Remove feature that bumps forums to the top of feed when commented on

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Ticket #8942
Opened by: Campestral
Status: Accepted
Type:
Feature Request
Views:
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Public
Opened:
11/14/19 6:03 pm 11/14/19 6:03 pm
Updated:
11/18/19 10:15 am 11/18/19 10:15 am
Assigned:
This is driving me insane. Every time someone makes a comment on the seven year old forum thread by PMC telling the world how they found PMC, it gets moved to the top of my feed. There is no way for me to disable this feature other than to personalize and remove forum posts altogether (I don't want this). Either remove this and go back to how it was, or make it a customization feature. I miss actually being able to see my feed.

Possible solution: Adding update blogs to threads so if one is updated they still get boosted to the top if they are active. But they won't show up every time someone comments.

9 replies

11/18/2019 10:15 am
Level 69 : High Grandmaster Cyborg
Cyprezz
set status to Accepted, assigned Cyprezz.
I've adjusted when threads appear in our feeds again. I'm going to keep this ticket open though as I'm still unsure if it's the best solution / algorithm.
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11/14/2019 9:01 pm
Level 69 : High Grandmaster Cyborg
Cyprezz
Hmm, you should not be seeing this specifically with PMC's threads. Is anyone else seeing this? You should never see threads older than 3 months from PMC appear in your feed anymore. I added a specific cutoff time for this very reason 10 days ago.

I just went through my feed to 20+ hours ago (time of last reply on that thread) and it doesn't appear. I want to help but I'm unable to reproduce. That said, there must be something I'm overlooking if you're still seeing that thread bump in your feed.
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11/14/2019 9:35 pmhistory
Level 44 : Master Professor
acciaio
sorted to forum threads only and found this gem

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11/14/2019 9:34 pm
Level 31 : Artisan Warrior
Campestral
I see this issue with both PMC and with my subscriptions. I was just using the PMC one as an example because that's what everyone sees. I've also confirmed with other people that they do have this issue, I thought it was honestly a feature.
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11/15/2019 9:42 amhistory
Level 69 : High Grandmaster Cyborg
Cyprezz
It is a feature to help thread discussion between subs of the publisher and in turn the more subs that respond, the more likely the thread is viewed by non-subs. Most threads could use the added readership & who is more appropriate to provide feedback / spark conversation then their subscribers/fans. Ideally, in the longer term, this would help to bring subs of a particular creator together since you tend to converse on the same topics & presumably like what the creator is releasing elsewhere on the site.

Without this feature, subs only see when the thread is published and after that... even if it starts an engaging conversation, you won't know about it or have an opportunity to read the conversation or jump in. Even with this feature in place, a "bad" or resolved thread will fade when the responses do.

For PMC's account is was overwhelming because their posts appear in everyone's feed. When the feature went live, their old threads exploded! It quickly highlighted the issue you're describing. However, a cutoff was put in place.

It seems you have some active subscription threads that are reminding you of the PMC ones? I'll apply the cutoff on everyone's threads and see if that helps tip the balance towards cool instead of annoying. I thought it would be interesting to allow even old threads to remain alive among subs.
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11/15/2019 11:19 am
Level 31 : Artisan Warrior
Campestral
I agree that it is good to bring more attention to threads that are still active, and bumping active ones to the top is not much of an issue with me. But the feature really doesn't seem to fit the feed style and really does lean more towards annoying. I know people like Carcharodontosaurus would benefit because he does update a lot of the same threads. But conversations with him seemed to have lead to the agreement with my solution being a good idea.

It seems more beneficial to have the active threads be determined by the effort that the creator puts into them, even if they are several years old. Let's say the creator edits and then uses an update blog, this would then bump it to the top of a feed like a skin, it would still get more views/likes/comments and be relevant and worth looking at again. While at the same time being more relevant and letting you know something is new.

Although I do appreciate any effort into making this less annoying and filling up half of my feed, does seem like there are more possible and agreeable solutions. Thanks.
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11/15/2019 12:18 pm
Level 69 : High Grandmaster Cyborg
Cyprezz
Will put more thought into this and revise. I'd like it to still be automated without deliberate bumping simply because it's another thing for members to think about, learn, forget about, potentially abuse, needs UI, maybe moderation, etc.

I'd like to find a happy balance where it's automatically promoting discussion while of course not being annoying. Forgot that I can easily view your personal feed and that's giving me a clear picture of what you and others are seeing and how to best approach the feature.

Very crude / easy solution is simply restricting this "thread promotional feed period" to 1 week. Anyway, needs more thought.
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11/15/2019 1:33 pm
Level 55 : Grandmaster Caveman
Carcharodontosaurus
I think adding an 'update blog' like with skins/projects, as @Campestral suggests, could be a good solution to it. 👍
11/14/2019 6:21 pm
Level 31 : Artisan Warrior
Campestral
modified ticket description.

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