the servers people are making now really aren't that fun I mean they say pvp, survival, community but they aren't at all like actually playing minecraft no building your own house no mining for diamonds,iron,redstone,and so on. they have pvp arena's and tons of plug-ins but it makes feel like your not even playing minecraft any more not like actually trying to survive in the wilderness and mining killing cows,pigs,chicken,and so on but people think that just cuz they have nice admin and ops doesn't make it anything closer to being like minecraft and there should be some minecraft servers that actually is survival and pvp without any plug-ins just plain old minecraft at least that's what I think