About 6 months ago or so, as some of you might remember, there was a big talk about EULA: https://account.mojang.com/documents/minecraft_eula
Well, I have noticed that a lot of servers still don't care about it.
And I am wondering if our server that me and my friends are currently working on should listen to this rule.. We need donations to run the server and EULA isn't helping the cause.. We know that we can receive donations for accessory items, but that wouldn't bring enough money to run a stable server... And as I said before no servers really care, and still have the donation system with game changing perks..
So should we care about EULA?
Well, I have noticed that a lot of servers still don't care about it.
And I am wondering if our server that me and my friends are currently working on should listen to this rule.. We need donations to run the server and EULA isn't helping the cause.. We know that we can receive donations for accessory items, but that wouldn't bring enough money to run a stable server... And as I said before no servers really care, and still have the donation system with game changing perks..
So should we care about EULA?
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Here's an interesting article I found on the subject: https://mojang.com/2014/06/lets-talk-server-monetisation-the-follow-up-qa/
From what I can tell, there are still many ways a server can raise money (such as giving cosmetic perks to donators). However, some of the main ways servers receive "donations" (special abilities, pvp kits) seem to go against the updated EULA. Anything that gives a player an in-game advantage and is bought using real money is not allowed. This is not the end of for-profit servers; it just makes it slightly more difficult for them to raise cash.
From what I can tell, there are still many ways a server can raise money (such as giving cosmetic perks to donators). However, some of the main ways servers receive "donations" (special abilities, pvp kits) seem to go against the updated EULA. Anything that gives a player an in-game advantage and is bought using real money is not allowed. This is not the end of for-profit servers; it just makes it slightly more difficult for them to raise cash.
S_HackerIf you want to host a server, fund most of it yourself instead of forcing the players to fund the server and have a bad experience if they don't.
I would love to host a server, but there's no way I can host one if I can't even make as much as I'm spending on it. It would be fun, but it would also be an impractical waste of money, and it'll all go to waste unless I get even more money to pour into it.
DuckgodI thought this was about EULA, not texture packs.
Yes. It is. EULA has absolutely nothing to do with texture packs.
JokerplanAbout 6 months ago or so, as some of you might remember, there was a big talk about EULA: https://account.mojang.com/documents/minecraft_eula
Well, I have noticed that a lot of servers still don't care about it.
And I am wondering if our server that me and my friends are currently working on should listen to this rule.. We need donations to run the server and EULA isn't helping the cause.. We know that we can receive donations for accessory items, but that wouldn't bring enough money to run a stable server... And as I said before no servers really care, and still have the donation system with game changing perks..
So should we care about EULA?
Just fyi take into consideration most start up servers fail and never get donations. Trust me ive restarted my server at least 5 times and ive only made maybe $60 in donations. And thats over like 4 years. But in reality, your choice. You can always run the server and ask for donations and make kits and risk legal issues, which usually isnt a big deal with small servers, but you will always be taking the risk of being caught and have to deal with the consequences. Or, just buy a really small server you can pay by yourself for a couple months, see how it goes, either realize nobody is getting on, or realize people are getting on and you could make money to pay for the server and experiment with the legal way of getting donations.
http://www.reddit.com/r/admincraft/comm ... sts_using/
"I pay for most of the costs myself, I'm not too fussed whether people donate or not. We offer coloured nicknames to those who donate (it seems to be rather popular)."
"I have a job and Minecraft is a hobby. No need to annoy my players."
- Comments
Really worth a read to any server owners.
"I pay for most of the costs myself, I'm not too fussed whether people donate or not. We offer coloured nicknames to those who donate (it seems to be rather popular)."
"I have a job and Minecraft is a hobby. No need to annoy my players."
- Comments
Really worth a read to any server owners.
Does anyone know the server LavaCraft? I would report them but it's my favourite server, soooooo.........
And also if I said anything in chat about reporting them I would probably get banned.
And also if I said anything in chat about reporting them I would probably get banned.
S_HackerIf you want to host a server, fund most of it yourself instead of forcing the players to fund the server and have a bad experience if they don't.
^^^^
I'm getting a little bit off topic here, but if you have to rely on other people to pay for your own server every month, then you shouldn't even think about having one in the first place.
This is why I'm looking for a job before I even think about starting a server.
If you want to host a server, fund most of it yourself instead of forcing the players to fund the server and have a bad experience if they don't.
Or, you can go ahead and make a crappy pay2win server.
It's stupid how this is still being debated on. The EULA is a good thing.
Or, you can go ahead and make a crappy pay2win server.
It's stupid how this is still being debated on. The EULA is a good thing.
Some server can be P2W, but it all depends on the system, I have played on different servers where the kits given out to donors aren't that overpowered in the slightest, it just gives the donors a way to contribute to the server and have a little more possibilities.
There a servers that give out a stack of gapples everyday, and custom prot 10 enchants for 500$ etc. that is P2W... But if you find a stable system that gives donors a tiny advantage, then there is nothing bad about it.
People who don't donate might take a little longer to get rich again after being raided, while donators might take a little less time... If you ask me that is not P2W in any way.
You need to find good servers instead of complaining about the few that have a P2W system...
And yes, we realize this, and we can host a server for quite a while if that's what we desire, but obviously at some point we would need donations, server hosting isn't the cheapest of things, and donations is a great way to keep an owner working on the server, who wants to pay a ton of money for something they don't get anything from?
There a servers that give out a stack of gapples everyday, and custom prot 10 enchants for 500$ etc. that is P2W... But if you find a stable system that gives donors a tiny advantage, then there is nothing bad about it.
People who don't donate might take a little longer to get rich again after being raided, while donators might take a little less time... If you ask me that is not P2W in any way.
You need to find good servers instead of complaining about the few that have a P2W system...
Magicman88999S_HackerIf you want to host a server, fund most of it yourself instead of forcing the players to fund the server and have a bad experience if they don't.
^^^^
I'm getting a little bit off topic here, but if you have to rely on other people to pay for your own server every month, then you shouldn't even think about having one in the first place.
This is why I'm looking for a job before I even think about starting a server.
And yes, we realize this, and we can host a server for quite a while if that's what we desire, but obviously at some point we would need donations, server hosting isn't the cheapest of things, and donations is a great way to keep an owner working on the server, who wants to pay a ton of money for something they don't get anything from?
I see what you're getting at, but it isn't always possible for someone to pay for their server out of their own pockets; a server with 500+ is definitely gonna cost more than one with 10.
And in my eyes, I don't see it as forced really. Say if you do happen to run across a "pay to win" server, if that's truly the case, you can simply log off. But their's also servers where you'll need to pay or donate to recieve a reward or something along those lines. Honestly, people these days won't just generously donate to help out the server, they want something out of it.
The choice is all up to the player. It's their money after all.
And in my eyes, I don't see it as forced really. Say if you do happen to run across a "pay to win" server, if that's truly the case, you can simply log off. But their's also servers where you'll need to pay or donate to recieve a reward or something along those lines. Honestly, people these days won't just generously donate to help out the server, they want something out of it.
The choice is all up to the player. It's their money after all.
True I remember when nearly all big servers had an optional donation to help fund the server which was optional, and out of generosity. As often people who did donate liked the server and wanted to help to keep it afloat, even when most of the times you did not receive anything in return ie, no perks, pay to win stuff.
Now it seems that sadly this mentality has changed and most people now ask question: What will I get out of it?
It is truly sad .
Now it seems that sadly this mentality has changed and most people now ask question: What will I get out of it?
It is truly sad .
If they're not going after big name servers like Hypixel's, then why would they bother with small servers?
Honestly, I don't think we need to take it too seriously.
(I'm not condoning this, but) It's kind of like pirating movies/games/whatever. Sure it's illegal and the fines and penalties are unforgiving, but no one really ever gets caught. At least, I never hear stories on the news of pirates being arrested/caught/etc.
Honestly, I don't think we need to take it too seriously.
(I'm not condoning this, but) It's kind of like pirating movies/games/whatever. Sure it's illegal and the fines and penalties are unforgiving, but no one really ever gets caught. At least, I never hear stories on the news of pirates being arrested/caught/etc.
From what I can see, everything in the Hypixel store is purely cosmetic so it doesn't violate the EULA to begin with.
...unless it's changed since I last looked at it which was around the time the entire "EULA IS EVIL" thing started
...unless it's changed since I last looked at it which was around the time the entire "EULA IS EVIL" thing started
The fact is that your server can be reported, your account can be banned, and you can face legal problems if you choose not to follow the EULA.
To me, that isn't worth the risk.
To me, that isn't worth the risk.
