Hello,
I have decided to build a PC. It will mainly be used for programming and Minecraft gaming. My budget is around $300-$500. I have already decided on using a $100 128GB SSD and have a case/power supply picked out. What's really troubling me is the CPU and GPU/video card.
I like the price and awesomeness of an AMD A10-5800K Trinity (quad-core 3.8 GHz) CPU, but I don't know how good the built-in video card is. I have considered using Intel components, but they are expensive. If the built-in AMD card isn't good enough what do you recommend and why? Does anyone have any advice on this matter? If someone has a similar machine/build, can you inform me on your average FPS.
This is what I currently have planned out, but I'm pretty flexible as long as it stays under $500 (keep in mind I'm planning on an SSD). Also, please inform me if there are better deals out there on parts I have.
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 FM2 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813130662 @ $57)
Processor: AMD A10-5800K Trinity (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819113280 @ $130)
Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231314 @ $53)
Case/PSU: IN WIN BK644.BN300TBL MicroATX 300W Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811108191 @ $70)
SSD: SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD120BW 2.5" 120GB SATA III (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820147188 @ $110)
Hard Drive: HGST HDS721050CLA362 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822145299 @ $60)
Total: $480
Thanks in advance,
Zippy
I have decided to build a PC. It will mainly be used for programming and Minecraft gaming. My budget is around $300-$500. I have already decided on using a $100 128GB SSD and have a case/power supply picked out. What's really troubling me is the CPU and GPU/video card.
I like the price and awesomeness of an AMD A10-5800K Trinity (quad-core 3.8 GHz) CPU, but I don't know how good the built-in video card is. I have considered using Intel components, but they are expensive. If the built-in AMD card isn't good enough what do you recommend and why? Does anyone have any advice on this matter? If someone has a similar machine/build, can you inform me on your average FPS.
This is what I currently have planned out, but I'm pretty flexible as long as it stays under $500 (keep in mind I'm planning on an SSD). Also, please inform me if there are better deals out there on parts I have.
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 FM2 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813130662 @ $57)
Processor: AMD A10-5800K Trinity (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819113280 @ $130)
Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231314 @ $53)
Case/PSU: IN WIN BK644.BN300TBL MicroATX 300W Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811108191 @ $70)
SSD: SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD120BW 2.5" 120GB SATA III (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820147188 @ $110)
Hard Drive: HGST HDS721050CLA362 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822145299 @ $60)
Total: $480
Thanks in advance,
Zippy
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![katiebug586's Avatar](https://static.planetminecraft.com/files/avatar/default.jpg)
88888gb of ram i have. im brushing my toy twilight sparkles hair while im listing to ur invaid arguments
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Your posts never cease to amuse me.
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Just no! No! 1gb of ram is TERRIBLE! You need at least 4gb!
![Zemor's Avatar](https://static.planetminecraft.com/files/avatar/91869_8.png)
You obviously aren't very informed about VRAM. Most cards are 2 GB, with very few exceeding 3.
Regular RAM is what you are talking about.
Regular RAM is what you are talking about.
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^^^ What he said. This is VRAM, not RAM. And, yes, with this build I am getting 8GB of RAM which is PLENTY for even high-end games. The only reason I'd need 16GB would be video editing and rendering.
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1 GB model will definitely be enough.
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Thanks. This is really an upgrade for me anyways being that I'm running on 256MB VRAM at the moment.
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EDIT: Never mind.
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BEskindDUDE, we are talking about
$164.99 - 2gb
vs
$129.99 for 1gb.
are you going to Dual Wield sometime in the future?
LOL
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I'd buy that PC.
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DUDE, we are talking about
$164.99 - 2gb
vs
$129.99 for 1gb.
are you going to Dual Wield sometime in the future?
$164.99 - 2gb
vs
$129.99 for 1gb.
are you going to Dual Wield sometime in the future?
![1001zippy's Avatar](https://static.planetminecraft.com/files/avatar/564410.png)
This actually is a relevant point now that the EVGA 2GB 650 ti just went on sale at newegg. Do I really need a 2GB model though? Is it worth the extra $30-50? I really just use one 1080p monitor right now for light gaming.
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Depends on what types of games you'll be playing. Lots of games now are starting to use over 1 GB of VRAM.
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Mostly Minecraft and small steam games like The Train Simulator or Castle Crashers
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Pretty good deal on that 650ti. Go ahead and get it.
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Any advise on the video card?
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Also, can anyone recommend a good 500W power supply that will last me, but not break my wallet? Thanks.
![BEskind's Avatar](https://static.planetminecraft.com/files/avatar/1069214.jpg)
Thermaltake:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153172
OR if you can swing a little more:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153106
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153172
OR if you can swing a little more:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153106
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Just found the 650 Ti at newegg for $120 (with rebates). Is it worth the extra 10 bucks to go with the 650 ti and will 430W suffice? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130839
That's OK, but the 6300 is newer, higher clocked, and comes with the new Piledriver architecture.
Rewster18www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103962&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
I prefer this CPU
That's OK, but the 6300 is newer, higher clocked, and comes with the new Piledriver architecture.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 38566&SID=
I prefer this CPU
I prefer this CPU
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I would suggest 500W of power. That is the BEST thing you can upgrade right now, because without power, you will have no power for upgrades in the future. A video card would be a good idea if you plan to game at all, but since you said you plan to use Linux I presume you are more of the developer type? If so, give yourself a pat on the back. Linux is always best.
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stevenjobsI would suggest 500W of power. That is the BEST thing you can upgrade right now, because without power, you will have no power for upgrades in the future. A video card would be a good idea if you plan to game at all, but since you said you plan to use Linux I presume you are more of the developer type? If so, give yourself a pat on the back. Linux is always best.
Notice the same thing is said? I don't mind people copying what I say and saying it again, but please give credit to me. I don't care how small of a thing it is, especially if it is help.
Check the first page, scroll down to find where I posted this.
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I will be using Linux with a dual-booted 7 license (for games) I have. I figure if I will want to upgrade my video card, I'll just buy a new power supply then.
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Are you going to build the computer? If so thats best for gaming
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Yes, I am building this computer. The goal of this build is to create a mid-range, but very capable gaming computer. This goal is very possible with an AMD custom-built machine.
I'm not sure what you mean about "thats best for gaming". If you mean that custom-building is, of course it is. I'd rather build my computer than pay someone else a hundred dollars to build it. It gives you a better bang for the buck.
I'm not sure what you mean about "thats best for gaming". If you mean that custom-building is, of course it is. I'd rather build my computer than pay someone else a hundred dollars to build it. It gives you a better bang for the buck.
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Just made some revisions. Here it is if any of you are interested. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HL8m
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I'm looking at doing the same thing but I have a little higher budget by about $1,400 lol when I get everything decided upon and get around to buying the stuff I will make a post so you guys can see it all and I might make a video when I build it
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Hard drive is way too small for me.
Check this out.. some of them you may afford
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/
Good luck!
Check this out.. some of them you may afford
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/
Good luck!
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Don't go with AMD.
'AMD vs Intel' is rather easy, as AMD's current lineup of mobile CPUs is objectively horrible. You know there's an issue, when their flagship processor, the A10-4600M, is only as fast as Intel Core i3s. So the best advice is to avoid AMD at all costs.
Credit to: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=504567
'AMD vs Intel' is rather easy, as AMD's current lineup of mobile CPUs is objectively horrible. You know there's an issue, when their flagship processor, the A10-4600M, is only as fast as Intel Core i3s. So the best advice is to avoid AMD at all costs.
Credit to: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=504567
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And The AMD FX 8350 Black Edition 8 core 4GHz AM3+ Boxed Processor or Opteron 6272 16 core 2.1GHz Socket G34 Processor kicks the ass of all the intels I've seen buy for laptops I agree intels are better to a point
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Yeah, the Opteron is better than all the Intel desktop processors and the 8350 beats all the Intels besides the I7 3770k, but it is barely less powerful, and is $150 less.
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This thread is already decided that AMD is fine. Please read before you post.
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^^^
Exactly what he said. If you look at benchmarks anyway, AMD beats any Intel processor within $100 easily. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+FX-6300+Six-Core&id=1781
Exactly what he said. If you look at benchmarks anyway, AMD beats any Intel processor within $100 easily. http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+FX-6300+Six-Core&id=1781
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Yes it is . Provides benchmarks, best prices, discounts, compatibility, and estamited wattage all in one place.
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OK. I'm pretty much decided then. In case anyone wanted to look at my final build, here it is. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GYbi Nice stock high clock speed and easily overclocked.
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That website is so awesome, btw.
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At this point, it's between the Radeon 7750, GTX 650, and 550 Ti. Any opinions?
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Processor: Intel 3+ with at least quad core.
Video card: Nvidia Gtx 450+
Video card: Nvidia Gtx 450+
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I'd like to stay under 150, so that is a little less appealing. On the nVidia side, is a GTX 650 OK? 550 Ti?
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650 is fine.
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How much does the 630 cost?
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I just found a MSI N630GT-MD4GD3 GeForce GT 630 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127684&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=) on Newegg. Does this sound good? Its cheap and, according to the Minecraft Wiki hardware performance page, it works quite well with MC (100-200 FPS).
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Eh, 620 is practically the same card and offers the same performance. Is also cheaper.
Also, why not get a 650ti? Much better performance but still under $200.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814125446
Also, why not get a 650ti? Much better performance but still under $200.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814125446
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The GPU I linked you is much better than the GeForce GT 630.
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Thanks for the suggestions! I have decided to steer away from an i5 because I can get a 6-core FX-6300 Vishera 3.5GHz for 60 bucks less and from what I understand, with a processor that size, the GPU is really going to be my bottleneck.
What's really troubling me is the motherboard and GPU/Video card (more so than the mobo). I need a motherboard that allows me to overclock has a decent amount of USB ports (don't need 3.0) and expansion slots. For video card I need:
Here's my current build, again the mobo and video card are subject to change. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Gq5q.
What's really troubling me is the motherboard and GPU/Video card (more so than the mobo). I need a motherboard that allows me to overclock has a decent amount of USB ports (don't need 3.0) and expansion slots. For video card I need:
- Runs Minecraft at 100+ FPS on max settings (Extreme render distance, fancy graphics, etc). This is so I can run GPU intensive mods such as Shaders later on with an okay FPS. Anything above 60 is good, I just want to be able to use intensive mods.
- Works well with an AMD FX-4300.
- Under $200 USD. Preferably lower.
- Works well with OpenGL. Minecraft uses OpenGL and I will be using this machine mostly for Minecraft and low-end things like browsing. I don't want to spend $200 on a video card that only gets me 30 FPS.
Here's my current build, again the mobo and video card are subject to change. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Gq5q.
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A note, it is physically impossible for the human eye to tell the difference from anything 40 - 60 FPS and up. Your requirements should be around 50+ FPS if you want it 100% smooth.
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#r=1024&c=81&m=104 one of these should do you well.
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#r=1024&c=81&m=104 one of these should do you well.
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