since it is so high, i'd go with the 660. It's around 160-200. And it'll outrun the 265 by far.

Okay, the card went up to like 190 now. :/

Is there something that's causing this?

The price went up :/

Yeah, I think I will go with that build! Thanks a whole lot!

One concern I have is that the video card is showing up as $179.99 on the pcpartpicker list whereas you listed it as $149.99??

If you can tell me what's up with the price there I would appreciate it.

There is a GTX 660 for cheaper than either of those cards right now and has better performance than both of those cards. Strongest to weakest: 660>r7 265>750ti. Benchmarks.

Also, you can get a cheaper motherboard with the same quality. The Asus M5A97 R2.0 is a good motherboard but it really isn't worth paying 80$ for. Lastly, don't get a 300 watt PSU. Just don't. You will have no upgrade room with only 300 watts.

With these changes it is still cheaper than your build with the 170$ r7 265.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($107.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Biostar TA970 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Rosewill Line Glow ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $640.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-29 21:10 EDT-0400)

Okay, I've changed it. Thank you for the help. Here's what it looks like now:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3iCws

As for the video cards, I still haven't gotten an answer, any suggestions welcome, but please tell me why the video card you chose is superior to the other one.

(Oh, and only choose between the two video cards that I chose on my other post )

to Randomness: I also changed the brand filters to remove cheap, unrealiable brands. The 6300 is under an i7, but around a high-end i5 from what I've heard.

to BombSFX: Pretty good, but maybe try putting more money into the RAM. DDR3-1600 is a better choice than DDR3-1333 if you have a $700 budget.

Thank you all for your input, I decided to try again. Maybe I did a bit better this time? I dunno, let me know.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3ijPU

(So let's start off by changing my budget to under 750...)
I am debating between two different video cards. (Which my current one was not on the list so I had to add it to the custom parts list, which in turn made it not add the price to the total. The real total will be around 650. Keep that in mind please.)

The two different video cards are these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814202096 (Which is in the build already.)

and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814487028

Please let me know your thoughts on my second attempt at a gaming rig, and suggestions on the video card.

@OP it sounds like the 760 would be a good card for you, it should be able to handle about everything you want to play

BombSFX
Answered his questions. Also, the build is for me. Sorry if I didn't make that clear as I am running on like two hours of sleep. D:

Thank you so much for spending your time editing my mistakes. I did answer Thou's questions and I do not plan on overclocking. I have taken your notes into account. You've been a big help, but maybe you could direct me to somewhere where I can learn a bit more? You're talking about chipsets and I get lost somewhere in there because I barely know what features are different in between them.

Oh yes and please do respond.

I misread your post sorry.

To answer your question about chipsets I'll give a basic rundown of motherboard sockets and chipsets. The socket determines what CPUs can physically work with the board. Each socket can have multiple chipsets where higher end chipsets have higher quality and more features but cost more.If you want to learn more looking at Tom's Hardware is great and googling is always a good idea.

Seghas

Click to reveal

OK, here's a pretty good one. It has a bit underpowered GPU (but still one of the best ones), but its still a good build for your purposes.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($107.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($41.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.56 @ Mwave)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($169.87 @ Mwave)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.98 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer V213HLBJbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($148.94 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N150UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $718.28
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-27 18:48 EDT-0400)

That's not too great of a build.
-Old chipset motherboard.
-You can get cheaper RAM.
-1tb Seagate barracuda is cheaper and better than the toshiba HDD.
-You can get other 750tis for cheaper and the r7 265 is better than those cheaper 750tis for the same price.
-No need for a 500 watt PSU when that build doesn't even use 250.
-You can get a monitor with similar specs for 30$ less.
-OP never included a wi-fi adapter so why did you put one in?

Crazy's build is fine but there won't be really any difference between the mobo and ram that we choose other than his being a little bit better.

The only thing wrong with Circuit's build is that it is over budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($107.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Rosewill Line Glow ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.75 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $722.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-27 20:19 EDT-0400)

My recommendation is basically Randoms build. I just changed the RAM and MoBo.
-we have all said fx-6300 over fx-4300 because its basically enough faster for only $7 more its well worth it.
-What games do you plan on playing? depending on how intensive they are you could potentially be fine with a much cheaper GPU. I see that Seghas has recommended the 750ti which is just a step under the 760 and can be picked up for $150, although he seems to have selected a more expensive model.
-Theres nonthing really bad about Circuit Craft's build, but by the time you add the monitor, wireless, and optical drive, its well out of your budget.
-BTW you do not sound like a "moron", If you have any questions always feel free to ask.

Here's what I got for you.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($83.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $720.17
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-27 19:57 EDT-0400)

CPU: Intel is superior right now in my opinion. i5 is good for gaming, and it isn't a K model so you can't overclock, but it is cheaper.
Motherboard: Motherboard is an Asus and they have an amazing BIOS.
Memory: Good 8GB RAM, two channels, with a fairly good clock rate, 1600MHz, I would have preferred 1866MHz, which is standard for DDR3, but RAM clock rate doesn't matter unless it's substantially different, since it will probably always be a bottleneck for the CPU.
Storage: Hybrid HDD at 7200RPM, standard RPM for an HDD, but it is also a hybrid, so it has some SSD aspects too so it will be faster.
Video card: The GTX 760 is great, and 2GB is enough for the next 1-2 years. Nvidia is generally better than AMD.
Case: Corsair is a great brand.
Power supply: Again, Corsair is a great brand, and it is 80+ Bronze efficient, so it will be better on power usage.

I know you want AMD, but I don't have that much experience because I am an Intel+Nvidia guy.

Didn't include a monitor because I assumed you had one. I don't use optical drives because of Steam and Origin, and I feel like it is a waste of money with how digital games are all popular now. You can get Windows if you already have a license from and want to transfer your license to this computer. And there are ways to get it for free. I would recommend Windows 8.1, because games can run faster because of the DirectX 11.2, and Windows 8.1 will be getting DirectX 12, which will be the equivalent to AMD's Mantle, which is a low level graphics API so game developers can access the graphics card without a lot of bottlenecks.

OK, here's a pretty good one. It has a bit underpowered GPU (but still one of the best ones), but its still a good build for your purposes.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($107.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($41.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.56 @ Mwave)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($169.87 @ Mwave)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.98 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer V213HLBJbd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($148.94 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N150UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $718.28
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-27 18:48 EDT-0400)

Here, check out a few part-lists here, since I can't really take the time right now to post an entire part-list. I'll be able to in a while, just not this second.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Seghasivk/saved/

ThouGreatness What are you looking to do with this build, what's your budget, and does that budget include the OS?

Hey thanks for the response, as for the answers to your questions...

I am looking for a build that can run games well and doesn't get too hot. I may program a bit but I know I want an AMD CPU. I am hoping to achieve this for under 800 at the max, but I have seen good builds for like 500 and I wish I knew more about this sort of thing.

As for the OS, I've got a copy of windows 7 handy. (Not a fan of windows 8, sorry!)

Randomness3333Please answer Thou's questions. It will make putting together build much easier. Also, ask your friend if he wants to overclock.

Answered his questions. Also, the build is for me. Sorry if I didn't make that clear as I am running on like two hours of sleep. D:

I made a better build:

Click to reveal

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($107.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Pro3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($65.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Rosewill Line Glow ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.75 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer S220HQLAbd 21.5" Monitor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $713.33
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-27 16:12 EDT-0400)

-better cpu.
-No need for a aftermarket cpu cooler since you won't be overclocking with this motherboard.
-Better motherboard. The old mobo was on the 760G chipset which is long dead and many features of newer motherboards. Anybody getting a new rig should get at least a 970 chipset for AMD.
-Twice the ram for only 13$ more.
-Cheaper and same quality HDD.
-Cheaper 760 that is the same speed.
-Better PSU for cheaper. You want at least a 80+ Bronze rated PSU.
-Please whatever you do don't get that monitor, it is absolutely horrible. A 1920 x 1080 monitor is the smallest monitor that should be bought now.
You will also need an OS? Does your friend already have one?

And 57, there is no point in spending that much on your mobo/case and that little on your gpu. You can easily fit in an i5 and or a 760 with that build's price.

Thank you so much for spending your time editing my mistakes. I did answer Thou's questions and I do not plan on overclocking. I have taken your notes into account. You've been a big help, but maybe you could direct me to somewhere where I can learn a bit more? You're talking about chipsets and I get lost somewhere in there because I barely know what features are different in between them.

Oh yes and please do respond.

Please answer Thou's questions. It will make putting together build much easier. Also, as your friend if he wants to overclock.

I made a better build:

-better cpu.
-No need for a aftermarket cpu cooler since you won't be overclocking with this motherboard.
-Better motherboard. The old mobo was on the 760G chipset which is long dead and many features of newer motherboards. Anybody getting a new rig should get at least a 970 chipset for AMD.
-Twice the ram for only 13$ more.
-Cheaper and same quality HDD.
-Cheaper 760 that is the same speed.
-Better PSU for cheaper. Yo want at least a 80+ Bronze rated PSU.
-Please whatever you do don't get that monitor, it is absolutely horrible. A 1920 x 1080 monitor is the smallest monitor that should be bought now.
You will also need an OS? Does your friend already have one?

And 57, there is no point in spending that much on your mobo/case and that little on your gpu. You can easily fit in an i5 and or a 760 with that build's price.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Spbach/saved/3RC4

This is much better. If I were you, I'd start here with the not-so-good GPU,but everything else is much more future proof. You could start saving some money for a better video card in the future.

BombSFXI've debated quite a lot with myself over whether or not I should post this...

I could either seem like a moron who doesn't know ANYTHING about building PCs, or I could seem like I retained just a little bit of the information I gathered from a couple very kind people who explained a lot to me on TERA (I don't play it much anymore dontaskmek).

So I'll just post the link and you can help me out. Any feedback will be much appreciated, but please give me reasons. I don't learn anything from my mistakes if you just say it's horrible and leave me to wonder why.


Here's the link, thanks for checking it out:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3hdnM


(also any information or tips on building gaming pcs will be much appreciated.)

Also I'm like fourteen so this is a whole new world. (A very expensive world.)

What are you looking to do with this build, what's your budget, and does that budget include the OS?