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Miners need cool shoes. We've all seen it. Maybe some of you have used it. But what im trying to get across is that MNCS is not making your own skin, (unless of course you didn't use the armoury or steal any parts in which case fair play :P). When your using the MNCS armoury your not using your own creativity, your just stealing some parts that someone else has uploaded and claiming them as your own. Is that really making a skin? I think not. Feel free to share your own opinions.

Update #3 : 11/28/2011 11:31:58 am11/28/11

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Update #1 : 11/19/2011 4:26:02 pm11/19/11

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Using other people's parts of skins is a choice; it's not required to do. If you have a problem with this fact, then you should say it's the user's problem, not the sites. It's the user that chooses to use parts of a skin...
  • Headofire
  • Level 1
  • New Miner
  • March 17, 2016, 5:31 am
Well you cant delete.
I use it because it's easy, and I always start from scratch. :I
I agree. I know  this is months ago, but i need another place to make skins.
  • Maura
  • Level 1
  • New Explorer
  • July 23, 2015, 10:50 pm
mncs is wear some ppl call there 2nd home me and my friends dont steal and if we use a part from some1 we always credit ik most ppl dont but dont say we ALL r like that!
  • +Silver+
  • Level 7
  • Apprentice Narwhal
  • July 23, 2015, 10:31 pm
MNCS is like my home away from home. I know at least my friends and I don't steal and use other skins only if we need to with credit. If you insult anyone there I am willing to defend them with life.  Whenever we see stealers we report them and try to get them to stop. Don't assume everyone there steals, my friends and I don't at least. All 381 of us.
  • Maura
  • Level 1
  • New Explorer
  • May 22, 2015, 2:25 am
Im a skin maker on mncs and I dont steal! Most of wurt u said is not true!
  • +Silver+
  • Level 7
  • Apprentice Narwhal
  • May 21, 2015, 2:45 pm
Not everyone there uses other people's skins! I make all my skins on that site 100% from scratch! Most if my friends don't even use other people's skins without crediting and they usually don't use them in the first place! Sure, mncs has its problems, but the sites getting better! My friends and I have been working trying to make it a better site, it's not a lost hope!

  • Snowfenixx
  • Level 5
  • Apprentice Narwhal
  • March 18, 2015, 7:46 pm
WHO CARES?! its not like people make a living off making skins in minecraft
is there a delete button the back button annoys me i have to go so back to delete
  • S0_Kawaii
  • Level 1
  • New Crafter
  • August 10, 2014, 5:25 am
I cant find the delete button... :P
My only problem about MNCS is the editor is not working anymore. And yes I use the old one.
  • Embertron
  • Level 9
  • Apprentice Mage
  • May 30, 2014, 3:59 pm
When II try to download skins that I make on that site anymore, for some reason my computer refuse to download the skins.
  • stevegold1
  • Level 27
  • Expert Dragon
  • May 18, 2014, 6:39 am
i dowa skin then dit it but now it wont work!
  • TygnTiger
  • Level 7
  • Apprentice Architect
  • April 20, 2014, 12:33 pm
I just make them myself...
  • Wrunod
  • Level 6
  • Apprentice Miner
  • September 21, 2013, 3:47 pm
I cannot seem to download my skin from the armory and it refuses to download I mean it goes to the new window but it wont download the skin.
  • mudawott
  • Level 10
  • Journeyman Skinner
  • April 9, 2013, 6:08 am
i see what you mean ive bee trying to get my frieds to use some skin not got from miners need cool shoes plus the owner of the parts gets no credit
well I see that spelling is your enemy and grammer too
  • Icheng0
  • Level 4
  • Apprentice Warrior
  • December 27, 2012, 9:50 pm
I only did that a couple of times to get a base on how someones hair would look like, and later changed it, but that's all, now i just make my own, though I'm a bit rusty
my problem is that I'm trying to create a skin and its not showing the color selector and my full screen button and half of the download button i don't know if anyone has that problem but if you know how to fix it please reply ASAP :)
I use MNCS but I make all my skins from scratch. I just use the skin editor on the start page.

  • +Silver+
  • Level 7
  • Apprentice Narwhal
  • May 21, 2015, 2:45 pm
  • SlashSgt
  • Level 29
  • Expert Archer
  • October 6, 2012, 7:11 am
....Yes. MinersNeedCoolShoes is a bad way to make skins from the armory. Hence why these skins aren't allowed. And after a brief look at your profile I have found that YOU make great use of the armory. I suggest you remove them yourself before Mods get involved.
  • Blizz1
  • Level 1
  • New Network
  • March 7, 2012, 8:43 pm
No. You can easily create your own shirt or armour but if you really suck at skinning then you can use the armoury the only problem I think with MNCS is not being able to make the size of your brush bigger
  • pokoman70
  • Level 24
  • Expert Ninja
  • January 15, 2012, 9:57 pm
well some people cant make armor or steve to edit so it is cool
If you can't THEN LEARN. Thats the whole point. If you can't or don't want to learn, then don't make skins
Whoa calm down. Everyone's different. God..
Captain, I fail to see how you thought I was riled up by any of this to begin with. Second, your statement makes little to no sense. I fail to understand or even care about how everyone's different. I don't understand why you appear to be so sensetive either.
  • lstgs2001
  • Level 26
  • Expert Pixel Puncher
  • November 29, 2011, 6:52 am
Guys the website is fine unless people make unoriginal skins, I use miners need cool shoes and my skins are original.
  • TeaCuppie
  • Level 25
  • Expert Princess
  • November 28, 2011, 4:05 pm
What is MNCS?
  • JohnDaMan
  • Level 40
  • Master Hunter
  • November 29, 2011, 7:59 am
It's Miners Need Cool Shoes.
  • TeaCuppie
  • Level 25
  • Expert Princess
  • November 29, 2011, 1:00 pm
Oh. Duhhh. :P
  • sKinMaKeR13
  • Level 17
  • Journeyman Toast
  • November 28, 2011, 1:16 pm
  • rosie1920
  • Level 4
  • Apprentice Artist
  • November 28, 2011, 7:48 am
Ya miners need cool shoes is really bad i hate it just use skincraft so much better i agree
  • KingIOM
  • Level 37
  • Artisan Architect
  • November 28, 2011, 6:51 am
I agree with all of this!
  • TacoDip
  • Level 57
  • Grandmaster Taco
  • November 28, 2011, 6:02 am
minecrshoes is the worst skin maker site ver.
it would be better if they could add a single erase button
lol why did it put it 2 times
  • DrThresh
  • Retired Moderator
  • Level 41
  • Master Batman
  • November 28, 2011, 3:22 am
I think once anything is on the internet, it is public domain. True, perhaps a particular artist didn't submit to that site, but once on the minecraft database, it can be hacked up to their heart's content. If they want to make a customise one, that's fine. They're not skinners or artists, they're just people who like to build a skin that looks good to them. Remember, they're builders, not creators.

Now, when it comes to the matter of ownership, that's a different story. Really, ownership would belong to the site, as it is their tools the player used to make it. Submitting on other sites and calling it their own is an unfortunate occurrence, but it would be happening anyway without sites such as those that make parts accessible. Good thing about that particular site is that you can clearly identify that these pieces came from that site. I'm erring on the side of caution and distributing my skins from here and here only. I like this community, and also if I find any of my skins on other sites, they are clearly stolen.
But I won't be too bothered with it. I understand the risk of that when distributing these skins freely, as I'm mainly using this as an outlet for keep on top of my 2D.

Doesn't hurt for artists who make skins to sign them. Lazy builders won't pick up on these when using the armory :P
  • lstgs2001
  • Level 26
  • Expert Pixel Puncher
  • November 27, 2011, 4:17 pm
Ah ah ah ah ah you can use a skin then turn it into something new, look at my skins, they were all created on minershoes and yes I made them.
I think it's OK. But only at first. A while ago, I saw a skin with a backpack obviously from SkinCraft. Did I comment angrily? No. Did I post a blog about how unfair the skin was? No. Did I even care about it? No. People have rights to "remix" skins and texture packs. I'm pretty sure it's allowed to take another person's skin, edit it around, and submit it as your own, so long as there are enough changes. I don't like it too much, but I feel it's fair to new skinners, as a crutch for them to learn the basics, and make their personal flairs to the armory images to improve them and make them their own.
SkinCraft is better. One, it gives you SIMPLE BASED SKINS, not ones that others created, such as steve, if someone posts it, Obvios its fake...
  • MrFang
  • Level 60
  • High Grandmaster Hero
  • November 27, 2011, 4:51 am
It's still great to have a little preview next to it. And a shader....

However, I do dislike the armory....
  • sKinMaKeR13
  • Level 17
  • Journeyman Toast
  • November 28, 2011, 1:21 pm
Try MCskinedit. It's what i use, and it's great! It does have an armory, which sucks, as the armory is unfair, and i don't use it, but it has different sizes of brushes, and noise, and the preveiw.
  • retardedjim
  • Level 19
  • Journeyman Spelunker
  • November 29, 2011, 3:09 am
Yep, MCSkinEdit FTW, all my skins we're made from it, I wasn't even aware it had an armory, Dodge and Burn tool for life =]
  • sKinMaKeR13
  • Level 17
  • Journeyman Toast
  • November 29, 2011, 4:55 pm
Add Noise is cool, too.
  • Poke
  • Retired Moderator
  • Level 40
  • Master Pokemon
  • November 27, 2011, 2:33 am
You say this with when to Skins of yours use parts from SkinCraft...
I used to use skincraft, and to be honest it is just as bad. I don't use skincraft anymore however.
  • Wyattkins
  • Level 1
  • New Explorer
  • November 27, 2011, 3:36 am
I use Skincraft, but I don't use any Pre-Made things. I just suck at ms paint, let alone photoshop. I draw everything, no pre-made. Do you think thats ok?
I guess if you dont use any any pre made parts. However there's also skinedit available to download for free, which is alot better than skincraft, and you cant be accussed of stealing parts.
  • sKinMaKeR13
  • Level 17
  • Journeyman Toast
  • November 28, 2011, 1:23 pm
That is an epic little tool. love it!
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • November 19, 2011, 5:47 pm
I keep telling this to allot of ppl that promote MNCS site, but most fail to understand that pre-made stuff is bad, ppl just use those default elements and dont create nothing new. All programs, sites or any other tool that haves pre-made stuff just restrains ppl creativity.

Glad you brought this subject up ;)
  • Craftin256
  • Level 17
  • Journeyman Skinner
  • November 19, 2011, 12:09 pm
OMG, not another one. I use MNCS and SkinCraft. Thing is, I use this and still manage to make my skins totally original. I start with a blank template and make a skin from there.
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • November 19, 2011, 5:49 pm
Yes, you do, me also, and maybe even the guy who created this blog, but most ppl just use the pre-made stuff and doesn't get creative anymore.
  • SilentSoul
  • Level 1
  • New Miner
  • November 19, 2011, 11:30 am
i make my own skins on that site and i agree people steal thats why i dont upload my skins lol but if you look at different parts of a skin and use them for INSPIRATION not to use then its ok but people steal from every skin site
Fair enough :P I have nothing against using the website itself, it's just when people steal the skins and re-post them as their own which i dislike. For example if you type in "cookie monster" in the search there are about 10 pages worth of variations of the same skin.
  • kynarus
  • Level 1
  • New Explorer
  • November 7, 2011, 8:28 pm
though i do see what you mean, someone did originally make all those stolen skins. i use miners need cool shoes and never steal other peoples stuff, i fact half my stuff is the first of it's kind.
Your making a valid point here, but what i'm trying to get at is the fact that people are just stealing skins, and taking the credit for it.

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