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forum Discussion for the Procedural Metropolis Project Contest

This topic thread is for questions and general discussion in regards to our experimental project contest where our builds will feed a procedural generated city powered by the Infinity Project by Gheppio! Once the contest is over, many of the top submissions will be selected and populate a city generation machine that will be released for download allowing all of us to watch PMC cities grow and of course explore them! No two cities will be the same and together we'll give it a wide variety of community builds to choose from.

IMPORTANT: Read the full illustrated guidelines and rules before getting started. It will explain what the contest is about and the guidelines to follow when building your plots.





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visibility View Procedural Metropolis Project Contest Details!


FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

Where's the starter map?
Download the starter map HERE.

Is this SOLO or TEAM contest?
No. It's an open project contest. If you'd like to work with friends, you can. However, you will need to work out with your friends who gets to post it and ultimately who will get the prize should the group effort win. We don't want to discourage people from working together. We tried splitting project contests into team/solo and feel it's sending the wrong message.

Which Minecraft version do I have to build in?
Use version 1.15.x

Can I build more than six houses?
No, at the moment 6 houses, and one submission, per person is the limit.

Do I have to build interiors too?
It’s highly recommended.

Is there a specific style we should build in?
The city generation will create paved roads, so anything "Contemporary" will make sense. We wanted to keep the theme as open as possible while ultimately generating cities that will make sense.

Additional Frequently Asked Questions

Why are there slab borders and building limits in general?
Slab borders are needed for house spacing, that’s why you must leave them, and the air above them, as they are. They are on two sides only, this is correct; you can build up to the edge of the other two sides. It’s suggested to fill the surroundings of the buildings with the same slabs because that's the city's pavement, in this way the builds are better integrated into the city layout :-)

What about water, is it allowed?
In some rare cases it may cause problems when houses are placed by the structure blocks; anyway, water is allowed. If water presents glitches in the rotated instances, it will probably glitch also in the final city! If possible. Try containing water pools only with solid blocks, and not with stairs or slabs only; they're the ones which glitch the most. If not possible, replace glitching water blocks with ice that it will melt down after your house is placed. If there are still some glitches or problems, they’ll be corrected before their integration in the Infinity Matrix.

Are we allowed to incorporate command blocks and redstone into our builds?
It's better to avoid complex circuits, while they should work fine, I'm afraid that if too many people build complex circuits that "do stuff" in their build, than this will make the machine much heavier to run on low spec PCs.
I don't want to risk that some people aren't able to generate their cities with your builds included because of this problem! If you want to do a special lighting system with redstone or a teleporting elevator with command blocks it’s ok, but try to stay contained and absolutely avoid automatic machines! Your devices must be user-activated!

What about the streets? How are they made? I’d like to make a parking lot or a building with road access…
The roads are 7 blocks wide, 3 blocks per lane and 1 for the centreline. Roads are made of the grey terracotta already present in the building sites, at the same level, pavements are made of the same stone slabs of the 2-side border, at its same level.
If you’re building something that needs a road access (e.g. like a parking lot) place the road-sized entrance/access aligned with the "entrance here" passage for 1x1, 2x1, 1x3 and 2x3 plots. For 1x2 and 2x2 instead, put it on the middle of the left or right chunk. In this way I can reprogram roads so that they connect correctly to your car entrances when your builds are placed in the city!

Are the items in chests, furnaces, dispensers, etc. saved in the Infinity Matrix too?
Yes.

Can I use paintings, banners, custom player heads etc.?
As a rule of thumb, if something appears correctly also in the rotated instances, then it can be used.
Paintings and item frames sadly can’t be used for now. Banners and custom player heads work flawlessly.

Does the front door have to function, or can it be an open glass door?
It doesn't have to necessarily be a door! It's just a constraint that sets where the front of the building is, so that the engine makes your builds facing towards the roads correctly. More like a "the door should be here" indication, intend it as "people will access this area arriving from here". After that you can put the entrance you want, of even something else! For example, in the largest plot, you could even put two small buildings on the left and right side and a small plaza in the centre, that would work too!

Will my builds appear together in the final city?
The city will contain as many submissions as possible from participants, so there will be houses/buildings from different people close to each other, a city from the PMC community!
Any generated town will be different and potentially infinite, in some of them your builds will be closer, and in others more distanced, and every building integrated in the Infinity Matrix will have a defined probability to appear during the generation Process. Consider all that is being created here as a single neighbourhood!

Did Gheppio design the procedural Infinity engine by himself?
Yes.
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04/01/2020 7:20 pmhistory
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So my question on this, you say "procedural metropolis". but from what this contest entails, it seems like we're just designing a suburb. Small residential housing with basic infrastructure. Is there going to be another contest down the line involving larger structures to be added to this? like high rises, long span factories or skyscrapers? :)
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04/02/2020 12:47 pmhistory
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Cyprezz
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We are discussing future contests including a potential module skyscraper edition. He's already accomplished this himself but it's tricky to put into a format that others can follow. We're starting with the contemporary edition you see and based on reception, which already appears very good, we'll host follow ups.

New Reds Technology, Obscurum, InsanityWaffles, aqariio
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04/02/2020 9:21 pm
Level 60 : High Grandmaster Architect
JasonKingBW
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I can back that, thanks for clarification :)
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04/02/2020 1:51 pm
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New Reds Technology
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Okay!!!
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04/02/2020 8:40 am
Level 33 : Artisan Engineer
New Reds Technology
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You know... I noticed that too. I mean, I haven't seen the total space between top and bottom but, it make sense to think larger buildings will come in the future...
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04/02/2020 9:34 am
Level 39 : Artisan Loremaster
InsanityWaffles
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Yeah, the most it looks like you can build is like, a very small apartment with 3-4 floors.
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04/02/2020 10:48 am
Level 33 : Artisan Engineer
New Reds Technology
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I know... I wish we could have done bigger builds... who knows!!! maybe we'll get lucky!!!
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04/02/2020 11:56 am
Level 23 : Expert Ninja
aqariio
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Yeah, I really want to build a skyscraper or something along those lines
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04/02/2020 12:21 pm
Level 51 : Grandmaster Dragonborn
Obscurum
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I've opened the world and it's 25 or 26 blocks (height)
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04/02/2020 3:23 pm
Level 59 : Grandmaster Engineer
Gheppio
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This contest is quite out of the ordinary, and I didn't want to ask you too much (procedural skyscrapers are very difficult to design for example) and there are too many rules already, so I wanted to start with something simple enough.

Would you be interested in other events similar to this one?
Anyway, let's see first what kind of city comes out from this one! :-D

New Reds Technology Obscurum InsanityWaffles aqariio
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04/02/2020 6:51 pm
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Obscurum
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Would definitely be interested!
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04/04/2020 5:13 pm
Level 23 : Expert Ninja
aqariio
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I mean I just really want to build a giant crystal of some kind
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04/01/2020 2:07 pm
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Ruben0_0
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HYPE HYPE HYPE


Seriously, this is a damn cool idea.
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04/01/2020 3:07 pmhistory
Level 59 : Grandmaster Engineer
Gheppio
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Thank you!
Sadly you can't build beyond the given plots :(
Technically the Infinity engine can easily store more than that, but the reason is that since this is a contest, people should be judged for an equal number of plots. Because of this, the current building volume at your disposal has been fixed to something affordable for everyone (It seemed too much to me to ask people to build 12 or 24 houses XD)
In case, I suggest you to keep a "quality over quantity" approach, even a small area requires a lot of work if it's detailed! :-)
Take also a look at the examples in the starter map for inspiration!
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04/01/2020 2:25 pm
Level 32 : Artisan Cowboy
Ruben0_0
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Question: can we build more than the given 6 plots? Because with the given build limits (especially height .-.) there is not much that one can do with regards to size.
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04/01/2020 3:08 pm
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Cyprezz
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No, not for contest purposes. If you find yourself with extra time, consider adding more details to your builds.

If you have 6 more plot ideas, you can reload a fresh laboratory map, build and submit to PMC but you won't be able to enter it into the contest. If you end up liking your second set more than the first, you can always change which one is in the contest.
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04/06/2020 7:41 am
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Malitis
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My work is in progress
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04/06/2020 2:20 pm
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aqariio
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Nice!
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04/04/2020 11:27 am
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Hold up... contemporary edition? Does that mean there’s going to be more of these contests?! If so, awesome!!!
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04/01/2020 5:27 pmhistory
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MelodiousLay
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Another question: Does the world save any items in chests, furnaces, dispensers, etc. when generated in the Matrix?
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04/01/2020 6:08 pm
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Gheppio
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Yes it does!
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04/02/2020 1:55 pm
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PLEASEdeleteAccountNow
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Excellent question, I was wondering that last night as well but hadn't gotten around to asking. :D I'm glad to hear that it does!!!
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04/01/2020 5:23 pm
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MelodiousLay
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I'd love to see more contests like this in the future.
For example, maybe we could do a medieval or futuristic themed Infinity Matrix?
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04/01/2020 6:09 pm
Level 59 : Grandmaster Engineer
Gheppio
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That's absolutely possible :-D
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04/01/2020 12:28 pm
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PLEASEdeleteAccountNow
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Amazing project idea, I can't wait to see what everyone comes up with!
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04/01/2020 1:11 pm
Level 59 : Grandmaster Engineer
Gheppio
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I'm very curious too to see the final product ! A dynamic city as result of the collective effort of PMC members... an interesting skyline for sure!
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04/01/2020 1:21 pm
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PLEASEdeleteAccountNow
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Totally!!! And once the contest is over and you've chosen the entries to include in the generator...it would be epic to see you unveil them "in action" in a stream! :)
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04/01/2020 2:03 pm
Level 59 : Grandmaster Engineer
Gheppio
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Good idea! :D
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05/15/2020 9:22 am
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PLEASEdeleteAccountNow
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Gheppio this contest was amazing and actually I wish that there was one based on your generator (but with different themes each time) every few months or so. Unless you have posted it somewhere else and I have just not seen it yet (oops, my bad...but work has been super busy), could you please let us know when a map based on these finalists might be available for us to play with in our personal MC worlds? Thanks again, and for everything you've done to make this contest possible: I loved every minute of working on my entry for this, and had just as much enjoyment looking at the creations everyone else submitted, too!
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04/26/2020 11:28 am
Level 18 : Journeyman Zombie
PLEASEdeleteAccountNow
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It's absolutely amazing to see the volume and diversity of entries in this project contest, it's great!
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04/07/2020 7:45 am
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how do i join






please help :(:(:(
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04/07/2020 10:06 am
Level 59 : Grandmaster Engineer
Gheppio
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Easy!
Read the rules and the FAQs, then download the starter map where you'll have to build 6 houses/buildings.
When you have finished, prepare simply a new project here on the site, you'll have the possibility to prepare a description and upload pictures.
Below, before the save button, there should be a checkbox you have to click in case your project is a submission for the contest. After you save, your project will appear in the list of the participants :-)
Remember to read carefully the rules!
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04/02/2020 9:36 am
Level 39 : Artisan Loremaster
InsanityWaffles
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Question: Gheppio Did you design the procedural program yourself?
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04/02/2020 1:20 pm
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PMC
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We interviewed him a bit ago, when he published his first project that uses the self replicating technology, Infinity City.
Read the interview here. Quite amazing honestly :)
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04/02/2020 1:07 pm
Level 71 : Legendary Cyborg
Cyprezz
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Yes, they designed themselves. I'm not aware of anyone doing what he's accomplished.
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04/02/2020 3:41 pm
Level 59 : Grandmaster Engineer
Gheppio
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Hello InsanityWaffles!
The answer is yes!
I designed the Infinity project in all its components among with the technological field of self-replicating machines in general, it's all built in-game with structure blocks and redstone only; because of this all my creations work perfectly in vanilla minecraft!

If you want to know more, take a look at my other creations in this collection, the project descriptions will tell you more about how everything works ;-)
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05/13/2020 12:33 pmhistory
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666Ruinous
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Let me just say that this contest had my hopes high. Certainly one of the most original contests out there, we really aprpeciate @Gheppio's work in designing and hosting this contest. However the results have been, for lack of a better word, utterly disappointing. I cannot help but question the legitimacy of the results, which likewise throws shade into the judging process of all the past PMC contests.

While the first and third placers of the contest seem to well deserve their ranking and scores, I cannot fathom how the second placer could possibly be the second best among all the wonderful builds built by the other contestants.

"Technique & Execution" seems extremely subjective and biased at the moment. How could Infiniarch score 75, with a bunch of rectangular boxes, whereas eagoy's, blockcreature's, and especially JuicyBean's entries have clearly better and more well-thought-of architectural styles?

As for "Concept & Originality", how is it possible that InfinityCharly's avant-garde rainbow builds score only a 70, Koemcrete's unique Solarpunk builds scoring only 69, and blockcreature's build only scoring 68, while they are all far, far beyond the uniqueness of the second-placing build, that somehow received a 67?

I propose that judges should publicly disclose detailed justification for their ratings, and that they abide by clear, objective, and publicized rubrics when evaluating builds. This would make the judging process far more fair, and far more legitimate.
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04/19/2020 7:24 am
Level 56 : Grandmaster Lava Rider
eagoy
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Is there an minimum amount/percentage of UN-edited in-game screenshots?
If I recall correctly there was in the past a clear rule of minimal 75% stated.
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04/19/2020 4:20 pm
Level 59 : Grandmaster Engineer
Gheppio
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Nono, the usual value is 50% :)
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04/06/2020 5:06 pm
Level 42 : Master Pixel Painter
O 2
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Yes. i'll join.
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04/06/2020 5:44 pmhistory
Level 59 : Grandmaster Engineer
Gheppio
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Yay!
If you have any questions, look at the FAQ up here; if still in doubt, feel free to ask down here :-D
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04/06/2020 6:40 pm
Level 42 : Master Pixel Painter
O 2
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Ok
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04/07/2020 2:26 pm
Level 42 : Master Pixel Painter
O 2
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Are we able to make industrial themed stuff? Or is it only residential and commercial?
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04/07/2020 2:51 pm
Level 59 : Grandmaster Engineer
Gheppio
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The "contemporary" theme is very open, industrial themed builds are welcome!
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04/07/2020 7:43 pm
Level 42 : Master Pixel Painter
O 2
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Ok. Thanks for the info.
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04/06/2020 1:22 pm
Level 40 : Master Pig
BloodyComedyy
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Question: Are we allowed to remove the glass which is the building height limit? And should the signs with tips also stay where they are?
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04/06/2020 1:54 pm
Level 59 : Grandmaster Engineer
Gheppio
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The glass roof is outside the limit and won't be saved nor included in the city, everything built above it will be discarded.
The tip signs for glass roofs, slab borders and entrances won't be saved either, so you can leave them. :)
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04/06/2020 2:06 pm
Level 40 : Master Pig
BloodyComedyy
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Alright, thank you!
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04/06/2020 6:02 amhistory
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iKabyLake30
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Can I ask one more question .. what's gonna be under cyan terracota respectively instead of white concrete?

edit: and just to be sure .. roads are from gray or light gray terracota? you said in another comment that roads are from gray terracota but that looks like .... like poop so light gray terracota it is .. right? :D
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04/06/2020 8:27 am
Level 59 : Grandmaster Engineer
Gheppio
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Roads will be made of the same terracotta already present in the plots, and the centerline will be made of white concrete (take a look at roads in Infinity City)

Below the city there will be the machine :-)
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