PMC is not your personal army; this isn't something we want here.
Bukkit's response is exactly the same response I would have given, so just refer there for the same way we feel about this.

If it's against the law, contact the police.

-P

Yup - we've turned over all information necessary to have this person locked away for a long time. Whether or not the authorities take action is up to them heh.

I really just want the DDOS's to stop on Brazil servers. They have no protection.

Im curious, you did hand the ip/logs to the Brazilian authorities or????

All I can say is if we talk about how we'll take down those gay BR's, we'll get in trouble. Challenge Accepted.

He lives in Brazil, Brazil doesn't care about anybody.

but when it comes to the authorities, there is just not enough information for them to do anything.

Now that is a good point actually, unless he has something up his sleeve so to speak, He will have a hard time getting the authorities do do any thing about it.

I must say the one blog has a good point with the records in pastie. That sort of thing could be faked by a 6 year old on notepad. I would like to see some actual screen shots just to put this thing to rest

On the plus side the herocraft owner could get his ISP to "validate" some of those charts and that would help. He also has a great case for the cracked client because at the moment craftlandia still has that download link working.

I really do try to be fair to both sides

Wow, that sounds awful! Shame on them, what good can they get from doing this? Anyways, good luck bringing them down!

PtrkLnk

Honestly, it is just like EvilSeph said though too. There just isn't enough information from either side to actually prove this is true.

There are a lot of other servers that have been taken down by this. I don't know how you could say there is not enough evidence when there were dozens of people on the mcforum version of this thread, who had owned servers or had been on servers that had been taken down by craftlandia. I would link to these posts but mcforum decided to delete the thread.

Once again, I don't DOUBT it, but there is just not enough information at all. You can't really make a solid claim without all the information pertaining to the DDoS. Yeah, you can win people over if you SOUND like it's all happening, but when it comes to the authorities, there is just not enough information for them to do anything.

They deleted it because they are afraid to be taken down.

Minecraft / Bukkit is no longer a community for Minecraft players - they are a business and they only care about those who give them money or help them get larger.

how it started:
Spunkiie of CraftLandia messaged Sleaker (main coder) - he wanted him to join craftLandia to see the issues - Sleaker declined - due to being too busy/etc

Spunkiie responded by DDOS'ing Sleakers net - when he reconnected on IRC, he would send him harassing messages like "Now you can suck it, how do you like that"

Realizing that sleaker wouldnt push anything while being harassed, Spunkiie decided to msg me and ask when 1.3 for Herochat would come out. I told him not until there's an RB of Bukkit because we're waiting for code to be finalized.

He responded by DDOsing our Minecraft server. We took it for 24 hrs - and then when we posted publicly on MCF / HCO / Spout forums - he started to DDOS our website / TS3 servers.

It went from him wanting an update as soon as possible to him trying to cover his tracks. At this time, we have been down for a good 4-5 days. We have changed hosts and are investing in anti-ddos protection.

That's the short story.

Honestly, it is just like EvilSeph said though too. There just isn't enough information from either side to actually prove this is true.

There are a lot of other servers that have been taken down by this. I don't know how you could say there is not enough evidence when there were dozens of people on the mcforum version of this thread, who had owned servers or had been on servers that had been taken down by craftlandia. I would link to these posts but mcforum decided to delete the thread.

ok i agree ddos'ing is wrong and im ashamed to even have played on craftlandia me and my friends and others shall attempt to help you herochat is what we are mostly based off of. tell me how you will need help

So I took a look at that blog. It really seems like this guy is just trying to turn others against you. No matter how I look at it, who would think of an "evil plan" except for someone trying to make an excuse? Now, DDoSing is a large ordeal, and if you plan to accuse someone of it, you better have facts, and that means it shouldn't be taken lightly. Honestly, it is just like EvilSeph said though too. There just isn't enough information from either side to actually prove this is true.

If anything should be answered, it's this: How did this all start to begin with?

Heh... this is very amusing. This spunkiie guy seems to be really obsessed with Herocraft actually. Being a selfish freak pays off in the end, badly. If you are reading this spunkiie, get prepared to pay a large fine and possibly go to jail. I've seen concerns about this on many websites now, and people are even contacting mojang about this issue, so there you go.

I love how when I posted several things of clear proof on the kainzolies page, they disabled the comments.

Any comments on this @netolokao?

Hey, is anyone else seeing the error code when you go to the link? Mabey that's because it was shut down?

Wow dude. I love your plugins and they are an AWESOME help on the server I co-own. If there is anything we can do we are glad to help. Really hope we can all grow up and get this settled in a peaceful and humane way.

If someone hacks into your Facebook they are nice and prompt about fixing it, If someone hacks into your YouTube account it is no problem to have them fix it. If someone hacks into your iPhone you can call up Apple and they will get it sorted.

I must say I am very disappointed in the minecraft forum and in Mojang for there reaction to this. The fact that they can stay neutral with something that is clearly against the law in multiple ways, is just awful.

Also the fact that mojang will not stand behind its paying customers is just ridiculous. In any other company or for any other product that would result in a boycott of that company/product.

I am an admin on the server LegendCraft, and our server highly depends on your plugins. The owner, Marzion, has contacted you on the Bukkit forums, and is trying to do anything he can to help stop this. I really hope that Spunkiiez stops being the immature brat he is and stops Ddos'ing HeroCraft.

I hope you can stop this selfish freak from going on any further with this, best of luck to you!

Angyles

netolokao C'mon Kainzo, just ONE real proof and it's over.

One proofs to rule them all?

One proofs to find them.
One proofs to bring them all, and in the Minecrafts bind them.

netolokao C'mon Kainzo, just ONE real proof and it's over.

One proofs to rule them all?

How can we stop something that we never started?

The proof you are speaking of has been forwarded to the authorities - I will not be providing private tcp dumps or ip logs to you or your server.

Spunkiiez (Netolokao) - just get a hint, stop DDOS'ing servers and this will go away.

TheMrLief

netolokaoAnother forum. Same reply: Where are the PROOFS? C'mon Kainzo, just ONE real proof and it's over.

Nice grammar you got there buddy boy.

MAYBE because English isn't my native language? And also because i'm tired of asking for proofs, and Kainzo don't give me a single proof?

This has been going on for four days now. What is spunkiie and Craftlandia trying to prove? That they can hide behind their botnet and attack any server they wish? Gotta get this under control.

netolokaoAnother forum. Same reply: Where are the PROOFS? C'mon Kainzo, just ONE real proof and it's over.

Nice grammar you got there buddy boy.

Another forum. Same reply: Where are the PROOFS? C'mon Kainzo, just ONE real proof and it's over.

PS:kainzoslies.blogspot.com.br/