Cipher_Punk
For future reference, all bans should be automatically coupled with a PM from the banning user identifying the post or submission that violated the rules. If you did not receive one, then I'll have to get back with Paril about that and see what is going wrong with the system.

I dont believe that I received anything I have just checked my messages again and cant see anything along these lines. I only noticed when I went on my submission and was unable to edit and then visit the chat...

Many thanks for taking care of it for me

queketthy 7 hours left of my ban are a slow and tiresome considering I was only attempting to help others from getting as disheartened as I am. On that matter how do I find out who issued my ban as I wish to contact them to see if they will give me some form of relief as my 'sins' where done with the best of intentions and not malicious.

You seem like a reasonable fellow. I took care of it.

For future reference, all bans should be automatically coupled with a PM from the banning user identifying the post or submission that violated the rules. If you did not receive one, then I'll have to get back with Paril about that and see what is going wrong with the system.

Generally speaking, I hate getting reply PM's from banned users. They're usually full of vulgarity, show a blatant lack of maturity or regard for our community rules, or even death threats.

It is rare indeed to get a reply back from a user who understands that they have legitimately made a mistake. Those ones I am much more likely to forgive.

Cipher_PunkThere is simply nothing Planet Minecraft can do to help aside from passing along word of new exploits and warning server owners to keep their servers as secure as possible.

Unfortunately I do believe this is the case the more I consider the matter, which is sad for all involved. Indeed a simple proxy will shift your IP address and then with the spoofed name they are free to continue causing carnage on the server once more. It is sad state of affairs in my opinion.

My 7 hours left of my ban are a slow and tiresome considering I was only attempting to help others from getting as disheartened as I am. On that matter how do I find out who issued my ban as I wish to contact them to see if they will give me some form of relief as my 'sins' where done with the best of intentions and not malicious.

queketthAt the same time as protecting your users, is there not an element of consideration for protecting the servers?

Perhaps this could be with a highly scrutinised global ban list in which servers can use, however this solution would be overly resource intensive and non plausible.

There is a service that does such a thing.
http://www.mcbans.com/

The problem is deeper than this, though. This service (or any) cannot distribute IP addresses (legal issues) and as such cannot be used to protect servers beyond the most minor and tech-inefficient offenders.

A user who is utilizing stolen accounts, username spoofing tools, or even simply capable of altering their own IP (which is not difficult) will remain completely free to bypass security measures put into place against users on this global bans list.

There is simply nothing Planet Minecraft can do to help aside from passing along word of new exploits and warning server owners to keep their servers as secure as possible.

Cipher_PunkThe player blacklisting rule is quite important to maintaining civil discourse on our site. It also exists to protect our site members from each other.

I understand this and the reasoning behind this in order to protect innocent people, this unfortunately does however mean that the real offenders are able to hide behind a cloud of 'You can't touch us' weaving their evil way in-between innocent people caught up in their disrespect as they move from one innocent server to another. At the same time as protecting your users, is there not an element of consideration for protecting the servers?

Perhaps this could be with a highly scrutinised global ban list in which servers can use, however this solution would be overly resource intensive and non plausible. I do believe that in the future more consideration needs to be put into protecting servers from serial offenders.

I have no solution to this problem as of yet and I greatly understand and appreciate all of your concerns. I feel as if I am trying to fight a losing battle against these people and desire some method of solace with other users in a similar situation.

queketthI understand that I broke the rules on 'blacklisting' however it does seem slightly harsh to me that it results in a ban not just a caution and smack on the bottom don't do it again type action, considering the consequences surrounding the post? Correct me if I'm wrong

I would like to open with this: a 1 day ban is a very, very minor punishment and for all intents and purposes, just a smack on the bottom. These are given to first time offenders to create a user data log for future reference and to remind these users that they are guests on our site who can and will be removed if their pattern of behavior continues. Most reasonable users never accrue more than one log entry after this warning.

The player blacklisting rule is quite important to maintaining civil discourse on our site. It also exists to protect our site members from each other.

Just as there are players who would enter a server to use vulgar language and attempt to destroy your player's hard work, so too are there players who would attempt to destroy our community by falsely accusing our site members of inappropriate actions. We have seen it happen before.

Because most server owners do not posses the ability to log and prove their accusations, and because many users have tendencies to lash out against each other for small reasons, and partially because we lack the ability to verify these claims, we simply cannot allow blacklists to happen on our site, whether they be legitimate complaints or not.

I hope you understand. Thanks.

server075Be fast about it becuse i dont think this topic will be open for fery long

We are, contrary to popular belief, not unreasonable people. For as long as this post remains civil, it will remain open.

I hope you read my post here, and that you come to understand why what you have proposed is not an idea that will contribute to helping players overall - and may, in fact, come to harm many innocent people.

Hey again,

I do believe it was a little harsh - but we have to be very strict or else everyone and their mothers will want to put dirt onto peoples names!

Either way, I wouldn't worry too much about the ban when it has passed. As long as you're not breaking our rules (you may want to refresh your memory on them every one and awhile) you shouldn't expect any more bans soon.

Here are a few quick links if you do decide to have a skim through them again;
Submission - submission-guidelines-updated-november-24th-2012-t40929.html
General Site - planetminecraft-rules-guidelines-upd-nov-2012-t1040.html

Hey there!

I totally understand the reason for you wanting to give a shout out about these players.

We recently created a post (and an announcement) about a loophole in a few servers which you can read here; http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/psa ... mediately/
This may be the reason these people were able to spoof your account. If this is the case try and spread word about this to as many server owners as you can!

We can't allow you to blacklist people in the slight chance that said person just had a misunderstanding with you, or for some reason you just don't like them so you try to destroy their reputation.
Of course, I wouldn't expect you to do this - but you know what some people are like.

I hope that cleared a few things up for you.

If you have a problem with a ban take it to the moderator who banned you. You may be able to explain and/or work out the solution. However do not ask for unbans or reasons on a forum where nobody will know except for the moderator.