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What came first, the CHICKEN or the EGG?

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Hey guys, just thought that I would bring forth the world's greatest paradox...
Chicken.... or the EGG?

In my honest opinion, I believe that the Chicken came first. Due to Darwin's theory of evolution, technically some species turned into chickens over a long period of time... Then those chickens produced the EGGS!

Don't know if my theory is correct, any other opinions would be awesome! Lets get thinkin!
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07/03/2014 6:05 pm
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My theory is kinda mixed with some others.

Dinosaurs who don't lay eggs created dinosaurs that do. Those dinosaurs evolved into chickens.

Non-egg laying > egg laying > chicken

Pretty simple. I say that the chicken came first, except it hasn't evolved into a chicken yet.
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07/03/2014 5:57 pm
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ok ppl were getting mad at me on a server i play on bc i said the egg came first lol but heres what i say

i think the egg came first bc dinosaurs laid them or something like that and eventually from what became of the egg, evolved into what we know today as the chicken and plus egg
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07/03/2014 5:54 pm
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Noodles, and lots of them.
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07/03/2014 5:51 pm
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07/03/2014 12:39 am
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The egg.

A chickenlike animal laid an egg. Due to mutations, it hatched as the first modern chicken.
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07/02/2014 11:33 pm
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07/02/2014 11:12 pm
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Depends on your religion, honestly. I mean, if you're Christian, the chicken came first I believe. If you're another religion (or have no religion), that's up to you.
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07/02/2014 11:34 pm
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I'm not any religion but I would say the bacteria came first, the first egg is made by the thing evolved from bacteria which then evolved into a bird creature and started laying eggs. So umm bacteria came first since it makes up both.
Ya I'm one for strange explanations so don't question me on anything.
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07/02/2014 11:23 pm
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Mishkia
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I know what came first.

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The Rottweiler.
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07/02/2014 11:26 pm
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07/02/2014 1:33 pm
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I would laugh if this was the answer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia
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07/02/2014 12:44 pm
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I think kind of the same. But i think the egg came first. Whatever the chicken evolved from layed the egg, and out came the chicken =^.^=
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07/02/2014 12:39 pm
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The egg. Dinosaurs made eggs before chicken existed, and something just evolved into chickens I guess.
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07/02/2014 12:30 pm
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Well Eggs were around WAAAAYY before the first chicken. As for chicken eggs versus chicken I believe Chicken Eggs came first.
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07/02/2014 11:48 am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a8pI65emDE
This video thoroughly explains it.
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07/02/2014 12:18 pm
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Was going to post that too!
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07/02/2014 11:45 am
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chicken created well either the 5th day or the 6th im not quiet sure on that one
please do not argue with me... to many times people have flamed at me saying this type stuff i will not respond to you
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07/02/2014 12:07 pm
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^^^ That's what I think.

I'm not trying to turn this into a religious argument, I respect people's opinions. I won't say anymore relating religion to my opinion, I'll just say, I think the chicken was first.
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07/02/2014 10:43 pm
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I totally agree Swift. ^^
But, again, if the chicken were created with eggs inside of her, they would have both been created at the same time.
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07/02/2014 12:24 pm
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To answer the question, I believe according to the Bible it was the 6th. I agree with everything Swift, Spires, and OreoVal have said. Not going to contribute anything else.
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07/02/2014 11:17 am
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And who made the creator? The "creator" made everything? So the "creator" made himself. But for a being that can *magically* create things, with infinite knowledge, how does nothing become something of advancement and inovation.. out of nothing?

Atleast the big bang theory is alright. You will never be able to 100% prove a religion or science right, but regardless with the research done in general, science makes more sense.
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07/02/2014 11:36 am
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Please don't turn this into a religious argument. Everyone has already been warned that the thread will be locked :/
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07/02/2014 9:04 am
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My guess is that an egg-laying species (not a chicken) layed and egg which was fertilised by another species. It mutilated and became the species we now call chicken. If I'm wrong don't blame me, I'm only 14.
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07/02/2014 8:55 am
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If a "proto-chicken" laid an egg, it would look like the "proto-chicken". Then it would mutate after hatching. That chicken would lay an egg, mutate, lay an egg, etc.





So there's my theory.
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07/02/2014 6:55 am
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what the heck its so obviously the egg!!!

how do you make a mule - horse breed with donkey = horse came before mule

2 almost chicken bird species breed, lay an egg and hatches = chicken = egg came first!
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07/02/2014 6:23 am
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Dinosaurs laid eggs. Boom.
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07/02/2014 6:21 am
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Okay.. Well the egg probably came first as the chicken requires an egg to be born, the actual chicken could be a missborn duck. why not?
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07/02/2014 6:08 am
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Raging Baboon
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in terms of evolution the egg came first. so theoretically the egg did come first
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07/02/2014 6:05 am
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Well this is just a mystery... The egg or the chicken, could have gone first. There is Darwin's theory, and the theory of the animal coming first. If both have seemed to actually worked before, it's possible that an egg and a chicken were made at the same time. To sum it all up, we can't really know the real answer because there are many religous theories, and scientific ones.
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07/02/2014 5:42 am
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Just a note to say this'll get locked if it turns into a religious argument. I understand some peoples opinion on this, but please, "you're wrong I'm right" statements are silly.
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07/02/2014 5:06 am
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Well, if you truly think about it, the chicken is the eggs way of making another egg. If you think of Darwin's Theory of Evolution, an egg would have to come, and a genetic mutation would have to occur inside of said egg, thus over million of years, forming a chicken. So, I'd say that the egg came first, as a chicken would have to be born, and wouldn't randomly evolve at level 16 or something.
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07/02/2014 4:39 am
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The bird kind with the smaller beak would die out and the bird kind with the larger beak would live. The bird kind with the smaller beak didn't evolve into one with a larger beak, it simply died out and the larger beaked kind was all that was left.


I'm not sure if there are some animals or plants that are an exception to this. Would be interesting to explore.
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07/02/2014 4:31 am
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arlodee Professor Richard Dawkins offers decent arguments for evolution. The way evolution by natural selection works is, suppose there is a bird that lived by sticking its beak in flowers and eating nectar. Now, suppose there was another bird, with a larger beak than the other. The larger beak allows that bird the ability to extract more nectar from the flower. This bird would have a far greater chance of surviving the winter when there aren't many flowers around than the other bird. The longer that bird survives, the greater the chance is that it will spread its genes onto the next generation compared to the other bird. Fast forward to a million years past, and that species of bird would develop the ideal beak for harvesting nectar.

Chickens are often regarded as domesticated jungle fowls. I believe this should be taken into account when discussing whether the chicken or the egg were present first.


The bird kind with the smaller beak would die out and the bird kind with the larger beak would live. The bird kind with the smaller beak didn't evolve into one with a larger beak, it simply died out and the larger beaked kind was all that was left.
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07/02/2014 4:24 am
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I believe God created the chicken and then the chicken layed the egg.
He made each animal reproduce after it's kind. I don't think that if you're religious that you just think God made everything and there's no science. I don't. You can't study science and ignore God, God made science. Sorry to those who believe in it, I'm not meaning to offend you, but, evolution makes no sense. No matter how hard evolutionists try to prove it, they just can't. There have been some evolutionists that have studied it for years and proved nothing of it to be true, then finally accepted that it can't be proved and there is a Creator. But people believe it because it's the only alternative to believing there is a Creator.


Professor Richard Dawkins offers decent arguments for evolution. The way evolution by natural selection works is, suppose there is a bird that lived by sticking its beak in flowers and eating nectar. Now, suppose there was another bird, with a larger beak than the other. The larger beak allows that bird the ability to extract more nectar from the flower. This bird would have a far greater chance of surviving the winter when there aren't many flowers around than the other bird. The longer that bird survives, the greater the chance is that it will spread its genes onto the next generation compared to the other bird. Fast forward to a million years past, and that species of bird would develop the ideal beak for harvesting nectar.

Chickens are often regarded as domesticated jungle fowls. I believe this should be taken into account when discussing whether the chicken or the egg were present first.
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07/02/2014 4:18 am
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Xenon Neko
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Here's a ridiculous theory: Neither.
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07/02/2014 4:14 am
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With "EGG" I suppose you mean a chicken egg.

Anyway, in my opinion it really depends on what you call a "Chicken Egg": an egg laid by a Chicken or an egg with a Chicken inside?

If you go for the first definition, then the chicken was first as the chicken egg has to be laid by a chicken.

If you go for the latter difinition, then the chicken egg was first as some weird anchestor of the chicken eventually laid an egg with had a chicken inside (so a chicken egg by the difinition we picked). What means that the chicken egg was laid before the chicken hatched this egg.

It's really all about how you define what a chicken egg is. You can even go deeper into this problem and start wondering what exactly makes a chicken a chicken.... but that hurts my head, so I won't do that.
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07/02/2014 4:04 am
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When you generate a new world you see chickens, not walking eggs . So there you have it. The chicken.
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07/02/2014 4:05 am
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Averli
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True dat.
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07/02/2014 2:02 am
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Either way, they taste good.
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07/02/2014 4:02 am
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xD That's true!
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07/02/2014 1:33 am
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Depends on whether you're religious or not. BTW OP is wrong. If Darwin's theory is right then the EGG would come first because the animal that slowly mutated over time to become the chicken would have to lay the egg first. If you're religious, then the chicken would come first because of God. Either one could be right.
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07/02/2014 1:14 am
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Mishkia
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Its going to be one of these.

But just for the sake of semichickenoverhaul, I'm going with the raining eggs and the Enderman.

The enderman - Teleports all the eggs there, getting them from the Creative Inventory.

The eggs - rain creating chickens thanks to the Enderman.
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07/02/2014 1:10 am
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07/02/2014 1:30 am
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I was gonna reference this
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07/02/2014 1:02 am
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PizzaPenguin_God made the animals, meaning that the chicken came first.


Get with it, its the twenty freaking first century.

Hardly anyone here has said anything halfway intelligent, so I'm guessing, "what's the most expansive, human stupidity or the universe?".

Chickens evolved over thousands of years, as to which came first, neither. As far as we know everything evolved from amino acids, which eventually started simple chemical reactions, through simple processes such as natural selection and a ton of time, those slowly evolved. I'll be the first to tell you, even on a forum saturated with kids that an egg is just *man juice* "on steroids" *cliche*, so which came first? The egg, because from which the point something with the vital necessities to be called a chicken, the egg had already hatched, before then it was a different type of animal.
Quite frankly this is the stupidest thread I have ever seen on PMC.
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07/02/2014 12:04 am
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Chickennn


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07/01/2014 11:57 pm
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But then wouldn't it be accurate to assume that there were species producing eggs before anything evolved into a chicken, thus making the egg the first?


WHAT MADE THE EGG THEN?

God? :p I don't know XD
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07/01/2014 11:50 pm
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God made the animals, meaning that the chicken came first.


If you do happen to believe in evolution, though, here's my two cents. I'd say the egg came first. Certain animals evolved up until there was an egg that hatched a chicken. The egg may have came from a slightly different animal, but it hatched a chicken, it's a chicken egg, meaning that the egg came first.
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07/01/2014 11:41 pm
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Egg. Boom. BTW evolution ain't real.
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07/02/2014 1:29 am
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Okay, why do you think that?
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