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Opinion on PC
Hey guys I am looking to buy a cheap prebuilt PC for casual gaming. My budget is about $650. These are what I am looking at so far:
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-o ... Desktop-PC
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http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-o ... Desktop-PC
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-o ... Desktop-PC
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http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/home-o ... Desktop-PC
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^ If you are overclocking or using an AMD FX-series CPU, you might want a separate cooler for more efficiency and less noise. The Intel stock cooler is decent, but aftermarket coolers are actually worth their weight in forum posts.
redevilfiveDo I just receive a product key from them after I purchase one?
http://www.reddit.com/r/softwareswap/co ... al_i_will/
Here is the dude I trust, he will show you proof before you buy it too, he also takes gift cards, so if you have one laying around, you could use it for something useful. He also sends you a tool that allows you to download and install 8, and or a ISO file. (It's all legit too, none of it is pirated, well from him anyways, he got them from a huge college purchase.)
Ahh. I can see. Nvm.
Do I just receive a product key from them after I purchase one?
Also, do I need a cpu cooler?
Also, do I need a cpu cooler?
CPU cooler is recommended, its only like 20 bucks for a decent one, but you don't need one.
They will tell you what to do with the OS, but if you're not overclocking you wont need the CPU cooler.
^ this all the way
You could save 60ish dollars on the OS by going to reddit.com/r/softwareswap
(You'll have to find a trusted seller, but I have one on there, if you'd like a link to him.)
Then you could get a better looking case (imo), or just save money in general.
(You'll have to find a trusted seller, but I have one on there, if you'd like a link to him.)
Then you could get a better looking case (imo), or just save money in general.
A simple wifi adapter is like $15.
Ok, so here is the build I want: Crazyeagle or 57's build with a simple wifi usb to plug in. Hopefully that will only cost me mid 600's.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB FTW ACX Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N180UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($15.22 @ Amazon)
Total: $654.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB FTW ACX Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N180UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($15.22 @ Amazon)
Total: $654.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-24 22:29 EDT-0400)
HamsterProductions
I don't even have a wifi adapter on my other computers, yet they connect just fine without me having to connect my ethernet cable.
Then the motherboard has WiFi with it.
HamsterProductions
I don't even have a wifi adapter on my other computers, yet they connect just fine without me having to connect my ethernet cable.
Then they probably have built-in WiFi compatibility.
Also, no they don't have to be plugged in if you have a router
Yes you do, if its not plugged in and you dont have the adapter to pick up the wireless signal how do you think the internet gets to your pc.[/quote]
We all know that a router and a modem are 2 different things. I was saying what is the point of having a computer off your ethernet cable when it's a desktop.[/quote]
Alot of people dont know that or that they even exist.
The point of having your computer off your ethernet cable is that its easier and you dont have to buy an adapter. However, for alot of people their computer is not right next to their router thus its not reasonable to run cable all the way to it, and in that case you would use wifi.[/quote]
I don't even have a wifi adapter on my other computers, yet they connect just fine without me having to connect my ethernet cable.
HamsterProductionscrazyeagleIF you have a router, then you don't need an adapter.
Yes you do, you have to have something to pick up the signal put out by the router, besides that, a router and a modem are two different things.Also, no they don't have to be plugged in if you have a router
Yes you do, if its not plugged in and you dont have the adapter to pick up the wireless signal how do you think the internet gets to your pc.
We all know that a router and a modem are 2 different things. I was saying what is the point of having a computer off your ethernet cable when it's a desktop.
Alot of people dont know that or that they even exist.
The point of having your computer off your ethernet cable is that its easier and you dont have to buy an adapter. However, for alot of people their computer is not right next to their router thus its not reasonable to run cable all the way to it, and in that case you would use wifi.
crazyeagleIF you have a router, then you don't need an adapter.
Yes you do, you have to have something to pick up the signal put out by the router, besides that, a router and a modem are two different things.Also, no they don't have to be plugged in if you have a router
Yes you do, if its not plugged in and you dont have the adapter to pick up the wireless signal how do you think the internet gets to your pc.
We all know that a router and a modem are 2 different things. I was saying what is the point of having a computer off your ethernet cable when it's a desktop.
HamsterProductions
How far would your router have to be? Won't the computer be in the same house lol
Mine is in a room downstairs, so I can't use an ethernet cable. I'm just using some USB WiFi adapter and it works perfectly.
IF you have a router, then you don't need an adapter.[/quote] Only if your router is next to the computer. If it's a good distance away, you will need one.[/quote]
How far would your router have to be? Won't the computer be in the same house lol
How far would your router have to be? Won't the computer be in the same house lol
Wait, I have a modem... I was saying do the builds need to be plugged in with an ethernet cable or are they wireless.
He was confused, you made perfect sense. They have to be plugged in unless you buy one of the wifi adapters we were talking about.
Also, no they don't have to be plugged in if you have a router.
IF you have a router, then you don't need an adapter.
Yes you do, you have to have something to pick up the signal put out by the router, besides that, a router and a modem are two different things.
Yes you do, if its not plugged in and you dont have the adapter to pick up the wireless signal how do you think the internet gets to your pc.
Also, no they don't have to be plugged in if you have a router
Yes you do, if its not plugged in and you dont have the adapter to pick up the wireless signal how do you think the internet gets to your pc.
Only if your router is next to the computer. If it's a good distance away, you will need one.
How far would your router have to be? Won't the computer be in the same house lol[/quote]
Mine is in a room downstairs, so I can't use an ethernet cable. I'm just using some USB WiFi adapter and it works perfectly.[/quote]
Oh, I don't see the purpose of not having the computer on your modem. but, ok.
Mine is in a room downstairs, so I can't use an ethernet cable. I'm just using some USB WiFi adapter and it works perfectly.[/quote]
Oh, I don't see the purpose of not having the computer on your modem. but, ok.
u need a mac!
Go away.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB FTW ACX Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($18.93 @ B&H)
Total: $597.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-24 21:41 EDT-0400)
adding the wireless networking adapter the build would look like this.
Personally, I dont see the point in spending more to get a motherboard that supports SLI, when the graphics card you are purchasing doesnt.
Using the power supply 57 is recommending http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-po ... ply-cx430m may be a good choice, but its up to you to decide if the added convenience is worth the additional cost.
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB FTW ACX Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($18.93 @ B&H)
Total: $597.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-24 21:41 EDT-0400)
adding the wireless networking adapter the build would look like this.
Personally, I dont see the point in spending more to get a motherboard that supports SLI, when the graphics card you are purchasing doesnt.
Using the power supply 57 is recommending http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-po ... ply-cx430m may be a good choice, but its up to you to decide if the added convenience is worth the additional cost.
Does the motherboard include wifi on the original build? If not I would rather spend the extra money on getting a wifi adapter.
You don't have a modem? That is unusual.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB FTW ACX Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $578.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-24 21:21 EDT-0400)
So on this build the motherboard doesnt include wifi. If I was going to upgrade anything it would be the graphics. However, for casual games like minecraft, the 750ti is going to be more than enough. If you are thinking that you may want to play some more graphically intense games, then i would get something a bit better. Maybe a 660, or a 270x depending on what the pricing is.
If you want to get some idea of how they perform, heres some benchmarks http://www.techspot.com/review/783-gefo ... page3.html. Its kinda overwhelming, but theres 2 charts per game(theres multiple pages), just look at the frames per second one, and it will let you see how they perform in comparison.
If you are absolutely sure that you wont play anything other than casual games, I would stick with the 750ti, it will still be able to play titles on medium-high.
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB FTW ACX Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $578.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-24 21:21 EDT-0400)
So on this build the motherboard doesnt include wifi. If I was going to upgrade anything it would be the graphics. However, for casual games like minecraft, the 750ti is going to be more than enough. If you are thinking that you may want to play some more graphically intense games, then i would get something a bit better. Maybe a 660, or a 270x depending on what the pricing is.
If you want to get some idea of how they perform, heres some benchmarks http://www.techspot.com/review/783-gefo ... page3.html. Its kinda overwhelming, but theres 2 charts per game(theres multiple pages), just look at the frames per second one, and it will let you see how they perform in comparison.
If you are absolutely sure that you wont play anything other than casual games, I would stick with the 750ti, it will still be able to play titles on medium-high.
Keep in mind you won't be able to max out BF4 or Crysis 3 with this graphics card, it's kinda a Medium - High Settings video card for the latest games. If it's for minecraft, then it would do just fine, you can even add in some Sonic Ether's Unbelievable Shaders and you will probably get 60 - 100 FPS
If the mobo doesnt have it built in you will need to add a wifi adapter.
Mobo?
Motherboard
Which build are you planing on doing, and how soon are you buying?
Which build are you planing on doing, and how soon are you buying?
Yours and hopefully soon. Also, say my budget went to $650, could I upgrade it anymore?
Also, does the motherboard have wifi built in?
Also, does the motherboard have wifi built in?
At 650, you would basically be buying my build with the board that allows SLI and the semi - modular PSU, and no it doesn't. You can buy a PCIe slot WiFi adapter here http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-w ... rnxn250pce Or one that plugs into a USB socket here http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-w ... rnxn150ube
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB FTW ACX Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($18.93 @ B&H)
Total: $652.81
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-24 21:37 EDT-0400)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB FTW ACX Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($33.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($18.93 @ B&H)
Total: $652.81
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-24 21:37 EDT-0400)
Killertoadcrazyeagle
Disregarding the price, its an alright machine. The graphics card is a bit weak, but since you have stated that are playing casual games, it should be good enough.
Yeah, but why spend 700+ on a computer that can barely play BF4 on low at 40 fps?
I didnt say that he should
I just gave my opinion on the computer.
Alright I will probably just build. It seems the cheapest route and my friends have told me it isn't too hard to do so. Thanks to everyone, especially crazyeagle and 57 for the builds.
I had one more question, I already have a router so the builds you gave me can be wireless right? Or do they need to be attached with an ethernet cable?
I had one more question, I already have a router so the builds you gave me can be wireless right? Or do they need to be attached with an ethernet cable?
It will need a wireless adapter, i dont know if i included one or not, They come in ones that go in the pc like http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-w ... rnxn250pce or that plug into a usb port like this http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-w ... rnxn150ube
crazyeagle
Disregarding the price, its an alright machine. The graphics card is a bit weak, but since you have stated that are playing casual games, it should be good enough.
Yeah, but why spend 700+ on a computer that can barely play BF4 on low at 40 fps?
I just found out cyberpowerpc.com lets you pick your parts and they build it. What do you guys think of this one I customized?
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.50 GHz Six-Core AM3+ CPU 6MB L2 Cache & Turbo Core Technology
HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
MOTHERBOARD: GIGABYTE 970A-DS3P AMD 970 ATX w/ Ultra Durable 4 Classic, On/Off Charge, GbLAN, 2 PCIe x16, 3 PCIe x1, 2 PCI
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 1GB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
Price: $737.00
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.50 GHz Six-Core AM3+ CPU 6MB L2 Cache & Turbo Core Technology
HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
MOTHERBOARD: GIGABYTE 970A-DS3P AMD 970 ATX w/ Ultra Durable 4 Classic, On/Off Charge, GbLAN, 2 PCIe x16, 3 PCIe x1, 2 PCI
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 1GB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
Price: $737.00
Do not ever buy from them. they do okay on their CPU's and just give up on the GPU's. That's not worth $737, it's not even worth $450
It would probably be 450-500.
Disregarding the price, its an alright machine. The graphics card is a bit weak, but since you have stated that are playing casual games, it should be good enough.
Disregarding the price, its an alright machine. The graphics card is a bit weak, but since you have stated that are playing casual games, it should be good enough.
^ or just send a PM to the kitty lord of computers randomness
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220375 Since you said it was for casual gaming this one looks just about right, Its a bit cheaper than the budget a bit but it should be fine
I have already found a good prebuilt one but I think I am going to go the route of building my own.
Great choice! If you have any problems, ask here or on Tom's Hardware.
that's a good idea! have fun!
http://www.newegg.com/PCs-Laptops/Store you can get some good PCs here. I suggest getting one with windows 7 or install windows 7. Cause windows 8 Isn't very convenient for gamers and is known to make a lot of games crash often....
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