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What budget have you allocated for buying this camera?
What will you generally use the camera for?
Are there particular brands or models you already have in mind?

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constructer105I just want to state that having photography as a hobby is kind of a big money pit aswell.

Let's say you buy that d5100 (500-600€?) ofcourse, after a year, you want a better lens (=+500€). After a while you notice that everything would go smoother with a tripod (+400€). But ofcourse, you get invited to parties sometimes so you would like to take some decent pictures over there, so you search a decent flash (+200-400€). But we are a couple of years further and well, that d5100 just doesn't fit anymore, you have outgrown it in every way possible so you buy a new body (+600-1200€). Now you notice that that little detail you want to capture just doesn't show up big enough on you picture, so you buy a tele or a macro (600-1000-2000-...€)

Oh, and by the way. Earning cash with photo's is getting harder as we speak. You have to reach an outstanding level to really make a living out of it.

And yes, I say this with my own experience in the back of my head being a hobbiest photographer myself.
I know, but I know aswell that gaming isn't that cheap either. But Im not asking for costs. Im asking for advice of enjoyment. Both the computer and camera costs around the same but do they give me the same?

Taking pictures definitely gets boring fast. I got a £400 camera for my b-day one year. Entertained me for 2 weeks.

Thanks, thats what I think will happend but also not. Im not sure, still thinking about it. First I'll see how much money I will get on my b-day that is up soon. After that I'll pick Thanks for commenting btw.

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constructer105I just want to state that having photography as a hobby is kind of a big money pit aswell.

Let's say you buy that d5100 (500-600€?) ofcourse, after a year, you want a better lens (=+500€). After a while you notice that everything would go smoother with a tripod (+400€). But ofcourse, you get invited to parties sometimes so you would like to take some decent pictures over there, so you search a decent flash (+200-400€). But we are a couple of years further and well, that d5100 just doesn't fit anymore, you have outgrown it in every way possible so you buy a new body (+600-1200€). Now you notice that that little detail you want to capture just doesn't show up big enough on you picture, so you buy a tele or a macro (600-1000-2000-...€)

Oh, and by the way. Earning cash with photo's is getting harder as we speak. You have to reach an outstanding level to really make a living out of it.

And yes, I say this with my own experience in the back of my head being a hobbiest photographer myself.
I know, but I know aswell that gaming isn't that cheap either. But Im not asking for costs. Im asking for advice of enjoyment. Both the computer and camera costs around the same but do they give me the same?

Taking pictures definitely gets boring fast. I got a £400 camera for my b-day one year. Entertained me for 2 weeks.

Which one are you certain you'd get more use out of?
Thar be your answer.

I guess you could try splitting it in the middle? Get an above average computer (Not necessarily for gaming) and a pretty good camera?

Camera. Trust me you'll get hooked with the computer, and you'll regret it. And I'm talk of past experiences here...

If you're not a gaming addict like me, I would recommend the camera. The camera will also make you want to go out more to take pics.

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constructer105I just want to state that having photography as a hobby is kind of a big money pit aswell.

Let's say you buy that d5100 (500-600€?) ofcourse, after a year, you want a better lens (=+500€). After a while you notice that everything would go smoother with a tripod (+400€). But ofcourse, you get invited to parties sometimes so you would like to take some decent pictures over there, so you search a decent flash (+200-400€). But we are a couple of years further and well, that d5100 just doesn't fit anymore, you have outgrown it in every way possible so you buy a new body (+600-1200€). Now you notice that that little detail you want to capture just doesn't show up big enough on you picture, so you buy a tele or a macro (600-1000-2000-...€)

Oh, and by the way. Earning cash with photo's is getting harder as we speak. You have to reach an outstanding level to really make a living out of it.

And yes, I say this with my own experience in the back of my head being a hobbiest photographer myself.
I know, but I know aswell that gaming isn't that cheap either. But Im not asking for costs. Im asking for advice of enjoyment. Both the computer and camera costs around the same but do they give me the same?

You say you won't earn any money doing photography - true. However, starting early helps. I'm 16, and got a Nikon D3100 last year. At school, I use it as I am part of the school film and media teams. It is also useful personally (When I went to the recent DigitalNationz expo in Auckland (I live in NZ), I was one of the only people with an SLR, and all my pictures look way better than any of the others i've seen). An old friend of mine now sells his photos at local markets for money, and has won lots of competitions. He got into photography at around 14.

At the same time, I also have a decent gaming computer, that my parents and I have sunk around 2500 NZD into. It is totally worth it, and I am a proud member of the PC Master Race. However, it is a huge money pit.

I don't have lots of gear, just the camera, and my mother's old Minolta 200mm lens (Nikon-Minolta converter was 30 bucks). If I wanted to, I could sink more money in, but I see no reason.

My only other comment is - if you get a SLR, go for one that has good manual settings, and video. That way, you have a video camera and photo camera that is good for both. (Only other problem is audio)

Just my 10 cents (NZ got rid of 5 cent coin years ago, as well as 1 and 2 cents)

I just want to state that having photography as a hobby is kind of a big money pit aswell.

Let's say you buy that d5100 (500-600€?) ofcourse, after a year, you want a better lens (=+500€). After a while you notice that everything would go smoother with a tripod (+400€). But ofcourse, you get invited to parties sometimes so you would like to take some decent pictures over there, so you search a decent flash (+200-400€). But we are a couple of years further and well, that d5100 just doesn't fit anymore, you have outgrown it in every way possible so you buy a new body (+600-1200€). Now you notice that that little detail you want to capture just doesn't show up big enough on you picture, so you buy a tele or a macro (600-1000-2000-...€)

And yes, I say this with my own experience in the back of my head being a hobbiest photographer myself.

Oh, and by the way. Earning cash with photo's is getting harder as we speak. You have to reach an outstanding level to really make a living out of it.

Well, from a financial perspective, if you know how to effectively use a camera, you have some potential to make a fair amount of cash for a simple hobby. However, a gaming PC is basically a money pit. Unless you end up becoming a popular Youtube gamer, chances are that the only thing you'll get out of that purchase is a nice diversion. Does that mean I think gaming PCs are a total waste? Not necessarily, considering that I'm typing this on one, but if you're trying to consider which one will be "worthwhile" in the grand scheme of things, I offer that one perspective.

Like you said, it really depends what you want. With a gaming PC you will be able to play impressive games such as Battlefield 3, Black Ops 2, Skyrim, etc. However, if you are in to hobbies such as graphics design, then you may as well the with the photography.