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avatar PioneerRock
Level 3 : Apprentice Network
As a former staff member, from being a Moderator, Admin, or even the server Owner that I am now, there is one thing that new members constantly do that never fails to make me the most annoyed that I have been all day. New players joining your server and immediately typing "Can I staff" or "Can I be Mod" or "Can I be Admin", sometimes with spelling errors, or even gramatical mistakes, is one of the most unbearable things that I can seem to read in MineCraft's chat bar. I cannot stand the way that some players expect that just because they joined, they should be a member of the staff. They are not entitled to anything, yet they make it seem as if they deserve to be a member of the staff. It disturbs me even more that some of them actually expect to "acheive" the rank.

On every server that i have been a staff member on, I played for hours upon hours, making myself comfortable with the players and staff before I even applied, thinking that I even had a chance at being accepted. On my first server, I applied 10 times over the course of a year, and watched 12 Moderators be picked before me before finally acheiving the rank of TrialMod, to get cut from it shortly after. This was in 1.8 beta. Even after each rejection, I kept playing and kept applying until i finally did get the rank, and yes, I was focuse on staff member, but i wanted to play the game more than get a rank. My problem with most of the current players is that they will leave as soon as they are rejected, or you dont read their app, or you say they dont get to apply. I've seen a player quit my server because I took away his TrialMod rank! 

One thing that every new and upcoming server needs is dedicated players, and they just keep getting harder to obtain because most of the players that I receive after posting on a forum, bumping on the PMC list, or other forms of getting the IP out, all they do is ask for a rank, and leave as soon as they dont get it. There has to be some common sense where they realize, "hmmm, I probably wont get staff member if I only play 5 minutes to see if i can get it" but it seems as if many of them dont even have that. 

Also, this may be a bit off topic, but I also feel that getting dedicated players on a smaller server are harder to obtain. First of all, players are lesslikely to stay in a smaller community, with less action on a server. Also, not specifically on PMC, but on other listing sites, all the big servers drown out the small ones with huge amounts of votes, players, and the scores are through te roof, therefore not providing small servers with the players they need in order to grow. The reason that the small servers get all the staff beggar is because they know they can't get it on the larger ones, so they try their luck with us.

I;ve seen planety of servers with problems like this that have escalated in to something truly ugly, the spamming of chat of the requests that they beleive are entitled to getting a rank overflows the chat.

I know that this rant of sorts may sound a tad bit harsh, but if a player is going to join to only ask for staff, they must think the Owner is some sort of a gibbon. The thought of even considering to make one of the 'staff beggars' a moderator is somewhat apalling to me.

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Edit: Small servers attract these players : 07/12/2014 12:37:24 pmJul 12, 2014

Added section about how small servers attract these players easier

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  • philpres2
  • Level 17
  • Journeyman Warrior
  • July 17, 2014, 8:02 pm
I completely agree! I wouldn't mind modding a player after they played on the server and showed that their a dedicated player. I won't mind what their age is, but if they lie about it it would end the promotion right there. I never had an issure with age, just the trust between me and the player.
  • Starfire1337
  • Level 14
  • Journeyman Modder
  • July 17, 2014, 7:59 pm
Agreed, every time i bump my post, about 5-7 people come, at least 2-4 ask for staff. If they don't get it immediently or get a pm from me saying you have to play 20 hours first (Our server's min requierment), they immediently leave. I even had one person swear and cuss at me because I would not give him staff.
Agreed. I own a 20 player active server and once I bump my planet minecraft around 5-10 people will join mimmual 25 percent would say that want staff.
  • PioneerRock
  • Level 3
  • Apprentice Network
  • July 13, 2014, 11:40 am
I know, i play on that server of yours! :)

I wish my server was that active though lol
Thanks man I hope you enjoy!
  • Geekles
  • Level 9
  • Apprentice Network
  • July 12, 2014, 3:43 am
I own a server and I totally agree. I've seen players who would join and ask for op and just keep on asking and not even move. Till a point where I mute them jail them kick them or maybe even ban them (or tempban)
  • Endersteve
  • Level 37
  • Artisan Mage
  • July 12, 2014, 12:25 am
And then you have those buttkissers who are always acting like a perfect little peach.
I knew someone who did this, the owner was stupid enough to promote him and after, he became the biggest jerk i know (And is second on my list of MC jerks)

And i know people actully want to help but they don't make it so blatently obvious thay want OP/Staff.
Well alot of people seem to abuse their commands when they are higher ranked
Once they are a higher rank alot of players think they are not allowed to pvp
My question is :
Why do they think that
  • CerysCece
  • Level 4
  • Apprentice Modder
  • July 10, 2014, 11:50 pm
And they ask "How do you apply?" and your like Wtf dude that proves you have never been staff on a server. Then they lie their age. -_-
  • PioneerRock
  • Level 3
  • Apprentice Network
  • July 11, 2014, 9:58 am
Ikr, I always tell them the website and how to and stuff, but i follow that with "Don't expect to get it if you don't play"
  • CerysCece
  • Level 4
  • Apprentice Modder
  • July 10, 2014, 11:48 pm
I agree, That happens on my srever too.
I agree.
This is what I do when someone asks you for admin or another rank, /tellraw <player> {"text":"You are now op!","color":"yellow"}
  • PioneerRock
  • Level 3
  • Apprentice Network
  • July 10, 2014, 5:51 pm
I've done that a few times hahaha
  • Ajoyboy
  • Level 30
  • Artisan Sailor
  • July 10, 2014, 1:13 pm
Children enjoy feeling powerful over other players.
  • Hunajameloni
  • Level 73
  • Legendary Pixel Puncher
  • July 10, 2014, 11:58 am
Agree. I used to own small survival server and new people just kept asking for rank and how to apply -.-
  • PioneerRock
  • Level 3
  • Apprentice Network
  • July 10, 2014, 12:42 pm
I know, its awful and annoying isnt it?
  • Wolfy404
  • Level 1
  • New Network
  • July 10, 2014, 8:51 am
I actually turn down most of the requests I get for being a part of staff.
  • IDKCharlie
  • Level 29
  • Expert Archer
  • July 10, 2014, 7:25 am
I completely agree. I used to own a server and I had a small staff (I trusted them). Like every third player to join would ask for staff or ask if they can apply. I'd reject them, and once in awhile they would continue to play after being rejected (I actually awarded some of them in game for good sportsmanship with items Lol). I've also gotten the "I'm from Mc Server List" "I'm from Planet Minecraft" etc.
  • PioneerRock
  • Level 3
  • Apprentice Network
  • July 10, 2014, 10:04 am
The pretend website staff happens often aswell, its all because of some stupid YouTube videos some people made, and the mindless players go around trying to get OP using that technique
  • bigf
  • Level 15
  • Journeyman Hunter
  • July 9, 2014, 9:45 pm
"but if a player is going to join to only ask for staff, they must think the Owner is some sort of a gibbon."

Do not underestimate the powah of the gibbon

But yeah, in all seriousness, this is pretty true.
  • cbeeston1
  • Level 34
  • Artisan Spleefer
  • July 9, 2014, 8:34 pm
This is 100% true on Mineplex. People have become mindless helping zombies that are kissing arse for a chance to get helper. When someone in chat says something twice, even by accedent, everyone in chat says. 'Please do not spam (name), it is an offense which resulted in being muted.' I did my fair share of kissing arse on Mineplex, but it has got really bad over there.

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