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    wemja
    05/29/2015 8:23 pm
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    Azie
    There's a reason given for every submission removal, with the exception of stuff like someone uploading 12 stolen skins. One skin would be removed with some message stating "only upload content that's entirely made by you", while the other 11 would be deleted without a message left. They were all removed for the same reason, so there's no point in saying the same thing 11 extra times.


    yes of course, it would be a waste of time typing that every time.

    thanks for letting me know about how the rules are enforced and our role in keeping junk packs off the site.
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    wemja
    05/29/2015 8:01 pm
    Level 3 : Apprentice Crafter
    Well i see how the system is supposed to work, i guess its ok.
    I am now going along flagging all packs that made minimal edits but tried to cover it with using vanilla placeholders.
    Not only do they not meet the 50% rule they are also useless for stacking.
    It is surprising how many of these packs slipped past the radar even when they are easily detected by a duplicate image finder.

    It is possible that i am forgetting to flag the packs that can be used for stacking but no one can blame me for that right...

    If a pack is deleted because it becomes popular the maker will see that it is a good idea. I hope that there is an explanation given why it was deleted so he can improve his pack.
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    wemja
    05/29/2015 7:11 pm
    Level 3 : Apprentice Crafter
    well ok, i guess that the current system is not so bad then.
    As long as people like a pack that is not following the 50% rule and do not report it it will stay.
    That is ok i guess, that gives a chance to quality pack to stay and removes stolen/bad stuff.

    A rule change is not really needed in that case.
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    wemja
    05/29/2015 6:22 pm
    Level 3 : Apprentice Crafter
    Pepijn
    wemja
    The main point i was making was that packs with a random 50% that is edited are actually worse then packs that edit a certain part.


    What? You're just guessing in the dark here and assuming a lot of stuff....


    wemjaAbout the spam reducing factor, have you looked at the recently uploaded page ? most of the time at least 40% of the packs are spam or does not meet the 50%rule.
    I am pretty sure that i can still find 10 packs uploaded in the last 2 weeks that did not edit 50% (and a lot of spam pack are already deleted).


    Indeed, now imagine what would happen if they lower the requirements even more...



    I am not guessing in the dark, lets take a random 55% of all textures. If you edit these you will get an incoherent pack that is not good on its own and impossible to stack with another pack. I know this is an extreme(worst case) example but it is allowed right.

    If you have a pack that edits only a part of the textures (all food items for example)
    But the whole category you can use it on top of almost all packs. The worst case scenario is that its too small and irrelevant.



    About the spam like it is nowadays, do you really think that there are people who do not post because of the 50% rule?
    None even cares or knows its there, it is not stopping anyone.
    If most people don't read it it would make sense to make the rules a bit more up to date and enforce them more. Now there are exceptions made and that makes the rules look more like arbitrary guidelines then rules.
    There are "WIP packs" posted 2 months ago that got one or 2 updates in the days folowing the release and never even came close to the 50% rule. Somehow they are still taking space on this site without anyone ever wanting to use them.

    An individual screening of every pack that is posted is the only way to reduce spam significantly.
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    wemja
    05/29/2015 5:13 pm
    Level 3 : Apprentice Crafter
    Azie
    To revise my original statement, there's no way I'd ever support allowing less content than we currently require to be posted as a submission. Our current requirements aren't demanding at all. While I realize that this does limit some artists, like the examples your refered to (nature pack, nether pack, etc.), it also prevents a great deal of spam. If artists want to share packs like those that don't meet our sectional 50% requirement, they're welcome to do so in the forum.


    The main point i was making was that packs with a random 50% that is edited are actually worse then packs that edit a certain part.

    I think we can all agree that Patches33001's better skies is a pack that is quality content even if it does not follow these rules.
    If he would add block textures it would limit the possibilities.
    People are now able to use the pack on top of their favorite pack for items/textures.

    About the spam reducing factor, have you looked at the recently uploaded page ? most of the time at least 40% of the packs are spam or does not meet the 50%rule.
    I am pretty sure that i can still find 10 packs uploaded in the last 2 weeks that did not edit 50% (and a lot of spam pack are already deleted).
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    wemja
    05/29/2015 4:42 pm
    Level 3 : Apprentice Crafter
    Azie
    The Rules"The rule of thumb for resource packs is that they must change at least 50% of all blocks or items, or all of the sounds or user interface elements, to be posted."

    That right there allows people to do what you're talking about.

    The "50% rule" refers to needing to complete at least 50% of any "major section". "Major section" refers to any section listed by our rules:

    The Rules"blocks or items, or all of the sounds or user interface elements"


    Who are you talking to when you say "That right there allows people to do what you're talking about."?

    In case you were talking about the OP, i don't see how that would include the examples i gave.
    Can you explain what you meant ?
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    wemja
    05/29/2015 3:50 pm
    Level 3 : Apprentice Crafter
    In the rules it states "The rule of thumb for resource packs is that they must change at least 50% of all blocks or items."
    Meaning that they can release a pack with item textures and a pack with block textures.
    Nothing is stopping them from doing this but it would just overcomplicate stuff.
    Something that is often done is offer smaller packs or alternate textures on the page itself. This also makes a lot more sense and increases the chance that the thing is actually downloaded.
    People are lazy so for ever click they need to make more to get something the less downloads you will get as a creator.
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    wemja
    05/29/2015 3:38 pm
    Level 3 : Apprentice Crafter
    This is not true, adblock blocks the adds from the add server, if the image is not shown there will not be add revenue for pmc.

    However it may be that this is a pmc add. in that case its fair that you block this site.

    I use adblock but I disable it for most site I often visit and that deserve the money.
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    wemja
    05/29/2015 12:02 pm
    Level 3 : Apprentice Crafter
    badboy3246This thread is for the staff of PMC to read.

    Hello, I'm having a problem with your website. I'm not sure if it's client or server side (Me or you) but every time I go to a new page, every time I make a post, every time I do something that requires the page to change. I get a stupid ad that comes up taking the whole section of my screen, notifying me about "DC Universe" I know how ads work, and how if you visit a certain website and go to a different one, you'll see suggested ads on that previous website. But never have I done anything related to that ad. Anyway, if this is a problem that can be fixed, please do so. It's really annoying. Thanks


    Do you use mac or windows, do you have a virusscan installed.
    I have never had this issue so it may be client-side.
    Did you have this on other websites too?
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    wemja
    05/29/2015 11:22 am
    Level 3 : Apprentice Crafter
    Pepijn nothing is stopping people nowadays to uploads their block and item textures separately. Even tough they are allowed to do so (technically) they are not doing it because its counter productive.
    I am quite sure that people will put all files together in one post (except when you are sphax, in that case you are unable to put all versions in one post).

    The 50% was needed when you could only have 1 pack at the time.
    Packs that had less then 50 would not be downloaded and thus seen as "bad content".
    For those circumstances I totally agree with that rule, 50% is even on the low side.
    Today the situation is totally different.
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    wemja
    05/26/2015 9:12 pm
    Level 3 : Apprentice Crafter
    just try it, place the pencils and say nothing and just move around.

    You will see that they move, it has to do with the air and not with ghost or whatever.
    One of the people in the group is faking the results by slightly blowing the pencils.

    I hope you feel safer now.
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    wemja
    05/24/2015 3:59 pm
    Level 3 : Apprentice Crafter
    Hey lorpie I suggest you read the things that were posted before my comment.
    I did not look at the profile in time but when you looked at the typed text is was rather confusing.
    Now that he gave us more background it is clear why he could not restart his pc.
    The reason I said reset and not format is because restart and reset look similar and are thus easier to mix up.
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    wemja
    05/24/2015 3:47 pm
    Level 3 : Apprentice Crafter
    I am sorry this was not meant as an insult,
    I wrote the first line and posted it and only later realized that you had "master programmer" as a title. I edited the post quite poorly when I noticed that.

    I am happy that your pc is fixed now.
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    wemja
    05/24/2015 3:20 pm
    Level 3 : Apprentice Crafter
    He does not understand the difference between restart and reset.

    this seems unlikely since he is a "master programmer" but I guess English is not his native language
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    wemja
    05/24/2015 5:36 am
    Level 3 : Apprentice Crafter
    Azie
    Not true. I've been told by our Super Mods that they can transfer ownership of submissions to a new account. The original creator of the submission and the new owner just need to request it. Perhaps this is no longer accurate information, but I figured I'd put it out there.


    Ok I was not aware of that, maybe make it a bit more known. Is there away for the original creator to get his submission back if the new owner just goes or neglects it ?
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    wemja
    05/23/2015 7:53 pm
    Level 3 : Apprentice Crafter
    I think its normal that people leave after a while, especially when we look at minecraft. There is only a select core of people that played since alpha and is still around and playing.

    Like Pikamoar said :
    The reasons people leave typically boil down to three reasons. They move on in life, something more important comes up, or they just get fed up with everything.


    I am sure that when its the first or second reason people wont mind if someone continue's their work.
    That's why i think there should be an option (for mods and texturepacks) to give another user temporary or permanent access to projects so they can maintain them.
    The only way to do this now is to give your login to your account or to let them make a new page. A better solution would be to give another account permission to edit one single project.
    If a temporary "legal guardian" is appointed they can edit the page but this option can be revoked at any time by the original creator.
    If a permanent "legal guardian" is appointed by the creator they can pass it on to a 3rd person when they are unable keep maintaining it.

    This way we can keep some awesome projects from dying (I am looking at the OCD pack for example)
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