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6/1/2015 9:48 pm
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What is this computer going to be used for?
Gaming and programming. This includes anything from triple-A games to minecraft. So basically a good graphics card and CPU.
What is your budget?
1000 US dollars, preferably less.
Where do you live? If in the US, do you have a nearby Microcenter?
United States, no Microcenter
What is included in the budget?
A monitor. Possibly two but I would prioritize computer power over two monitors. I can deal with a mouse and keyboard myself.
Will you be overclocking?
Probably not. I'm new to building computers and so I don't even wanna touch that stuff.
Will you be reusing any parts?
Nope
What OS do you want?
Windows 7 (Home Premium, probably) for now.
Any specific case preferences?
Not huge. Dark cases are better but I'm not especially picky.
Any other special features that you want in the build?
An SSD if the build can afford it. I would assume it can't though. A 1TB hard drive should suffice. Probably a wifi card as well (unless I find I have an incredibly long ethernet cable that I can put through a door, which I highly doubt I have)
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06/01/2015 9:48 pm
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53MP3RF1
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Tweaked Randomness's build, the price went up because the deal for the motherboard + RAM basically gave you an extra $50 to spend on monitors. Thus, the inclusion of the RAM brought the price up about $45.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($176.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY CS1111 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.97 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Tesla R2 500W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.98 @ Directron)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 OEM (64-bit) ($92.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer G227HQLbi 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($107.58 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer G227HQLbi 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($107.58 @ Newegg)
Total: $1045.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-01 21:47 EDT-0400


As long as everything else is fine, you should be good to go!
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06/01/2015 8:23 pm
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Unlocked
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BUMP
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06/01/2015 12:55 am
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I have a problem. I hadn't ordered the parts yet and I was about to but the motherboard is now out of stock and the slightly more expensive option doesn't include free RAM. Is there any sort of other alternative?

Everything else still appears to be in stock.
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05/30/2015 12:34 pm
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Unlocked
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Thanks a ton for all your help!
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05/30/2015 11:48 am
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Randomness3333
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You will run out of space very quickly with a 240GB drive. You use the SSD for your windows installation plus games/programs you frequently use and/or have lots of loading time which the SSD will decrease. You have the 1TB HDD for other stuff.
And I goofed, get the HDD from Newegg it's 98 cents cheaper there.
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05/30/2015 11:57 am
Level 28 : Expert Dragon
Unlocked
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Sounds good. Does the case come with all of the screws and stuff that I need (I don't mean tools. I have screwdrivers)
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05/30/2015 12:14 pm
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Randomness3333
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Yep. Just check the manuals for where different screws/cables go and watch a video guide or two before. If you have any questions with the Source 210 elite feel free to ask me since i have a source 210 which is very similar.
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05/30/2015 11:06 am
Level 26 : Expert Princess
Randomness3333
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($176.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3P ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($96.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY CS1111 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.97 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Tesla R2 500W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.98 @ Directron)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 OEM (64-bit) ($88.88 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer G227HQLbi 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer G227HQLbi 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1004.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-30 10:57 EDT-0400
The motherboard comes with free RAM.
If you need to get the price down get only one monitor for now.
Compared to Grim's build, this has a slightly faster CPU and a MUCH better motherboard in both quality and features. Also, it has a bigger SSD (you can fit more programs/games on it). The GPU is higher clock speed and the PSU is much better quality. It doesn't really matter whether you get win 7 or 8.1 with the upgrade to win 10 so close. Monitors are 20 bucks cheaper but have a 6ms response time vs 5ms and a 21.5" instead of 22".
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05/30/2015 11:08 am
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TheGrimGamer14
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A much better build then mine. OP get Randomness build.
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05/30/2015 11:17 am
Level 28 : Expert Dragon
Unlocked
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Okay! xD
Randomness3333
Storage: PNY CS1111 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.97 @ Amazon)

Once again, is there a reason to get 2 storage drives? Will it put applications on the SSD and general files on the IHD or something like that?
Randomness3333It doesn't really matter whether you get win 7 or 8.1 with the upgrade to win 10 so close.

That was what I was thinking as well. I've used windows 7 for the past few years and it has served me well. I don't really mind going a month or two before having a better OS, as Win7 is pretty good anyways.
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05/30/2015 11:04 am
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53MP3RF1
UnlockedWhat is this computer going to be used for?
Gaming and programming. This includes anything from triple-A games to minecraft. So basically a good graphics card and CPU.
What is your budget?
1000 US dollars, preferably less.
Where do you live? If in the US, do you have a nearby Microcenter?
United States, no Microcenter
What is included in the budget?
A monitor. Possibly two but I would prioritize computer power over two monitors. I can deal with a mouse and keyboard myself.
Will you be overclocking?
Probably not. I'm new to building computers and so I don't even wanna touch that stuff.
Will you be reusing any parts?
Nope
What OS do you want?
Windows 7 (Home Premium, probably) for now.
Any specific case preferences?
Not huge. Dark cases are better but I'm not especially picky.
Any other special features that you want in the build?
An SSD if the build can afford it. I would assume it can't though. A 1TB hard drive should suffice. Probably a wifi card as well (unless I find I have an incredibly long ethernet cable that I can put through a door, which I highly doubt I have)



Well, I need to know - how much time are you going to be spending programming? Enough that it would pay off to buy a workstation/server-grade motherboard and ECC RAM, paired with a Xeon? Or will it just be a smaller-scale deal, which won't need the stability that comes with those functions. Going with the Xeon-based build would be a lot more expensive than with a normal sort of computer. Grim's build is alright, but I would suggest you invest in the PSU in my build rather than his - it's more efficient and more reliable. Also, mine does not have a WiFi card, but you can put one in there if you'd like. Personally, I'd make the sacrifice to get an extra-long ethernet cable. If you have building security, I'd also speak with someone who works there to see if you can get an ethernet hub installed in your room.

Xeon-Based Build
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock E3C224D2I Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Mwave)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) Registered DDR3-1333 Memory ($72.02 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 730 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($310.95 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($72.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($90.00 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1404.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-30 10:51 EDT-0400

When I say I'm a programmer, I mean I do it as a hobby, not as a job. I don't need lots of fancy stuff for stability and whatnot. I mainly just need a solid computer that can handle fairly intensive use, which the previous build seems to be capable of.

I may invest in that PSU though.
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05/30/2015 10:57 am
Level 11 : Journeyman Explorer
53MP3RF1
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UnlockedWhat is this computer going to be used for?
Gaming and programming. This includes anything from triple-A games to minecraft. So basically a good graphics card and CPU.
What is your budget?
1000 US dollars, preferably less.
Where do you live? If in the US, do you have a nearby Microcenter?
United States, no Microcenter
What is included in the budget?
A monitor. Possibly two but I would prioritize computer power over two monitors. I can deal with a mouse and keyboard myself.
Will you be overclocking?
Probably not. I'm new to building computers and so I don't even wanna touch that stuff.
Will you be reusing any parts?
Nope
What OS do you want?
Windows 7 (Home Premium, probably) for now.
Any specific case preferences?
Not huge. Dark cases are better but I'm not especially picky.
Any other special features that you want in the build?
An SSD if the build can afford it. I would assume it can't though. A 1TB hard drive should suffice. Probably a wifi card as well (unless I find I have an incredibly long ethernet cable that I can put through a door, which I highly doubt I have)



Well, I need to know - how much time are you going to be spending programming? Enough that it would pay off to buy a workstation/server-grade motherboard and ECC RAM, paired with a Xeon? Or will it just be a smaller-scale deal, which won't need the stability that comes with those functions. Going with the Xeon-based build would be a lot more expensive than with a normal sort of computer. Grim's build is alright, but I would suggest you invest in the PSU in my build rather than his - it's more efficient and more reliable. Also, mine does not have a WiFi card, but you can put one in there if you'd like. Personally, I'd make the sacrifice to get an extra-long ethernet cable. If you have building security, I'd also speak with someone who works there to see if you can get an ethernet hub installed in your room.

Xeon-Based Build
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($241.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock E3C224D2I Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Mwave)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) Registered DDR3-1333 Memory ($72.02 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 730 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($110.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($310.95 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($72.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($90.00 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1404.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-30 10:51 EDT-0400
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05/30/2015 5:12 am
Level 18 : Journeyman Warrior
serdarminecraft
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hi
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05/30/2015 2:26 am
Level 1 : New Network
TheGrimGamer14
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Windows 8.1 Is better for gaming then 7

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($173.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($46.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Elite Plus 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ ARC 100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.75 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($9.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($89.95 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $999.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-05-30 02:26 EDT-0400
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05/30/2015 10:29 am
Level 28 : Expert Dragon
Unlocked
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After running over the parts, it looks like a pretty good build for the money. One thing I was wondering is why I would need both a normal hard drive and an SSD. Also, will I need anything other than what comes in the build? Does the case include all of the screws and stuff I'll need?
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05/30/2015 2:21 am
Level 26 : Expert Princess
Randomness3333
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Do you want an IPS(better color reproduction and viewing angles than TN) or a TN(can have better response times than IPS) monitor?
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05/30/2015 10:16 am
Level 28 : Expert Dragon
Unlocked
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I would say IPS. I'm not really a hardcore gamer. I mostly just play for my own enjoyment and casually.
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05/29/2015 10:45 pm
Level 1 : New Miner
Zee-G
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hey. i could help you out with this if you'd like.
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