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Please, read the entire blog before getting offended. Thank you.
No, seriously, please do. I'm not trying to encourage griefing here. For you to understand you should read the blog in it's entirety.
I quite seriously doubt that you, or anyone who plays Minecraft, hasn't attempted to grief something over the course of their play-time. If you haven't, I congratulate you for resisting temptation, because after all, it isn't an overly nice thing to do to someone. Hell, though, can it be fun. Why, though? It's awful when something someone has spent hours of their life creating is destroyed, so why is destroying it considered so 'fun'?
Personally, I don't believe the actual destruction to be the fun part, unless you're a pyromaniac. I don't think it's the sight of the victim's rage. It's not even the gleeful sound of exploding dynamite. I believe, that the reason griefing is fun, is the excitement of doing something you're not meant to be. That's simply all it is.
Perhaps for some people with extreme jealousy problems, the destruction could be fun. For those d***heads out there who think watching kids crying is enjoyable, the rage could be fun. For the people who may suffer slight insanity, the sound of TNT could be fun (Me included, unfortunately). Though, for most of us, the best part is the sense of adrenaline we receive from the constant risk we could be caught at any time, by player or admin, and forever removed from the world we spent the last few hours killing creepers in. If you don't find this fun, there may be something slightly wrong with you, for even the kindest, most generous, and least violent people receive excitement from this potential danger.
I've always hated griefing, actually, so the fact I am writing this is somewhat ironic. For me, the fact you are causing such negative feelings towards another outweighs the positive feelings you acquire yourself. I've always thought it to be something rather disgusting, for the damage you cause is easier to be enforced than the work which goes into the original building's creation. It's lazy, sloppy, and not very admirable. Some of the griefing out there goes to show the heartlessness of some of those within our community, the wickedness achievable by us, and honestly, I pity those who take pleasure in common griefing, for not being able to understand the pain they have caused.
So I've come up with a compromise. A way in which this adrenaline rush can be achieved without breaking a stranger's heart. Actually, I've come up with a few ways. You see, I hate 'common' griefing - random and thoughtless destruction with minimal effort.
I don't, however, have problems with perhaps more creative methods of leaving 'your mark'.
My main problems with 'common' griefing are;
So here is the solution; if you would like to grief, do so in such a way which does not directly damage the creation in a negative way, and do not do to it anything which would cause the creation long term damage, unless it itself took little effort to create.
Maybe this doesn't make sense to you. Griefing is, in the Wiki's terms, "the act of irritating and angering people in video games through the use of destruction, construction, or social engineering.". Basically, causing someone to be angry or irritated by your actions. I see griefing as slightly different, as in my eyes, griefing can be seen as a form of trolling. Trolling is provoking emotions onto the victim, however, despite many people's beliefs, it doesn't necessarily have to be negative emotions. The emotions can simply be confusion, misunderstanding or self-annoyance. So I would consider editing someone's creation to cause any of this to also be griefing. So just as trolling isn't always bad, in my opinion, neither is griefing. There are alternatives which don't cause direct pain to their victims.
I currently have four alternatives, and if I think of any more, I will add them.
WARNING: These methods can all still result in a ban!
This method is interesting and unique in that nothing is really destroyed, only replaced. Instead of destroying a house, you 're-create' it, so basically, turning something like this;
Into this;
I changed the house really quickly, so obviously it doesn't look amazing, but the amount of effort put into the 'make-over' is almost limitless. It could be done in various ways. It could be a giant change, like replacing every material, or a small subtle change, like placing a few cobwebs and removing a few torches.
Personally, If I found this, I would find this either sort of interesting, or really creepy, depending on how it is done. I wouldn't really be annoyed. Sure, I would have to fix it, but at least I have something more than a crater to work off.
Again, you may be banned, but it isn't as likely. I don't think many people would be REALLY annoyed, so you could get off with it, especially if you only make small changes. As long as you don't replace any precious materials or take from chests, you should be fine.
You may have noticed that all these methods require a level of skill, and are open to a personal touch. That's what makes them good, as it means that the 'victim' of your griefing won't feel overly cheated or heart-broken, as what has happened is either their fault and avoidable, or simply surreal to the point they forget to report you to admins due to how baffled they are.
So, that's good, but guess what else? The entire time you do these things, you're getting that buzz, that excitement, and even more, you get satisfaction from what you have made, instead of what you have destroyed.
I also beg that even though these methods aren't overly destructive, please don't use them on something that a lot of effort has gone onto. Only grief on small scale things that can be easily replaced, and aren't highly valued on the server, otherwise you could cause some serious depression to some poor soul who's spent a solid week making a castle only for it to be replaced by a giant chicken.
So thanks for reading my blog, hopefully you'll consider it next time you go to grief something. I also hope it wasn't too long for you; if it was, I apologise for my extreme rambling skills.
Also, if you got the impression I'm encouraging griefing, I'm not. I'm simply acknowledging that griefing does happen, and if people want to grief, they will grief. I wanted to supply alternate methods in the hope that griefers will choose to use more creative methods.
Don't forget to leave a diamond, favourite or comment if you enjoyed, and happy griefing!
Disagree with anything? Send me a focused comment explaining what you disagree with, and I'll reply back to you as soon as possible. I try to reply to all messages. :)
TL:DR? Basically, instead of griefing, place obvious traps, turn the creation into a weird alternate version, or remove the creation and replace it with something weird and wacky. I advise you read the full blog, but if you can't be bothered I respect your laziness. Have a good day! :)
No, seriously, please do. I'm not trying to encourage griefing here. For you to understand you should read the blog in it's entirety.
I quite seriously doubt that you, or anyone who plays Minecraft, hasn't attempted to grief something over the course of their play-time. If you haven't, I congratulate you for resisting temptation, because after all, it isn't an overly nice thing to do to someone. Hell, though, can it be fun. Why, though? It's awful when something someone has spent hours of their life creating is destroyed, so why is destroying it considered so 'fun'?
Personally, I don't believe the actual destruction to be the fun part, unless you're a pyromaniac. I don't think it's the sight of the victim's rage. It's not even the gleeful sound of exploding dynamite. I believe, that the reason griefing is fun, is the excitement of doing something you're not meant to be. That's simply all it is.
Perhaps for some people with extreme jealousy problems, the destruction could be fun. For those d***heads out there who think watching kids crying is enjoyable, the rage could be fun. For the people who may suffer slight insanity, the sound of TNT could be fun (Me included, unfortunately). Though, for most of us, the best part is the sense of adrenaline we receive from the constant risk we could be caught at any time, by player or admin, and forever removed from the world we spent the last few hours killing creepers in. If you don't find this fun, there may be something slightly wrong with you, for even the kindest, most generous, and least violent people receive excitement from this potential danger.
I've always hated griefing, actually, so the fact I am writing this is somewhat ironic. For me, the fact you are causing such negative feelings towards another outweighs the positive feelings you acquire yourself. I've always thought it to be something rather disgusting, for the damage you cause is easier to be enforced than the work which goes into the original building's creation. It's lazy, sloppy, and not very admirable. Some of the griefing out there goes to show the heartlessness of some of those within our community, the wickedness achievable by us, and honestly, I pity those who take pleasure in common griefing, for not being able to understand the pain they have caused.
So I've come up with a compromise. A way in which this adrenaline rush can be achieved without breaking a stranger's heart. Actually, I've come up with a few ways. You see, I hate 'common' griefing - random and thoughtless destruction with minimal effort.
I don't, however, have problems with perhaps more creative methods of leaving 'your mark'.
My main problems with 'common' griefing are;
- It requires minimal effort
- It is unjust and indiscriminate.
- It causes negative feelings towards it's recipient.
- It's often very uncreative.
So here is the solution; if you would like to grief, do so in such a way which does not directly damage the creation in a negative way, and do not do to it anything which would cause the creation long term damage, unless it itself took little effort to create.
Maybe this doesn't make sense to you. Griefing is, in the Wiki's terms, "the act of irritating and angering people in video games through the use of destruction, construction, or social engineering.". Basically, causing someone to be angry or irritated by your actions. I see griefing as slightly different, as in my eyes, griefing can be seen as a form of trolling. Trolling is provoking emotions onto the victim, however, despite many people's beliefs, it doesn't necessarily have to be negative emotions. The emotions can simply be confusion, misunderstanding or self-annoyance. So I would consider editing someone's creation to cause any of this to also be griefing. So just as trolling isn't always bad, in my opinion, neither is griefing. There are alternatives which don't cause direct pain to their victims.
I currently have four alternatives, and if I think of any more, I will add them.
WARNING: These methods can all still result in a ban!
1. Trapping
Okay, so perhaps this can be done in a way which is just as uncreative as 'common' griefing, but when I say 'Trapping', I mean a certain type of trapping. A trapping which isn't mean to catch the player unaware, but one which sets up a trap easy to trigger, but in plain sight. I would argue against this method's use on creations which clearly have had a lot of effort put into, as it is still highly destructive, but besides that, I would say it is acceptable if done correctly.
The intention of the trap should be to catch the player's attention, and then exploit potential stupidity so they themselves trigger the trap. This way, you simply leave them a few nice materials to use, but they themselves caused damage to their own house.
The most simple example would be putting TNT under some flooring and then putting a lever on top of the corresponding place on the floor. This way the player will be at fault for the explosion as they are the one who pulled the lever, when they simply could have dug down and collected their nice, explosive present.
That was a simple trap. I also like a slight variation, where it is just as obvious, if not more, that there is TNT. However, this trap expects the user to break the TNT, which will then fall onto pressure plates below, causing a gigantic explosion. It is a little bit of an 'overkill', but it is still mildly amusing.
I'm not saying this method won't get you banned. In fact, it probably will. However, I personally see it as a bit more acceptable, and slightly more hilarious than directly destroying the house yourself. There is humour in irony, after all.
The intention of the trap should be to catch the player's attention, and then exploit potential stupidity so they themselves trigger the trap. This way, you simply leave them a few nice materials to use, but they themselves caused damage to their own house.
The most simple example would be putting TNT under some flooring and then putting a lever on top of the corresponding place on the floor. This way the player will be at fault for the explosion as they are the one who pulled the lever, when they simply could have dug down and collected their nice, explosive present.
That was a simple trap. I also like a slight variation, where it is just as obvious, if not more, that there is TNT. However, this trap expects the user to break the TNT, which will then fall onto pressure plates below, causing a gigantic explosion. It is a little bit of an 'overkill', but it is still mildly amusing.
I'm not saying this method won't get you banned. In fact, it probably will. However, I personally see it as a bit more acceptable, and slightly more hilarious than directly destroying the house yourself. There is humour in irony, after all.
2. 'Make-Overs'
This method is interesting and unique in that nothing is really destroyed, only replaced. Instead of destroying a house, you 're-create' it, so basically, turning something like this;
Into this;
I changed the house really quickly, so obviously it doesn't look amazing, but the amount of effort put into the 'make-over' is almost limitless. It could be done in various ways. It could be a giant change, like replacing every material, or a small subtle change, like placing a few cobwebs and removing a few torches.
Personally, If I found this, I would find this either sort of interesting, or really creepy, depending on how it is done. I wouldn't really be annoyed. Sure, I would have to fix it, but at least I have something more than a crater to work off.
Again, you may be banned, but it isn't as likely. I don't think many people would be REALLY annoyed, so you could get off with it, especially if you only make small changes. As long as you don't replace any precious materials or take from chests, you should be fine.
3. Complete Replacement
This is possibly the worst alternate method you could choose, depending on how you look at it. It basically involves completely removing the house, all of it, and then putting something in it's place. You could definitely be banned for this, but you could gain your victims respect in the process.
A good way to confuse a player would be removing their house and terraforming the land back so it looks as it did before the player arrived. They could think the server rolled-back, or that they have had false memories implanted into their brain. Maybe they dreamed building the house? If you're lucky, they might re-build it, and then you can remove it all over again. Of course this depends on your terraforming skills and the player's intelligence, but if it works, it's amazingly funny.
Another thing you could do is putting something absurd in the creations place, for example;
If someone replaced my house with a chicken I would be overjoyed. You didn't expect to hear that sentence today, did you? Well, it's true. I wouldn't mind if something I made was replaced with something of superior quality. I would find it quite humorous, if anything. Of course, that means for it to work well you have to be good at building. The chances of being banned are rather high whatever skill level you are, though.
A good way to confuse a player would be removing their house and terraforming the land back so it looks as it did before the player arrived. They could think the server rolled-back, or that they have had false memories implanted into their brain. Maybe they dreamed building the house? If you're lucky, they might re-build it, and then you can remove it all over again. Of course this depends on your terraforming skills and the player's intelligence, but if it works, it's amazingly funny.
Another thing you could do is putting something absurd in the creations place, for example;
If someone replaced my house with a chicken I would be overjoyed. You didn't expect to hear that sentence today, did you? Well, it's true. I wouldn't mind if something I made was replaced with something of superior quality. I would find it quite humorous, if anything. Of course, that means for it to work well you have to be good at building. The chances of being banned are rather high whatever skill level you are, though.
4. Shared Accomodation
Of all the methods, this is perhaps one of the most awkward, and potentially most funny. Basically, if you find an unprotected, but still frequently used (This is important) house, you place down a bed, add a few furnishings and then leave a sign saying something such as;
Whoever you have bunked with will be unable to destroy your stuff, for then they will themselves be griefers. It's better if you're nice to them, that way it's harder for them to chuck you out, and if they attempt to, try to convince them otherwise. Say you're scared of dying because once you had a pet worm that was ran over by a train and you developed a phobia so you need to stay with them for protection, or something like that. Basically make it as awkward as possible. Make an extension, a really bad ugly extension. Make a mine in the middle of the house. Do anything, see how the person reacts, it should be great. If they actually get to like you living in the house, build progressively more hideous things until they can't bear it any longer, and if that still doesn't do it, accuse them of being a bad host before immediately leaving forever.
You are actually are really unlikely for being banned using this method. The admins may give you a warning, but you'll almost definitely get off with it.
Also, something funny, you could actually meet a pretty cool guy/girl doing something like this. You could be brought together by griefing! That's be a great argument against any anti-griefing, "If it weren't for griefing, I wouldn't have my best friend. It brought us together, just like the sun and the horizon, like the rain and the sea, like all the awful houses and a load of TNT. The world wanted this to happen! It wanted us to grief! *Uncontrollable sobbing* "
Yeah. That could happen. Or you could make an arch-nemesis for life and eventually be assassinated. I don't know.
Whoever you have bunked with will be unable to destroy your stuff, for then they will themselves be griefers. It's better if you're nice to them, that way it's harder for them to chuck you out, and if they attempt to, try to convince them otherwise. Say you're scared of dying because once you had a pet worm that was ran over by a train and you developed a phobia so you need to stay with them for protection, or something like that. Basically make it as awkward as possible. Make an extension, a really bad ugly extension. Make a mine in the middle of the house. Do anything, see how the person reacts, it should be great. If they actually get to like you living in the house, build progressively more hideous things until they can't bear it any longer, and if that still doesn't do it, accuse them of being a bad host before immediately leaving forever.
You are actually are really unlikely for being banned using this method. The admins may give you a warning, but you'll almost definitely get off with it.
Also, something funny, you could actually meet a pretty cool guy/girl doing something like this. You could be brought together by griefing! That's be a great argument against any anti-griefing, "If it weren't for griefing, I wouldn't have my best friend. It brought us together, just like the sun and the horizon, like the rain and the sea, like all the awful houses and a load of TNT. The world wanted this to happen! It wanted us to grief! *Uncontrollable sobbing* "
Yeah. That could happen. Or you could make an arch-nemesis for life and eventually be assassinated. I don't know.
5. Repayment
This method is the least creative and laziest of them all. Infact, it is my least favourite. However, many people may not feel up to the other methods, and if so, it would be better to do this than simply do nothing. This is basically destroying something and then leaving something in it's place for the owner to have in repayment. A chest of a few diamonds would be a good idea, or perhaps everything you broke during destruction. I made a little dolan-style example, so you can get a better idea of what I mean...
I don't like this method and would encourage others in its place, but if you are going to greif and can't be bothered with the other things I have suggested, at least do this.
I don't like this method and would encourage others in its place, but if you are going to greif and can't be bothered with the other things I have suggested, at least do this.
You may have noticed that all these methods require a level of skill, and are open to a personal touch. That's what makes them good, as it means that the 'victim' of your griefing won't feel overly cheated or heart-broken, as what has happened is either their fault and avoidable, or simply surreal to the point they forget to report you to admins due to how baffled they are.
So, that's good, but guess what else? The entire time you do these things, you're getting that buzz, that excitement, and even more, you get satisfaction from what you have made, instead of what you have destroyed.
I also beg that even though these methods aren't overly destructive, please don't use them on something that a lot of effort has gone onto. Only grief on small scale things that can be easily replaced, and aren't highly valued on the server, otherwise you could cause some serious depression to some poor soul who's spent a solid week making a castle only for it to be replaced by a giant chicken.
So thanks for reading my blog, hopefully you'll consider it next time you go to grief something. I also hope it wasn't too long for you; if it was, I apologise for my extreme rambling skills.
Also, if you got the impression I'm encouraging griefing, I'm not. I'm simply acknowledging that griefing does happen, and if people want to grief, they will grief. I wanted to supply alternate methods in the hope that griefers will choose to use more creative methods.
Don't forget to leave a diamond, favourite or comment if you enjoyed, and happy griefing!
Disagree with anything? Send me a focused comment explaining what you disagree with, and I'll reply back to you as soon as possible. I try to reply to all messages. :)
TL:DR? Basically, instead of griefing, place obvious traps, turn the creation into a weird alternate version, or remove the creation and replace it with something weird and wacky. I advise you read the full blog, but if you can't be bothered I respect your laziness. Have a good day! :)
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