark
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10/11/2019 8:09 pmhistory
Level 32 : Artisan Loremaster
Makaneek
any examples? (If you put creeper then I swear...)
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10/17/2019 8:30 pm
Level 21 : Expert Theorist
Nocturn_Adrift
Don't do it don't say the C word
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10/11/2019 7:56 pm
Level 17 : Journeyman Artist
God_Oh_War
Just put I dont care xD
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10/11/2019 2:33 pm
Level 4 : Apprentice Explorer
RacoonMaster
who cares Xd but in some sense i guess they'd be animals because they would've "realistically" evolved from the same species as the pig.
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10/11/2019 3:24 pm
Level 32 : Artisan Loremaster
Makaneek
I imagine creepers to be reptilian, with one or two insectoid features.
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10/11/2019 11:31 am
Level 42 : Master Strawberry
memora
creepers were meant to be pigs

which are animals so uhh
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10/11/2019 11:26 am
Level 18 : Journeyman Skinner
Hardcrafter
Why do they drop gunpowder if they're plants? As far as I know, gunpowder isn't made of any plant-based materials. If Mojang did want to go the plant/spore route, wouldn't they just have the Creepers drop spores or some other plant based ignition source? Also, the only way the explosion of spores thing makes sense is if it's a defence mechanism, but it appears that rather than a simple defence, Creepers actively try to kill you, and it just so happens that their method of attack is suicide bombing. In addition to that point, why would it be necessary for the Creeper to kill itself to release its spores? Finally if they are meant to be spores why doesn't the explosion of one Creeper not spawn more? Spores generally are also a source of reproduction for plants that use them.
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10/11/2019 11:31 am
Level 32 : Artisan Loremaster
Makaneek
I'm not saying they do use spores, I just think it's an interesting theory, even though there's not much evidence. sorry if I was unclear.
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10/11/2019 11:34 am
Level 18 : Journeyman Skinner
Hardcrafter
That's fine, I was just doing a full analysis of the theory.
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10/11/2019 11:11 amhistory
Level 15 : Journeyman Cake
Ender_N3ptune
I belive they are a plant that requires the light from the moon instead of the sun and a lot of plants dont require very much sun at all
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10/11/2019 11:36 amhistory
Level 32 : Artisan Loremaster
Makaneek
While it is technically possible for a plant to photosynthesize in moonlight, It would need to always be outside to collect enough. And creepers spend plenty of time underground, which challenges this greatly.

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