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Netherite is overrated, change my mind
piecraft09
you make make armour and tools with it, but that's it
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Netherite is good for flexing
Netherite is less overrated for me, maybe you should try armor trims instead of boring normal Netherite or Diamond armor
Better than diamond in durability and looks, also "you can make armor and tools with it, but that's it" you could turn it into blocks and build with it if you like :D
Good for gothic/dark aesthetics and not much else imo.
Yes I know it's better than diamond statistics-wise so "objectively" (whatever that means) it's better, but like I don't really die from mobs in survival even when I'm not wearing ANY armour, not unless it's like a raid or if I angered a group of endermen or something crazy.
Which means Netherite is really only useful for me in pvp scenarios, which I avoid it cause pvp is like super boring and slow in Netherite, but unless I know the person they're prolly gonna be wearing it so to stand a chance I have to use it too!
Which means we're stuck attacking eachother for upwards of TWO WHOLE HOURS until our armour finally breaks or one of us slips up and forgets to eat or gets too greedy and thinks the other person is low and so they risk going for extra hits instead of eating or healing armour---
So like, don't exactly love netherite but in some situations it's cool. Not for pvp though, pvp in netherite just makes me sad, it's like if I decided to break a hole in a brick wall by using my mind to burn a hole through the stone! Like yes I could do it, but to conjour up that much energy would take months, and I'd be so bored at staring at the wall for so long that I'd rather do ANYTHING else instead. :(
Yes I know it's better than diamond statistics-wise so "objectively" (whatever that means) it's better, but like I don't really die from mobs in survival even when I'm not wearing ANY armour, not unless it's like a raid or if I angered a group of endermen or something crazy.
Which means Netherite is really only useful for me in pvp scenarios, which I avoid it cause pvp is like super boring and slow in Netherite, but unless I know the person they're prolly gonna be wearing it so to stand a chance I have to use it too!
Which means we're stuck attacking eachother for upwards of TWO WHOLE HOURS until our armour finally breaks or one of us slips up and forgets to eat or gets too greedy and thinks the other person is low and so they risk going for extra hits instead of eating or healing armour---
So like, don't exactly love netherite but in some situations it's cool. Not for pvp though, pvp in netherite just makes me sad, it's like if I decided to break a hole in a brick wall by using my mind to burn a hole through the stone! Like yes I could do it, but to conjour up that much energy would take months, and I'd be so bored at staring at the wall for so long that I'd rather do ANYTHING else instead. :(
Well it is a part of progression and netherite gear is naturally better than diamond, so there is no way you can really overrate it.
The one thing i can agree on is that aside from gear it's useless, unlike diamonds/iron that have far more ways to utilize them.
The one thing i can agree on is that aside from gear it's useless, unlike diamonds/iron that have far more ways to utilize them.
Agreed, but... what about the time/reward progression? It's "better", but how much? Not that big of a deal all things considered.
I'd say it's fine. Durabilty boost is noticable (although you want to use mending anyway), armor set provides you not only with armor toughness boost, but also with a knockback reduction. Not to mention that netherite gear doesn't burn, which saves the day sometimes. I just wish netherite had more ways to use it.
im not the biggest fan in the world of how it looks, doesnt stand out against the hotbar like the bright blue and iconic diamond weapons. yknow what would be cool? tool trims.
Doesn't it mine deepslate a tiny bit faster?
Yes (although still slightly slower than a gold pick), but — even with Haste2 & Efficiency5 — deepslate can't be insta-mined (unless the newest versions have fiddled things).
The speed difference isn't something on'es likely to notice unless paying very close attention…
The speed difference isn't something on'es likely to notice unless paying very close attention…
Your right, Netherites benefits are a middling amount compared to its rarity and hardness to get. The only real reason to get netherite is if you want to flex on your friends.
I can't. I've always been an iron-only user. It's plentiful, easy to get ahold of, and because I don't really die a lot, I don't see why I should put the time into looking for anything better. Now, if there were different tiers of shields that added additional functions the higher the tier (and preferably also had an aesthetic change), then I'd consider actually looking for something else. Like if Mojang added a feature where you could hold up a "netherite shield" to block and press the attack button, and that used the shield itself as a weapon, then hell yeah, I be all over that! Because it serves an additional purpose -- giving you the ability to protect yourself and attack simultaneously, instead of having to choose one or the other. Maybe you could even enchant the shield with knockback to put some distance between you and what's attacking
Interesting ideas re shields: maybe nerf the base version to something like a targe and allow progression up to something like a scutum although I'd reather the appewarance/shape were cosmetic and divorced from the tier (maybe by using somthing like the armor trim system).
(Somewhat surprised you don't go to diamond armor, particularly if you're using one of the more recent releases where one can just trade for it.)
(Somewhat surprised you don't go to diamond armor, particularly if you're using one of the more recent releases where one can just trade for it.)
It’s true, the difference between full dia and full neth is ridiculous considering how incredibly hard it is to get just a few debris. I wouldn’t necessarily say its overrrated, netherite is super useful especially if your prone to constant dying (like me) and on pvp servers and such. but i do agree that the process to get it is way harder than how much it’s worth.
nobody overrating it or underrating it its not like theres an alternative for it to be compared to, its just the best armor/tool
Best, but not really by much. The mining process that you have to get it, is TERRIBLY designed. It's like if you had to strip-mine for diamonds through the lava level to get 1/4 of a diamond per ore. Its so tortuous and un-fun that its basically requires the use big redstone machines or beds
absolutely, i think it should be buffed
"… its just the best armor/tool"
True, but I think the question being discussed is whether netherite gear lives up to its 'hype' i.e. does the marginal advantage of having it justify the value it's commonly assigned?
True, but I think the question being discussed is whether netherite gear lives up to its 'hype' i.e. does the marginal advantage of having it justify the value it's commonly assigned?
makes sense, but i havent seen anyone praising netherite or anything. if youre playing minecraft for a long time might as well get it, the durability does make a decent difference imo if youre playing survival a lot. i just think overrated isnt the right word. in fact i think the common consensus is that it is not as good as it should be, but that wouldnt make me answer yes or no to this question
There also seems to be a range of perspectives on netherite's utility: for me the primary feature is the possibility of retrieving gear that would otherwise burn in lava rather than the greater durability or damage.
As I die rarely (and even more rarely in/near lava) the float in lava ability isn't especially attractive. Similarly, the damage increase [10% from diamond with Sharp5 & ~5% from diamond with Smite5 (swords)] doesn't seem to make a great deal of difference in play. Even the ~30% durability rating bump is something I rarely notice.
As I die rarely (and even more rarely in/near lava) the float in lava ability isn't especially attractive. Similarly, the damage increase [10% from diamond with Sharp5 & ~5% from diamond with Smite5 (swords)] doesn't seem to make a great deal of difference in play. Even the ~30% durability rating bump is something I rarely notice.
why does party comment on every single fourm
my bad
I also hate how people on server automaticaly have the stuff - even enchanted. I mostly use iron, leather armor
IDK, maybe I am a mc boomer
IDK, maybe I am a mc boomer
Which makes one wonder how it was obtained – honest work and good luck or $$P2W$$…
Almost all the minecraft guys that i see play hardcore minecraft on Java edition. And i heard that Java edition allows cheats on hardcore mode unlike bedrock. So it makes it even MORE likely that they are lying.
"I LOST MY TOTALLY REAL HARDCORE WORLD OF 40 YEARS!!" (VERY SAD)
MOM! it's supposed to be my turn with the time machine!
Barring the netherite items float on lava (until they despawn) feature I tend to agree with you, the marginal advantage over diamond seems small (although the PvP players may still find even that an important advantage).
it doesnt help that every 1.9 pvp server i find nowadays is jsut 30 minutes of clicking with protection 5 netherite and 40 healing potions and 20 totems of undying and 3 stacks of enchanted golden apple....
Netherite & common totems sound like the 1.9 has been modded to a fare thee well (or a more current vesion has had the old combat back-ported), with too little attention to bretaining playablity/balance
