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If you don't like recent updates, read this
To people who don't like the new updates and prefer the "good old ones"
What prevents you from playing the "good old" versions of the game (except if you're on bedrock)
I am myself still regularly playing in 1.12.2 and even if i don't like everything made in recent updates, it isn't much of a problem if i can still play 1.12.2
So i'm asking you, why hatin on new updates if you can just play the old versions?
What prevents you from playing the "good old" versions of the game (except if you're on bedrock)
I am myself still regularly playing in 1.12.2 and even if i don't like everything made in recent updates, it isn't much of a problem if i can still play 1.12.2
So i'm asking you, why hatin on new updates if you can just play the old versions?
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From what I've came to think, for the people who brag about the 'lost soul of minecraft', the issue mostly stems from two things:
they'd felt when Minecraft was the most prominent thing of their lives or something they've used to bond with other people - simply because they stopped catching up on the game due to some external circumstances - starting from finding some other games to play to finding a job, getting a partner, or maybe some other drastic event that altered their routine, you name it.
Doesn't mean that you can't play minecraft while having a job or a partner, but you definitely have to reprioritize your time, and the less time you spend with the game will over the course of time create an idea of the game that you've played - a funky beaverage of some parts of the actual games, vibes, memories and a pinch of herbs. This is where the issue leaves the dimension of the game and goes to the den of personal matter, where it's basically going to become impossible to solve the way you'd think of it as an issue.
The thing is: the beavarage you'll be left sitting with will gradually be something that will get removed from the front 'hot' section of menu and will get tossed onto the 'classics' page, somewhere closer to the back. It's a completely natural thing for a game like Minecraft, and continuing to speaking figuratively, no one's ditching your favourite beaverage from the menu itself - you can still order it whenever you want it, though it might not taste that good as you remember it because there's the beavarage and an idea of the beaverage. Though the most important thing is that over the course of time you'll probably be the only one ordering that same beaverage, coming back to the place in the exact spot and time. You might not find all the guys you've spent time with going for that beavarage around anymore. You won't really have a lot of people to talk about that beaverage about with, you will have less an less people who get the context of it all. The newcomers will be enjoying the 'hot' stuff, people that you see and probably people around you will mostly stick to the ever updated 'hot' section for the wish of trying things out - just like you did back in your time - they may or may not form a specific bond to some beaverages from the section like you did - they don't really talk about that ancient beaverage that much anymore, the discourse, the meta, everything new and gradually all the other shiny things move on to the newest row of beaverages, but by and large those other people will just be in there for a good time. While you're out there looking for the same kick you felt (or that you presume to have felt) way back when you tasted that beaverage. This feeling will likely alianate you from all other people, and if you choose to go after this feeling, then, well, good luck gazing at that beavarage at end of the bar counter. At this point, nothing but your ego and this feeling prevents you from just stepping from the counter and having a good time in this newer community like everybody else, but here's the dealbreaker:
I certainly did have fun playing newer versions with a number of people I knew. It wasn't the absolute best experience of my life, but I certainly can't say I disliked it. Though I mostly never really did that because I really wanted to play Minecraft but instead because I just wanted to have some time with those guys, and Minecraft was coincidentally a thing I like to play. Mechanically, I think I enjoyed Minecraft the most when I was a teen. I remember what amazement I felt when I first learned how to install mods, I remember the warmth of sitting with my friend over a splitscreen in a creative world on xbox360, I remember how I went crying to my parents because I accidentaly deleted a world I was building in back when I was 13. I remember playing annihilation on some big servers, and how tense it always ended up. I remember the breeze of adventure when I last went on to play in modded survival when I was 18. I remember the 6 years I spent making machinimas, mostly on minecraft 1.12.2 I remember that last time I went to a local server of guys I knew before the day russia invaded my homeland, and we never really communicated anymore since.
You see how this quickly spiraled into the category of things I relate to and things I feel, not really a lot for the things Minecraft does as a game just on its own, because when you think of it through the prism of your own past in order to compare it you diverge from seeing it solely as a game - for you it's now something larger, far more intricate and intimate. It's a lot about the conditions and circumstances you can no longer replicate. Ultimately, it boils down to the classic issue of human adaptation in context of neverending motion. I miss the times where I had not yet learnt the meta of everything in Minecraft, I miss logging in with people that aren't part of my life anymore, I miss the feeling of novelty and obscurity that came with the internet yet undevoured by the perpetual petty drama, corporations and radicalization, I miss letting myself spend hours to build some stupid little things, a whole ton of stuff I miss that doesn't have anything to do with Minecraft at all, but the association between Minecraft and all of those things will always be immeasurably more powerful within human brain circuitry than any sound judgement and objective reasoning.
The important thing is to recognize that you feel that way and make peace with it. I miss all of those things, but it's good they happened and they were there to cheer me when I felt like giving up, and that now I still have some of them to chuckle on. And if other people, if people younger than me can get basically the same joy I had playing Minecraft in their age, then, well, great, yes, do that absolutely and play to your heart's content. It's just that the time passed for me and will never return, I believe a lot of people feel that way but due to the lack of skill in expressing it, they go on the internet and rant about grass loosing its color over time. Though it's mostly true that you likely won't have a lot of luck trying to feel as great as you did when first attempting any thing at all (playing Minceraft included), you don't have to view it in just this way.
When I began reading the Republic by Plato, I was struck by a character of an old man who was asked by Socrates what can he tell his company about the old age. The man responded that he witnessed a lot of old people complaining that they no longer have the looks, the strength, the potence and all those other wonders of young age. But the old man did not share the sentiment. And for him getting rid of those traits of the youth, getting rid of all the emotional and hormonal peril was a blessing - now he was at last free to do all the other things.
I'm really not that old, but I share this argument towards a number of things. So uhm. Enjoy things when you're young, and when they pass, there will be other things to enjoy. Of course with age there will be more things we don't like, but that's because when we're little our parents bear those things instead. And with age we become kinda even with them.
Just don't try to cling to it all too much. If summed up with all systems our planet belongs to, in absolute we're moving at a speed of 357 miles per second, which describes the pace of our world pretty great imo. At this rate, I don't really care which mechanics mojang did bad and what I'd like to see in a game. I either like it and play it for a change, or I go and do the other things I like to do. The winds are blowing, so take care.
- failing to rekindle the sense of belonging and community
they'd felt when Minecraft was the most prominent thing of their lives or something they've used to bond with other people - simply because they stopped catching up on the game due to some external circumstances - starting from finding some other games to play to finding a job, getting a partner, or maybe some other drastic event that altered their routine, you name it.
Doesn't mean that you can't play minecraft while having a job or a partner, but you definitely have to reprioritize your time, and the less time you spend with the game will over the course of time create an idea of the game that you've played - a funky beaverage of some parts of the actual games, vibes, memories and a pinch of herbs. This is where the issue leaves the dimension of the game and goes to the den of personal matter, where it's basically going to become impossible to solve the way you'd think of it as an issue.
The thing is: the beavarage you'll be left sitting with will gradually be something that will get removed from the front 'hot' section of menu and will get tossed onto the 'classics' page, somewhere closer to the back. It's a completely natural thing for a game like Minecraft, and continuing to speaking figuratively, no one's ditching your favourite beaverage from the menu itself - you can still order it whenever you want it, though it might not taste that good as you remember it because there's the beavarage and an idea of the beaverage. Though the most important thing is that over the course of time you'll probably be the only one ordering that same beaverage, coming back to the place in the exact spot and time. You might not find all the guys you've spent time with going for that beavarage around anymore. You won't really have a lot of people to talk about that beaverage about with, you will have less an less people who get the context of it all. The newcomers will be enjoying the 'hot' stuff, people that you see and probably people around you will mostly stick to the ever updated 'hot' section for the wish of trying things out - just like you did back in your time - they may or may not form a specific bond to some beaverages from the section like you did - they don't really talk about that ancient beaverage that much anymore, the discourse, the meta, everything new and gradually all the other shiny things move on to the newest row of beaverages, but by and large those other people will just be in there for a good time. While you're out there looking for the same kick you felt (or that you presume to have felt) way back when you tasted that beaverage. This feeling will likely alianate you from all other people, and if you choose to go after this feeling, then, well, good luck gazing at that beavarage at end of the bar counter. At this point, nothing but your ego and this feeling prevents you from just stepping from the counter and having a good time in this newer community like everybody else, but here's the dealbreaker:
- being unable to replicate the context that made Minecraft such a great memory.
I certainly did have fun playing newer versions with a number of people I knew. It wasn't the absolute best experience of my life, but I certainly can't say I disliked it. Though I mostly never really did that because I really wanted to play Minecraft but instead because I just wanted to have some time with those guys, and Minecraft was coincidentally a thing I like to play. Mechanically, I think I enjoyed Minecraft the most when I was a teen. I remember what amazement I felt when I first learned how to install mods, I remember the warmth of sitting with my friend over a splitscreen in a creative world on xbox360, I remember how I went crying to my parents because I accidentaly deleted a world I was building in back when I was 13. I remember playing annihilation on some big servers, and how tense it always ended up. I remember the breeze of adventure when I last went on to play in modded survival when I was 18. I remember the 6 years I spent making machinimas, mostly on minecraft 1.12.2 I remember that last time I went to a local server of guys I knew before the day russia invaded my homeland, and we never really communicated anymore since.
You see how this quickly spiraled into the category of things I relate to and things I feel, not really a lot for the things Minecraft does as a game just on its own, because when you think of it through the prism of your own past in order to compare it you diverge from seeing it solely as a game - for you it's now something larger, far more intricate and intimate. It's a lot about the conditions and circumstances you can no longer replicate. Ultimately, it boils down to the classic issue of human adaptation in context of neverending motion. I miss the times where I had not yet learnt the meta of everything in Minecraft, I miss logging in with people that aren't part of my life anymore, I miss the feeling of novelty and obscurity that came with the internet yet undevoured by the perpetual petty drama, corporations and radicalization, I miss letting myself spend hours to build some stupid little things, a whole ton of stuff I miss that doesn't have anything to do with Minecraft at all, but the association between Minecraft and all of those things will always be immeasurably more powerful within human brain circuitry than any sound judgement and objective reasoning.
The important thing is to recognize that you feel that way and make peace with it. I miss all of those things, but it's good they happened and they were there to cheer me when I felt like giving up, and that now I still have some of them to chuckle on. And if other people, if people younger than me can get basically the same joy I had playing Minecraft in their age, then, well, great, yes, do that absolutely and play to your heart's content. It's just that the time passed for me and will never return, I believe a lot of people feel that way but due to the lack of skill in expressing it, they go on the internet and rant about grass loosing its color over time. Though it's mostly true that you likely won't have a lot of luck trying to feel as great as you did when first attempting any thing at all (playing Minceraft included), you don't have to view it in just this way.
When I began reading the Republic by Plato, I was struck by a character of an old man who was asked by Socrates what can he tell his company about the old age. The man responded that he witnessed a lot of old people complaining that they no longer have the looks, the strength, the potence and all those other wonders of young age. But the old man did not share the sentiment. And for him getting rid of those traits of the youth, getting rid of all the emotional and hormonal peril was a blessing - now he was at last free to do all the other things.
I'm really not that old, but I share this argument towards a number of things. So uhm. Enjoy things when you're young, and when they pass, there will be other things to enjoy. Of course with age there will be more things we don't like, but that's because when we're little our parents bear those things instead. And with age we become kinda even with them.
Just don't try to cling to it all too much. If summed up with all systems our planet belongs to, in absolute we're moving at a speed of 357 miles per second, which describes the pace of our world pretty great imo. At this rate, I don't really care which mechanics mojang did bad and what I'd like to see in a game. I either like it and play it for a change, or I go and do the other things I like to do. The winds are blowing, so take care.
I believe most people who express their opinion on "Not liking the recent updates" mean it as in how the content they get isn't as fulfilling as some other updates.
Which is mostly caused by updates 1.14 and 1.16, They were super good and rich with content that it set the scale too high for smaller updates to thrive.
In my opinion, From a content side. Latest updates are average - decent, 1.21 With the trial chambers was a really decent update. Pale gardens are really nice too.
BUT, From a TECHNICAL side (As someone who cares about those a lot), 1.20.5+ updates are literally my love, So much technical possibilities unlocked and the datapack'ing (And partly modding) communities are looking forward for more.
Which is mostly caused by updates 1.14 and 1.16, They were super good and rich with content that it set the scale too high for smaller updates to thrive.
In my opinion, From a content side. Latest updates are average - decent, 1.21 With the trial chambers was a really decent update. Pale gardens are really nice too.
BUT, From a TECHNICAL side (As someone who cares about those a lot), 1.20.5+ updates are literally my love, So much technical possibilities unlocked and the datapack'ing (And partly modding) communities are looking forward for more.
i def agree, but there is still people complaining abt, idk, the "new" textures (1.14 is startin to get old) or the fact that the game nowadays is "too complicated " and that it "lost its soul"(btw it's probably nostalgia more than anything else i think, which is understandable) It was mostly for these people that i was talking here. but still i agree
Na those weren't the people I was referring to,
If you meant those then Yes I agree. Go play the older versions.. or wait for minecraft 2 :)
If you meant those then Yes I agree. Go play the older versions.. or wait for minecraft 2 :)
Agreed.
I mean, the current Minecraft version is 1.21.4 (since a few days) and yet my gf & me are still very happily playing 1.20.1 for this whole year and we have no intention of upgrading any time soon. Instead we plan on resetting our world next year to start over, but this time with all mods active from the getgo (we added a few during our game, which means that you need to hop into new chunks to find any new worldgen features).
I mean, the current Minecraft version is 1.21.4 (since a few days) and yet my gf & me are still very happily playing 1.20.1 for this whole year and we have no intention of upgrading any time soon. Instead we plan on resetting our world next year to start over, but this time with all mods active from the getgo (we added a few during our game, which means that you need to hop into new chunks to find any new worldgen features).
