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7grims
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Minecraft is soon to be full released, and we have till November to make Notch hear us.
Having glass, with it's texture totally opaque or transparent doesn't work.
Having a translucent glass with whatever color it is, would make it so much better.
Ice, water, portal, clouds, and others, already are translucent by default. So, it should be in the basic pack of MC, we should not be OK in using mods for this issue.

The idea is simple enabling the alpha-channel of glass,
so texture artist have more potential to play with.


So lets support this idea (at Get Satisfaction), and I mean voting and give favorites on all posts of this subject, it doesn't matter if this content is duplicated, it matter that people see it, and it gets enough views to call Notch attention to it.

Support the idea!

Go to, Get Satisfaction, and vote:
http://gsfn.us/t/2eozg

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Note: Showing last 25 of 25 logs.

Update #25 : 10/10/2011 12:19:40 pm10/10/11

I have sent a tweet to Notch and Jen about all of this, but I got ignored :(

Update #24 : 09/30/2011 1:56:57 pm9/30/11

Keeping it up. sometimes...

Update #23 : 09/27/2011 6:24:04 am9/27/11

some support ppl.

Update #22 : 09/25/2011 6:17:07 pm9/25/11

one more bite of dust.

Update #21 : 09/16/2011 2:24:37 pm9/16/11

BAM!

Update #20 : 09/15/2011 12:47:20 pm9/15/11

everyday an update to keep on.

Update #19 : 09/14/2011 2:12:01 pm9/14/11

kapow, we will win this figth.

Update #18 : 09/13/2011 11:12:44 am9/13/11

You know you want it.

Update #17 : 09/12/2011 4:23:24 pm9/12/11

It's on!

Update #16 : 09/11/2011 7:15:44 pm9/11/11

keep on moving.

Update #15 : 09/10/2011 10:08:46 pm9/10/11

Fight!

Update #14 : 09/09/2011 7:49:46 pm9/09/11

yes! we can do it!

Update #13 : 09/08/2011 8:37:00 pm9/08/11

F F F Fight! For what you want :)

Update #12 : 09/07/2011 11:15:21 pm9/07/11

help here, spread the word.

Update #11 : 09/06/2011 10:29:11 pm9/06/11

same old.

Update #10 : 09/05/2011 11:54:35 pm9/05/11

get satisfaction, get voting

Update #9 : 09/04/2011 11:00:53 am9/04/11

Need more feedback too.

Update #8 : 09/03/2011 2:33:20 pm9/03/11

leto go ppl.

Update #7 : 09/02/2011 11:35:11 am9/02/11

The fight keeps on!

Update #6 : 08/30/2011 12:53:45 pm8/30/11

the noble cause ongoing.

Update #5 : 08/29/2011 7:03:37 am8/29/11

support at: get satisfaction / mojang

Update #4 : 08/28/2011 7:53:45 am8/28/11

It's a noble cause.

Update #3 : 08/27/2011 9:20:31 am8/27/11

yet again, getting some attention for this cause.

Update #2 : 08/26/2011 7:47:11 am8/26/11

I just want this topic to get noticed, it deserves.
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Update #1 : 08/26/2011 7:20:38 am8/26/11

I just want this topic to get noticed, it deserves.

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  • ABD2000MC
  • Level 32
  • Artisan Ranger
  • October 14, 2013, 10:35 am
there is a snapshot for this :P
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • October 16, 2013, 9:43 am
oh good, I only had to wait 2 years for it haha
Did u see the date of this blog? xD
  • En Dabuwya
  • Level 52
  • Grandmaster Technomancer
  • August 4, 2012, 10:18 pm
There's a mod for this
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • August 5, 2012, 9:44 am
Yes, but there inst never one with exactly how I want it.
  • En Dabuwya
  • Level 52
  • Grandmaster Technomancer
  • August 5, 2012, 12:53 pm
There's one on Planet Minecraft that just changes it so you can make your glass translucent at any level of transparency, I have combined 50% and 10% transparency for my texture pack. What more could you ask for? Granted, there is the bug that minecraft counts translucent parts of glass as opaque, so you can't see any glass on the other side of it, but the guy is working on it.
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • August 5, 2012, 2:45 pm
Found some more bugs, but that MOD is already sooo awesome :D
  • thefungi
  • Level 54
  • Grandmaster Pixel Painter
  • October 10, 2011, 8:06 am
wo thats a great idea. and the glass in minecraft is kinda bleh
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • October 10, 2011, 8:18 am
I agree, the texture is blah, unfortunately I had to change my mind, and only ask for it to be enabled as translucent, because many ppl like the default look, and I respect that, some stuff just grows on you cause there are there since the beginning of minecraft.
  • thefungi
  • Level 54
  • Grandmaster Pixel Painter
  • October 10, 2011, 8:42 am
true true. it does grow on you although in my opinion its awful . but the ones your showing us would look much much better in minecraft and i could make much better looking stuff with them. the glass just needs to be more detailed in minecraft
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • October 10, 2011, 9:14 am
xD yes very ugly and intrusive, that's why I do my texture pack.

Can't agree with detail, a simple grey or blue at 20% opacity would be great to me, but there it is, enabling the alpha channel, and it opens lots of possibilities to everyone playing with textures.
I think this is a great idea :D cmon Notch!! here our cry!
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 27, 2011, 4:36 pm
Yes, I've been crying for this a long time now.
  • marcelov1120
  • Level 28
  • Expert Pokemon
  • September 27, 2011, 3:11 am
i dont realy see the point of translucent glass. its only good for projects (spaceships) or churches.
:p
  • TheYO064
  • Level 1
  • New Explorer
  • November 26, 2011, 9:18 pm
And if you want tinted windows on your car XD
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 27, 2011, 3:19 am
It's also good for houses, or skyscrappers, or massions, or public buildings, or arenas, or anything you can possible do.

Why would only spaceships and churches be good for it? Imagine all your creations with a light grey or blue colored window, instead of having an outline true every glass block you ever put.
  • marcelov1120
  • Level 28
  • Expert Pokemon
  • September 27, 2011, 12:23 pm
i agree now, i understand, sorry i just woke up when i posted that, my head was really cloudy.

I SUPPORT THIS! WILL VOTE!
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 27, 2011, 4:36 pm
:D cool
  • rob_cuz
  • Level 30
  • Artisan Pirate
  • September 27, 2011, 2:31 am
I strongly agree with you!! Tinted glass would make things so much better!

Im duplicating this so we can get heaps of people to see it :D
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 27, 2011, 2:50 am
Yeah duplicate ;)

You understood the spirit of it.
  • Venima
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Modder
  • September 16, 2011, 2:08 pm
I don't want translucent glass to be standard. It'll contribute to lag, and won't be that brilliant. You're not gonna get light bending effects, it'll just tint whatever you're looking at. Making this a mod is no trouble. If you have a problem with mods, then it's your problem, not mojang's or mine. I'd rather it would stay that way.
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 16, 2011, 3:47 pm
No lag, allot of items already are translucent enabled, ice, water, even lava.

It doesn't need to be standard, as long as Mojang just enables this item, moders and/or texture artists may work with it.

I'll will not get light bending effects, just like ice works.

Making this mod is a trouble, many mod makers have supported that they would prefer it to be in the root of the game, rather to modding it; also similar mods are to complex and beyond the simplicity asked here.

You are not a supporter of this cause, and you are entitled to it.

Thanks for the comment.
  • Venima
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Modder
  • September 16, 2011, 10:48 pm
I would happily make a translucent glass mod. It would require 2 lines of code to write and I already know what they are. But I guess if translucency doesn't cause lag as I thought it did, then there's no reason why it shouldn't be standard.
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 17, 2011, 4:17 am
Yah, I actually was looking for some mod maker to do a simple mod that just enables translucenty to the glass item. Something so simple that it could be shared together with the textures zip file. Because I have played in single, building things with ice, and there was no lag.
  • The_Bias_P11
  • Level 1
  • New Sweetheart
  • September 18, 2011, 4:04 pm
I REALLY want it to be able to be like ice. 16x16 glass is really difficult to customize otherwise.
  • sed11
  • Retired Moderator
  • Level 63
  • High Grandmaster Hero
  • September 16, 2011, 12:23 pm
Why is this blog getting updated to page 1 alot?

I dont think Mojang/Notch gets on planetminecraft alot.....so probably post this on minecraftforums.

*If you have account on it....cuz I dont :P*
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 16, 2011, 3:40 pm
Do you read? xD hello sed11 I see you on all blogs

The main thing here is to get the people to go to GetSatisfaction.com , that site his being over-watched by a Mojang's "helper", allot of stuff have been integrated in the game because people ask it so in GetSatisfaction.

One of the most popular treads, one similar to this one is already being send to Mojang, I what to support it and others treads that share similar request.
  • sed11
  • Retired Moderator
  • Level 63
  • High Grandmaster Hero
  • September 16, 2011, 12:21 pm
Why is this blog get updated to page 1 alot?

I dont know if Mojang/Notch gets on planetminecraft alot.

I just think Notch should leave the glass the way it is now but we can make it see-through with color all over it in texturepacks :3
I am currently coding a mod that will be including tinted glass. We will have 1 color of glass per dye. So until then... :) TTYL
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 14, 2011, 2:18 pm
Also worn me when you finish your mod please.
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 14, 2011, 2:17 pm
I actually was looking for someone that could make a very simple mod for it, like a little file that could go along with texture packs, and that would only enable translucent glass, and then it would be to the texture artists to customize that item.

Is it even possible?
Yeah, but I am just including this in my mod. As well as many other things. Just subscribe to my channel or check up often. I am sure I will release on PMC when we finish it.

Probably will also post it on YouTube:

www.youtube.com/hotelmanager24
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 14, 2011, 5:59 pm
Cool thanks I will check it out ;)
  • miniboes
  • Level 12
  • Journeyman Hunter
  • September 8, 2011, 9:58 pm
I believe jeb said they problaly wont stop updating minecraft.
  • Darkaine
  • Level 39
  • Artisan Creeper Hugger
  • September 5, 2011, 9:23 pm
We also want Stained glass (make it dyed like wool)
  • webus
  • Level 1
  • New Miner
  • September 6, 2011, 6:24 am
I agree stained glass would be very cool since we could make beautiful stained glass windows and such!
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 6, 2011, 3:30 am
Yah, that is actually the more popular poll, regarding glass and all it's problems.

Here is the link to that tread LINK.
  • Gerthew
  • Level 1
  • New Network
  • September 4, 2011, 8:37 am
Just so you know, the time limit isn't limited to November. Just because that is the official release date, that doesn't mean that Notch will stop adding content to the game. It's just the inauguration.
Also, Notch has, on multiple occasions, talked about translucent glass. The problem, is that adding adding opacity to objects will affect lighting on a grand scale. He has stated that it is a feature he would like to add, but he needs to work around the lighting aspects first. It's likely that it won't be a feature added for a while.
I do support this though, it would be an amazing addition to the game!

....I do hope that the new glass block they were showing off won't totally screw over all of my projects....
Oh, and I'll be posting a link for the getsatisfaction page on my project, which is on the main page at the moment, to get it some attention.
  • sed11
  • Retired Moderator
  • Level 63
  • High Grandmaster Hero
  • September 4, 2011, 9:36 am
Glass panes will be added but glass blocks wont be removed.

dont worry.
  • Gerthew
  • Level 1
  • New Network
  • September 4, 2011, 9:43 am
Ah I see. Thank you. :)
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 4, 2011, 9:26 am
Hello, hard to understand how it affects light... cause there already other translucent blocks all over the maps we play on.

The new glass wont be a problem, as it was said that, glass plane it's a state of glass, so we will have both the pane and the block. Plus the glass pane can be removed or retrieved, if you brake it you wont loose it, guess that append because so many ppl asked to glass have that effect, still Notch only applied it to the pane.

Thanks for supporting the cause with that link ;)
  • Gerthew
  • Level 1
  • New Network
  • September 4, 2011, 9:45 am
Notch does want the glass to affect the lighting around it. Which I hardily agree with. But that's just my opinion.
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 4, 2011, 10:26 am
I just want that update already, so I can build with it xD
  • Venima
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Modder
  • September 17, 2011, 11:22 am
If glass was heavily tinted it shouldn't be able to allow full light to shine through them that they do currently. Ice, water and lava all share a very tinted colouring, and do not need to allow any light through.
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 17, 2011, 12:02 pm
So the light remains the main... whats the huge problem??? you are putting problems were there shouldn't be....
  • Venima
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Modder
  • September 18, 2011, 7:48 am
I was explaining why light is affected by it. I had thought that they contribute to lag too.
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 18, 2011, 8:41 am
Have you ever tried a mod, and as an example, try to build a house, but instead of glass windows you put ice, from there you can see the effects that it makes.

Probably because ice parameters are diferent, they wont let so much light enter the house as glass would do. But at leat you can test if you feel lag on it.
  • Venima
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Modder
  • September 18, 2011, 11:08 am
Yeah but think about it. Why wouldn't Mojang make all blocks capable of translucency? Answer me that.
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 18, 2011, 12:08 pm
I do not work there to answer that. And "all" blocks????

They just turn on those that they needed.

And if I have to guess, I would say because some items were made in different times, glass is from the first versions of minecraft 0.30 (classic), and ice was made much latter, probably over time they thought of making translucent items, but kept glass as it was for some reason.

I'm also sick of talking with you, you are against it for some stupid reason, since even if it is enabled, it wont affect you.

And if it is so simple to code this into a mod, "changing 2 lines of codes", I don't know why wouldn't you make it.
  • Venima
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Modder
  • September 18, 2011, 1:25 pm
I'm not against it as a concept, but my intentional point in my original post was that it should be optional if it causes lag (I can see how my post does not reflect this). I've also just pointed out why Notch might be postponing the conversion to translucent glass, not as a complaint to the idea.

Also, I would and will make it once ModLoader and MCP have updated to 1.8, until then there's not a lot I can do.
  • sed11
  • Retired Moderator
  • Level 63
  • High Grandmaster Hero
  • September 2, 2011, 12:45 pm
you know its weird why on minecraftwiki it says transparent-- yes under the picture while you r on the glass page.

Weird why the transparent doesnt work when your trying to change it to see-through colors instead of no colors at all.

i mean like on paint.NET u can use transparent colors and non-transparent colors.

NOTCH!! Y U NO MAKE GLASS TRANSPARENT????
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 2, 2011, 7:34 pm
It's a problem of semantics, transparent doesn't mean seen true with color.

But translucent is the best definition for the faded color, or for the opacity control.

Basically is enabling the alpha-chanel to that item... I think.
  • Venima
  • Level 33
  • Artisan Modder
  • September 17, 2011, 11:31 am
As it stands, the game would check if the alpha channel is 0 and will otherwise set it to maximum. So you need to disable this check to allow the block translucency.

I've learnt a lot about 3d rendering by looking through the minecraft source files :)
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 17, 2011, 12:04 pm
Yah I do not get nothing about those things, really out of programing and data values know how.
  • Coppeerboy
  • Level 21
  • Expert Crafter
  • September 2, 2011, 7:49 am
Notch said that when the game will be full game he will still add updates
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • September 2, 2011, 9:03 am
That's awesome.

Although it would be nice to already have some of this stuff, case he takes too long to make them.
  • Blaubaer
  • Level 28
  • Expert Architect
  • August 30, 2011, 10:28 am
Nice Idea hope they start thinking about it at least on 1.9
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • August 30, 2011, 10:41 am
Thanks :)

support and spread the message ;)
I still want generators for redstone. :/ Waterwheels or windmills instead of just needing a stick to make a torch that is MAGICALLY powered. Electricity seems so....easy.
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • August 29, 2011, 5:08 am
Hey there, if you really want or like that sort of things then yah, why not making a new submission to www.getsatisfaction.com/mojang/

If the tread have enough votes, Notch and Mojang will get notify about it, and eventually get it on the game.

Fence Gates (a new feature in 1.8) was inserted in the game by this method.
Thanks! Submitted under "Electricity is a luxury, not a survival method!"
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • August 29, 2011, 7:59 am
:) nice tittle.
  • sed11
  • Retired Moderator
  • Level 63
  • High Grandmaster Hero
  • August 25, 2011, 1:43 pm
This idea is ok....but I think the glass now looks good :/

And in 1.8 update theres going to be a new glass item Added :D called "Glass Panes"

Maybe Notch could make those transparent?

Though they'd would probably use the glass part in terrain.png so probably not O_o

And yes...they should make it to where we can make the glass see through...but with color all over it in texturepacks.BUT STILL LOOK LIKE THE SAME GLASS AS IT IS NOW IN THE DEFAULT TEXTURE!!!!
  • TQuin
  • Level 69
  • High Grandmaster Engineer
  • August 25, 2011, 2:56 pm
You're entitled to your opinion, BUT IT'S WRONG! Transparency enabled would allow for transparency, yes, but you could make the pixels not transparent if you so desired. It would open up possibilities for the texture artists that are currently not available in any form.
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • August 25, 2011, 5:11 pm
I dont get why he is wrong? And I also don't get his answer...

Are you guys disagreeing on a thing you agree??? LOL

That's what it looks... probably it's just me who is confused...
  • sed11
  • Retired Moderator
  • Level 63
  • High Grandmaster Hero
  • August 25, 2011, 3:00 pm
In my texturepack Portal2Craft.I tried to make the glass transparent once by using paint.NET

*Handles transparency* and when I make the blue pixels see-through they arnt see through on the game O_o *Like color pixels are there but they are not see through even though they should be*

*And I also made the blue pixels see through I could tell...cuz the checkered pattern was there behind the blue pixel.....which means it should be see-through transparent*

So I just made part of the glass blue so.... WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Jaden850
  • Level 47
  • Master Pixel Painter
  • August 26, 2011, 12:54 am
its called opacity minecraft just reads what color the pixels are not the details
  • sed11
  • Retired Moderator
  • Level 63
  • High Grandmaster Hero
  • August 26, 2011, 12:21 pm
well...I did the same with the slime and it was see-through color so

DOES IT REALLY JUST READ THE COLORS??????????

NO!!! ONLY ON THE BLOCKS!!!! and other mobs besides slime

*sniff*
  • Jaden850
  • Level 47
  • Master Pixel Painter
  • August 26, 2011, 3:58 pm
its hard coded on some mobs..... a lot of them but still
  • 7grims
  • Level 42
  • Master Architect
  • August 25, 2011, 2:00 pm
The glass looks good???

Most of the players who use texture packs, began using them because of things like glass (cobble too).

Yah, it looks like the glass panes uses the same texture as glass, so no luck there.. :P

And I'm also ok with that idea, as long as he enables glass translucency, the default texture can remain the same, because I know I will change it later xD

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