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What's with all the new Minecraft Servers!!! Another [OFFICIAL RANT]

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avatar marcopolo84
Level 33 : Artisan Geek
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Wassup. It's MarcoPolo84 here again to complain about things that just tick me off. Hopefully, some of you guys feel my pain. If this annoys you, click the 'DIAMOND' button right now. Anyways, I'll cut to the chase.

I get extreamely annoyed when people create a server and then they submit it to Planet Minecraft or some other server list, and put little to no effort into it. I have done several blogs on how to make a good server because of my experience and mistakes I have made. I have seen servers where people make a screenshot of a small house with them in it. Then, they post that onto PMC expecting to get a butt ton of players. I have no probem with new servers but I can't stand when there are very low quality ones. I don't mean ones with no players. Those servers are just new servers. I am talking about servers that took little to no time to create. Some people actually go onto the forum asking people to host a server for them for FREE?!? This just boggles my mind.

Many people want to create a server even though they have NO experience or knowedge of this and the responsibility it takes to startup a server. Some people just expect peopel to crawl to them as if they want water to help them with their server. I once went onto a server and said I was a griefer and I was going to grief them as a joke. Turns out, that server kicks everyone off unless they have coding knowledge. These people probably could not code at all of even knew how to make a decent server. I spawned and it was just a regular survival world with no spawn or anything. It is becoming difficult to find a good, small server to play of with all the annoying Factions servers and just plain bad servers. I hope you guys agree with me.

If there is one piece of advice I can give you, it's that you should not create a server until you have been a staff member on a server. Being a staff member is kind of like running a server, but not as much responsibility as a server owner. You should go find a good server run by good people, can apply for staff. You will learn how Minecraft servers work and how they are managed before you go create your own. This is some advice that I should have followed a long time ago. Unless you are a graphic artist, ultimate Minecrafter, coder, and hardcore builder, you are going to need friends to help you. Anyways, thanks for reading and look out for more rant blogs and regular blogs! I am currently working on a yacht but I may abandon that project because it doesn't look too good. See you guys next time!

Edit: I have created at least 5 Minecraft Servers in the past 4 years I have been playing. I have had 0 success, and I think these servers are just too high maintenance to handle. I am just going to stick to being a staff member on a server or not at all. I have also removed my server from PMC.
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09/01/2014 8:09 am
Level 2 : Apprentice Explorer
youp0711
I almost made that mistake , thanks for letting me know! Diamonded
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06/03/2014 12:38 am
Level 21 : Expert Explorer
MalimbagerzPH
i really agree with this becuz i made a server and im a Co-Owner of another server before.
But my server is not yet fully opened becuz of HAMACHI.
soon i will have 3 servers  (PVP, Creative and Survival)
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06/02/2014 9:18 pm
Level 3 : Apprentice Miner
antlion126
i agree
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06/02/2014 4:34 pm
Level 51 : Grandmaster Ladybug
McJackson3180
yup
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06/02/2014 1:18 pm
Level 31 : Artisan Architect
TheSchnuff
I understand it... the servers I am admin on - I'm always trying to improve them...but somewhere is a limit of the quality from your server and you'll need for anything you want to improve, so don't set you standards too high.
But I know there are people that have no ideas how to manage or make their server...
they are like: "hello i has made a server join it and pay me money" and mostly the servers of these people aren't very different than tons of other servers of this kind.
In my experience I would say the best way to make your server be nice is just knowing a lot of different people like you said graphic artists, coders or builders...these people are the most important members you can have on your server.
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06/02/2014 9:55 am
Level 18 : Journeyman Network
Prism Network
You can always check out our server if you are in need of a small server :) Anyways i totally agree with this one as we did put alot of effort into our server and keep improving it every day! :)
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06/02/2014 9:43 am
Level 67 : High Grandmaster Modder
Surseance
At least they're wasting their own time and/or money (or possibly their parents') to upkeep these servers. It's their loss.
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06/02/2014 8:46 am
Level 15 : Journeyman Pokemon
EnchantedM
ikr. most people  these days don't even know what the difference is between a external and internal ip which is probably one of the most important things you should know. It just makes me laugh when a server has a thing is their buycraft store that costs more then the game its self. Back then servers were way simpler
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06/02/2014 8:02 am
Level 70 : Legendary Lad
BoehMod
Remember. You always start small. Getting minecraft in 2010 and getting a server 2 months in, there was no server lists. This rant  is good but you have to remember that these are probably kids and have only started new. Maybe they have not noticed your server tips? I do admit it would be better if they made a decent post like mine for example.
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06/03/2014 12:40 am
Level 21 : Expert Explorer
MalimbagerzPH
I AGREE!!!
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06/02/2014 9:08 pm
Level 1 : New Miner
Spidermatt
Well said!
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06/02/2014 7:57 am
Level 16 : Journeyman Artist
TheRedWolf
I can totally related to this blog. I took on the responsibility of becoming a network owner and I can say it definitely has its bad times, but being able to work out those problems and getting over the hump is whats important, and a lot of younger people who claim to know what theyre doing try to look past this. They think it's all fun and games, which it is, but do not understand the true challenges you face when running a server, let alone 8. I hope you get your point across Marcopolo. I really do. +Diamond
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06/02/2014 4:37 am
Level 41 : Master Botanist
Masstrix
My bets tip to having a good server is making cutom plugins mini games if its a mini games server and having very well done builds but some people just have noo idea on what it take to make a good server. I have been making my server for about 6 months now and still working on the plugins, main lobby and new mini games.


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06/02/2014 3:26 am
Level 20 : Expert Explorer
MiniMoose
People don't know exactly what a server is. Servers have (just until recently(recently being the last 10 years)) been used to store and trade data.... The begining of "websites". Remember that how "new" the internet still is. We don't even have proper laws in place for this anyways. Furhur more, unless you have past experience from being an IT, many people don't know nor give a flying rats brass about what is a server. All they know is that it is a program that connects their friends and that people make money off of them. One of the BIGGEST complaints I have towards minecraft servers in particular is Limiting functions of the game in order to recieve income. Unlike websites that offer a "free visit" to their paid site, in turn having you watch or deal with advertisements on the side of their sites. Minecraft servers can't do this(earning free money off of views). Inturn I see ALLOT of people limiting the BASIC FEATURES OF THE GAME for donations. My first question is Why? Why make others who haven't paid money suffer. Just because you're paying for something for us to use, doesn't mean we have to pay. We have the choice to "donate" towards your cause, but when you force us to pay, you aren't going to get anything. I hope many of you see this who have "donated" to servers. I'm not saying it's wrong, but do you really think they appreciated it? Yes they can give you items or a rank ingame, but do you really think they appreciate it as much as someone who doesn't?  I could see it being appreciated if you donated to a custom coded server, but just in general like a factions server in turn. The main issue I hate in servers is that the owners of them don't know the difference between the words "Donate" and "Buy".
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06/01/2014 2:29 pm
Level 18 : Journeyman Artist
[Excellex]
Great points but.. some are a little vivid. Many servers start out as cheesy servers but eventually within awhile they up their game when they notice they are wasting their money and/or resources. You can only really call them a failing/ cruddy server when its been atleast 1 week and a half and its still dead and/or not professional looking. I can agree on the factions servers, as there are simply too many than the community needs, yet people continue to make them for noone knows why. Honestly it irritates me when someone gets the idea: "Oh I want to be just like everyone else and make a server!". The issue with this attitude alot of players have is iffy. If you do make a server, and its just like every other server, what sets it apart or makes it unique? The answer: Nothing. In factions, this is the precise issue, theres so many that any new ones have nothing special to show.
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06/01/2014 3:26 pm
Level 33 : Artisan Geek
marcopolo84
I was going to do Factions for my server(That was months ago), but I was having lots of problems with it. I replaced it with KitPvP. Much better choice! I will need to add some stuff that makes the server special.
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06/01/2014 3:53 pm
Level 18 : Journeyman Artist
[Excellex]
Thats nice to hear, the community of Minecraft lacks originality, see what you can do to make yours stand out!
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06/01/2014 3:56 pm
Level 33 : Artisan Geek
marcopolo84
Thankfully, I have some friends who can help too.
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06/02/2014 9:09 pm
Level 1 : New Miner
Spidermatt
What's the IP? I love kitpvp!
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06/02/2014 9:19 pm
Level 33 : Artisan Geek
marcopolo84
It's 108.253.166.55 and the server is open from 3-5pm EST each day.
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06/01/2014 1:55 pm
Level 1 : New Miner
KyleGavin
Everyone has to start somewhere. My first minecraft server was not the best, but i asked for feedback for what the players wanted and what they did not like about my server. 10 days down the road i fixed/added everything. My player average per hour went from 4 to 6 and people started to become regulars. I lost that player joins the server stay's 2 minutes and never comes back, i had my own fishing hook. This story turned out to not be a happy ending. I left it to die on a host only updating the spigot jar and plugins, my small staff team took care of everything in-game. You can compare this to a garden, when you think about what happens when you spend 5 minutes a day working on your garden you will understand.

My point is that this rant is 40% correct, you need effort for a minecraft server. The other 60% is just trying to crush dreams.
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06/01/2014 11:45 am
Level 30 : Artisan Architect
Darkhawkz7z
After reading this, my opinion was easly formed: This blog ...is self intitled nonsence.

One person with no server excperience has absolute juristiction over their own ideas and education. Creating a minecraft server, specificly building one on your own personal computer is education in itself. 
Once you're done port fowarding, setting up permissions for countless hours, modifying plugins, researching error after error, and eventually figuring out that the reason for ___ is because of __, you have enough knowledge to start a succeful server.
Unless being a staff member means having full access to server files, I highly doubt that having no excperience as a Mod, Admin, etc would be enough to stop someone from creating a server, and posting it on PMC.

See, I would agree with you if the internet didn't exist. All you have to do is go on youtube, and heck, you could learn how to build a car using only 600 bucks. You don't need excperience to run a Minecraft server. As long as you're motivated by the idea, and semi good with people, you're all set.  No one as the right to tell you otherwise.

I think that the same concept you used applies to blogs as well. Every day someone else has something personal that they feel the world has to know, so they spam PMC with blogs.

This isn't a personal attack. Like everyone and their grandmother, i'm just a critic.

I can't wait for the hateful replys.
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06/01/2014 7:49 pm
Level 36 : Artisan uwu
VoidPanda
Basically what I thought, only another flaw I saw was "if you have x experience with being x you can do x" what if they never have been, and thats why they were making the server? To learn. People do that... And most folk only choose "Those who have experience" instead of people who just "Want to know what its like and how to survive it and ext" so they can't get experience there, so once again like said before they make a server to learn and teach themselves. But yeah, I 99% thought exactly what above said.
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06/01/2014 10:09 pm
Level 30 : Artisan Architect
Darkhawkz7z
That's a good point, and it helps further my own. Thanks for the reply, and it's good to know i'm not the only one in this boat.
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06/01/2014 10:11 pm
Level 36 : Artisan uwu
VoidPanda
No problem.
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06/01/2014 1:45 pm
Level 64 : High Grandmaster Loremaster
Balderich
I completely agree!
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06/01/2014 12:31 pm
Level 33 : Artisan Geek
Skullduggerycain
I agree 100%.
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06/03/2014 12:42 am
Level 21 : Expert Explorer
MalimbagerzPH
i Agree 1000%!!!!!!
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06/01/2014 5:06 am
Level 59 : Grandmaster Baconator
monkeyfunk26
Another piece: start small. Practice server management with just you and a handful of friends on a completely vanilla or minimal Bukkit server, pick up tips and trick along the way, and eventually learn to make a larger and larger server.

And also, like you said become a mod somewhere so you can learn how to handle player interactions.
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06/01/2014 9:57 am
Level 33 : Artisan Geek
marcopolo84
I agree. You shouldn't start with trying to run something as large as Mineplex(Its sarcasm). Especially at my age. Plus, starting up a server can take up all your time so you should be aware of that.
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06/01/2014 2:15 am
Level 2 : Apprentice Network
Redstone_wired
Ive been planning on making a server, reviewing hosts, looking at spawns for inspiration and building mock spawns of my own, researching the popularity of difrent kinds of servers, Ive been doing all that and some more for about 3 months now and getting practice as a Dev/Admin for 2 servers, do you think I should make the server or hold of a bit longer? im trying to decide that atm.
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06/01/2014 2:12 am
Level 47 : Master Robot
RezzedUp
Well said.
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06/01/2014 9:56 am
Level 33 : Artisan Geek
marcopolo84
Thanks!
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