The YouTube section should be limited to strictly Minecraft related videos.

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Ticket #6089
Opened by: LightlySaltedBuilder
Status: Open
Type:
Feature Request
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Opened:
3/8/18 12:12 am 3/8/18 12:12 am

Description

I love the idea of the new YouTube section, even though I'm not into YouTube Minecraft, it's definitely a great idea and a good way to help small channels.

However, seeing as PMC is a Minecraft site, I think it makes sense to limit the videos in the new YouTube section to only Minecraft related videos. The main reason I'm saying this is because so far I've seen a lot of videos that are not Minecraft related, and as stated before, I think this site should remain Minecraft-centered.

As an example of how many non-minecraft videos there are, when I checked the pop-reel, only three out of the nine videos were minecraft related. Also, on the first page of recently updated only 7 out of 22 videos were about minecraft. 7 Minecraft and 15 non-Minecraft videos. So there's probably about 2 non-Minecraft videos for every Minecraft video there is currently.

How exactly it would work:
I was informed that the YouTube section uses a bot to automatically upload any videos on the channel to PMC. To work with this, I think the bot should also check the video to see if the video has minecraft as the game being played. In YouTube you can set what game you are playing, and Minecraft is one of the options if you didn't know. This way the mods have to do minimal work removing non-Minecraft videos.

Also, people would have to know how this works, so on the sidebar there would be a section where it explains how to get your videos on here. It would state how the system works, and specifically say that only Minecraft videos are allowed, and that you need to have Minecraft listed as the game being played to have the video get uploaded on the site.


Comments (19)

Acier said 2018-03-12 22:26:10
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you don't have to convince me of anything, I have no say over the youtube section. You have to convince cyprezz and paril to limit the youtube section to only minecraft content. I'm simply playing devils advocate
LightlySaltedBuilder said 2018-03-12 22:15:36
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Forums should be allowed because that's discussion, and we shouldn't limit what people can talk about. However on the submission section, I really don't agree with the blog section allowing non-minecraft stuff, but it's not too bad because it's in moderation. However, in the YouTube section only a third of the content is Minecraft related.

So basically, if it was a little bit I would be fine with non-Minecraft videos in the section, but because of the sheer amount, I think there should be a rule blocking them.

Also, this conversation has been going on for quite a bit. Think we should end it anytime soon? Doesn't look like we're gonna convince each other of anything.
Acier said 2018-03-12 22:09:10
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If you want high quality content you can click the most subscribed tab. As the mods already stated, non minecraft content is allowed in forums and blogs why should this be any different
LightlySaltedBuilder said 2018-03-12 22:06:22
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Actually, it already has that. It's the trending section. But, to get this back on topic, the main issue with the non-minecraft videos isn't about quality, but about keeping the section focused on Minecraft, since as said before, PMC is and should try to remain a Minecraft-centered site.
Acier said 2018-03-12 22:00:34
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and do you feel the same way about the project section? should it be made into a feed of only high quality builds?
LightlySaltedBuilder said 2018-03-12 21:49:28
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Like I said, having a place to grow your channel is not bad, but I don't think we should lower quality or allow non-minecraft content just to help members. While PMC should help members grow, I don't think that should be the main priority. In the end, quality will bring people in and keep them coming, not having spots where people can spam their YouTube videos. (They're not really spamming, but I'm just using that word for emphasis)
Acier said 2018-03-11 20:56:06
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If the goal of the site was to promote high quality content then it would be a vastly different site. The project section is by default set to the newest projects rather than the most trending or most downloaded ones. Skins, forums, blogs, packs, and mods follow the same pattern of new content rather than good content. Everyone has an equal shot in the system to get noticed. From what i see the site is focused on its community more than it's quality submissions
said 2018-03-11 20:16:22
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LightlySaltedBuilder modified ticket description.
LightlySaltedBuilder said 2018-03-11 20:08:03
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Your right, I didn't know the system worked like that. I assumed it was done by hand like all the other sections. But that could make it easier. Just have the bot or algorithm check the video to see if it has minecraft listed as the game. Then you have something written on the sidebar informing people how to get their videos on here, and specifically stating that the video must be under gaming and have minecraft as the game being played, or it will not show up on the site. That could remove almost all work from the mods except maybe something that slips past, like someone putting minecraft as the game being played when it's not.

Also, I don't think the YouTube section should just be a place for people to grow their YouTube channels, that seems kind of cheap and kind of as a "free subs" rather than a place to share good Minecraft videos. Not that having a place to grow your channel is bad, but I think that shouldn't be the point.
reallyharduser said 2018-03-11 16:37:26
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Yeah!!! Minecraft related videos on a minecraft site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Acier said 2018-03-09 21:22:08
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To the point that people will realize, after 7 years people still put their ip in the chat lobby. In addition you seem to not know how the system works. The YouTube section automatically posts videos by itself as soon as you upload it to YouTube, you don't decide if the video gets posted. The only way to stop your videos from getting posted into the feed is to remove your YouTube link from your account
said 2018-03-09 20:29:47
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LightlySaltedBuilder modified ticket description.
LightlySaltedBuilder said 2018-03-09 20:28:55
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I think at first it would be a good bit of work, but after a while people would realize that non-minecraft videos aren't allowed and stop uploading them. Obviously you'd have the occasional poster, but it wouldn't be much worse than any other section. Also, none of the site (except for the mods and texture packs) has a greenlight system, so I don't think it would make sense to do it for this one part.
Acier said 2018-03-08 20:38:17
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I never said it wasnt possible I said it wasnt feasible. I take it from your reply that you feel it should be decided by hand what gets posted and what doesnt. This could happen one of two ways, either paril develops some sort of feed that all of the videos get sent to and you have moderators approve them before they get posted, or you have them all get posted and then mods remove non minecraft videos. both options require the already busy (volunteer) mods to spend a decent chunk of time on a very small section of the site. I'm sure some of the mods would even be willing to do it, but its time that could be spent on other things
LightlySaltedBuilder said 2018-03-08 20:32:48
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How is it not possible? I'd say it's pretty easy to tell if something isn't Minecraft related. While there are some types of content which might be kind of gray, but usually you can just look at whether someone is playing Minecraft or another game, and be able to tell whether that would be breaking this rule. (If it's implemented)
LightlySaltedBuilder said 2018-03-08 20:29:39
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In reply to Azie and Luis, I don't think this would be a problem by itself, a little bit of non-minecraft content doesn't hurt. But the majority of the videos currently are not minecraft related. In fact an overwhelming majority. Only 7 videos on the front page were about Minecraft, and the other 15 were about other games.

PMC is a Minecraft site, but the YouTube section is not focused on Minecraft. Currently the YouTube section seems a lot like a gaming YouTubers section, not a Minecraft YouTubers section. I don't know about you, but that seems like a problem to me.
Azie said 2018-03-08 15:58:00
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I disagree.

Our Blogs section used to be limited to "Minecraft-only" content and what we saw happen was the slow decline of quality content as good content creators ran out of things to write about. I'd imagine the same thing would happen with the Youtube section if that was the case there.
Acier said 2018-03-08 13:38:26
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Even beyond the fact that it isn't a minecraft only site, its not even feasible. Either a moderator would have to sort through all the content and decide what is shown and what isn't, Or the site could only pull content that is listed as "gaming" and has minecraft as the game title. I think plenty of small creators don't actually make sure they put their videos under gaming and minecraft and their videos would be left out.

The section as a whole seems more like its focus is to help members of the community grow their youtube channel and is more community focused rather than a nice place to find minecraft youtube videos. the tabs "rising star" "popular on pmc" and "new to pmc" make it feel like the purpose is more to give exposure to the people who contribute to the community regardless of the content they post
Luis said 2018-03-08 05:07:38
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PMC isn't a Minecraft only site however, fact of the matter is our forums, blogs and community as a whole is saturated with non-Minecraft content. Our blog section used to not allow non-Minecraft content, but that has not been the case for years, until rules change for other parts of the site (particularly blogs), I don't see why the YT section should be held to a higher standard.

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