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avatar CrafterDragon
Level 41 : Master Dragon
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Hey guys! I'm bringing you more of a rant.

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To be honest I have no idea why this community thinks Jeb is terrible at running minecraft. For some reason almost every single blog about Jeb ruining minecraft reaches or very close to reaching pop reel! And to be honest... I'm sick of it! People need to open their eyes!

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Jeb is NOT ruining minecraft! Think about everything he has done to mojang and minecraft. Before, back when notch owned the game, minecraft was no where close next to how brilliant it is now. I mean Jeb has added invisible blocks, life like biomes, incredible blocks and amazing mobs. Why do you think he is ruining the game? Why do you think that? Are you hoping that if you argue and shout so loud that Jeb will get so much hate that he will leave? Well thats not gonna work.

Minecraft wouldn't be as famous as it is now if Jeb didn't take it over. Planet minecraft wouldn't have as many members as it does today. The Minecraft Forums wouldn't have as many members as it does today. Forge, mod loader and magic launcher wouldn't have many mods for their launcher. Texture packs wouldn't be made because not enough people would know how to. Adventure maps and mini-games wouldn't be made because not enough people would know how to code. Famous youtubers wouldn't be as famous or not as famous at all. All that just because Jeb never took control of minecraft.

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Don't blame Jeb if you think minecraft is ruined because if you think minecraft is ruined why are you on Planet minecraft, part of the minecraft community?

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Thanks for reading!
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Update #1 : 04/28/2014 12:58:20 amApr 28th, 2014

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02/01/2020 11:30 am
Level 9 : Apprentice Crafter
MewMuffins
I M A G E I S U N A V A I L A B L E
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05/21/2014 9:50 am
Level 34 : Artisan Miner
therandomdot
He's done a great job organizing the code & adding new things.  But ... it's called "mine"-craft.  Everything that's been added has to do with everything except mining. No new minerals. No new incentive to go mining. Horses, flowers, double-plants, new biomes (without new reasons to go there, ie: no new things to mine there), amplified biomes, ...  none of this gives you more incentive to go down in the depths and explore and come back to craft new riches. Not just riches (ie: most folks craft gold armor just for the status), but useful things. Heck, lapis was added as a new ore just to be useless, since it was only for dye. They forced its usefulness onto folks by shoe-horning it into the enchanting system.

This lack of direction and shoe-horning cliche ides into the game has gone on for a while now. EG: when they first started with XP in the game you only got it from monster kills. Why? It's a game about mining, but they expected you to waste your time killing mobs to get XP to enchant. That's cliche. It's a game about mining. They finally came to their senses, and rewarded XP for, you know, mining. But, why didn't they think of that in the first place?

Basically, Mojang has run out of good ideas, and they have to focus so much time on the code that ideas implemented into the game aren't given enough thought. All of the good ideas already exist.. as mods. What they need to do is either a) get their modding API going ASAP (and polish the heck out of it to make it very robust), or b) cherry-pick the best mods to incorporate into minecraft (eg: more creatures, smarter/deadlier creatures, more ores and more things to do with them, better towns, better rpg, etc).

As it is, everything Mojang adds to the game pales in comparison to what modders are adding, so Mojang needs to stop focusing on adding stuff, and just focus on code polishing, code robustness and making multiplayer networking better. eg: they should have incorporated BUKKIT in a long time ago. They should have offered the TEKKIT folks a chance to merge things. Set options in the game that let you Admin what kind of tech is allowed in that instance of game world (eg: flip a switch to go from rudimentary tools only to allowing more advanced TEKKIT stuff).

All I do in MC is mine. That was the cornerstone of the game for a long time, but it's wasted away for so long due to all the focus going on non-mining stuff.  farming, horses, really?  Let's get back to the core of the game. Create long-lost civilizations deep underground that you can find and explore while mining. Create super creatures under ground to go battle. Create useful stuff to get folks to go under ground again.
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05/21/2014 10:04 am
Level 41 : Master Dragon
CrafterDragon
I see where your coming from and I agree that minecraft needs more ores, smarter creatures, deadlier creatures and so on. However mojang are still keeping the games name true because in almost every update there is something new to mine. Mineing is not just getting a pickaxe and mineing ores and stone, well not in minecraft. In minecraft breaking any block countes as mining and because loads of blocks are rarer to find than others it's like looking for an emerald.
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05/18/2014 2:00 am
Level 7 : Apprentice Architect
ShadTheMinecrafter
Jeb does not ruining Minecraft. We all should appreciate that.

Without Jeb, there's no Minecraft.
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04/30/2014 9:12 pm
Level 5 : Apprentice Architect
byBlake
People think he is ruining minecraft because he is making a server owners life a living hell.
For example UUIDs people don't hate them just makes alot of more happen to server owners.
This is one of the things people actually take out on Jeb.. He is removing ids for items you will have to use their proper name or probably no more secret blocks for servers..
All server networks no longer get support on skins from mojang meaning it is nearly impossible to get skins on a network..
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04/30/2014 5:13 pm
Level 23 : Expert Network
SoyMonkey
i think its quite easy if you dont like it dont play it that or downgrade your version theres a reason they put it in
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04/30/2014 3:44 pm
Level 3 : Apprentice Explorer
RadioWaves
But many people don't remember how minecraft was Suppose to turn to. Survivial!   With many of these new blocks sure they look cool and stuff but have no great reason to be in. Minecraft started out as a survival game and it hasn't be going that way.   And I know Jeb isn't all that bad he has added some pretty great things but I just don't believe MC is where it should be.    * Please do not spam me with hate messages, and such for expressing my opinion :l *
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04/30/2014 3:33 pm
Level 30 : Artisan Toast
Vector10f
If people hate the new updates... Then they should downgrade their minecraft to an older version. -.- It just gets so annoying when people rant about new things...
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04/30/2014 9:59 am
Level 1 : New Dolphin
lmaoaightbruh
you are right first i thought WTF MOJANG but after a few updates im kinda happy he runs minecraft look at what he added HORSES the thing that a lot of people been waiting for in so much time THX A LOTZ JEB!!!
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04/30/2014 8:57 am
Level 58 : Grandmaster Programmer
Luigi888
Well, there were a few things Minecraft really does not need, like the brewing-items or emeralds (why not trade with gold?), but much things he implemented are god (don't forget, jeb alsi implemented the redstone-repeater and the wolfes).

But what I don't like, are the tousands of features for map makers. Does Jeb want everybody to be a mapmaker? I think the mean part of MC is the creativity of building. (I am a mapmaker, but play survival just for fun very often)

Diamond for you
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04/30/2014 1:10 pm
Level 30 : Artisan Creeper Hugger
clank100
First you need brewing, it adds deapth to the game
Second, mapmaking is creativity.
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04/30/2014 12:07 am
Level 48 : Master Demolitionist
MinecraftDonut
THE CYCLE OF MINECRAFT WHEN NEW FEATURES ARE ADDED


"Ewwww..... This shouldn't be in Minecraft!"


2 days later:


"DAAAAAAAANG I am so glad they added this!"


3 months later:


"Yup.... Classic Minecraft"
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04/29/2014 9:43 pm
Level 42 : Master Skinner
Kn1ght_0wl
People hate change, i get that, but stop living in the past, hate the enw minecraft because of hunger and new pvp systems? sounds like people b*tching about the game going to a higher difficulty level. the old minecraft ia dmit was fun but it was linear, it had one straight pathway, the updates jeb adds have created nearly countless pathways that a player can take in minecraft and the customisable capabilities of the new minecraft client are staggering.
the new world gen and the way things work in survival may be different from the times of beta but really, i find it as an improvement, i mean, new biomes, new blocks, new things to fight new places to explore new dimensions to explore it may not have been the simple sandbox related game people are comfortable, but its time to get outside of your oak wood house and explore what minecraft has to offer.
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04/29/2014 9:45 pm
Level 42 : Master Skinner
Kn1ght_0wl
for people who hate reading here's a summary:

-old minecraft is stale

-new minecraft is awesome

-stop being nostalgic

-screw people who hate change
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04/30/2014 9:02 am
Level 58 : Grandmaster Programmer
Luigi888
Well, I am very conservative and the most fun Minecraft was for me, was in Beta 1.5 and 1.6. But I also have much fun creating my maps now or playing survival. Also Minigames are a great thing to kill useless time in your life, but what I don't like, is the new map-making hype. Jeb wants us to get map makers and adds tons of features. Much people then develop cool mechanics, like cooking beef with fire or a zelda-heart system, but they should USE theitr features in maps! There are almost no adventure maps taht use new features!

(Why have i replyied to your comment, instead of postong my one one?...)
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04/30/2014 12:05 am
Level 48 : Master Demolitionist
MinecraftDonut
- Old Minecraft was really fun. It was small and was fun






-New Minecraft is just as good, with so much more, but more annoying players






- People will always be nostalgic, deal with it






- People love change, too much change is not what people want, the people who hate change would say screw you right back
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04/30/2014 9:05 am
Level 58 : Grandmaster Programmer
Luigi888
Yeah, what I don't like are the much noobs that just play Minigames and say budder all the time. Two or three years ago Minecraft was a hard game, and all of this 8 year old noobs that we have now would not play it. I, for example, knew all crafting recepies BEFORE i started playing! (It was in march 2011). I had a cool survival map, but the day they implemented cheating, I opened it to LAN and cvheated, and now... Im sad about this. I have a new survival map, and i cheated one time, when i needed a sticky piston, but had no slime. The old Minecraft was more fun I think...
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04/29/2014 9:36 pm
Level 42 : Master Skinner
Kn1ght_0wl
Lets ee, oh Jeb is ruining minecraft with enchantment systems, potions, new mobs like the wither, witches, iron golems, snow golems, a fantastic reosurce pack system with aditable sounds, near unlimited possibilities for adventure maps, an integrated Twitch system.
oh and btw people who say that deco blocks added to the game are useless?  ITS A SANDBOX GAME OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE!!!
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04/29/2014 8:21 pm
Level 4 : Apprentice Wizard
Elite_Ranger
Jeb isn't ruining.
He is adding USLESS features.

Realms. Why pay $13 monthly when you can home host a 8GB for FREE?!
Twitch. Have you not seen how laggy the intergration is?
New Flowers? Who gives a ***.

Jeb can get an update out.
But when he does, there useless.
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04/29/2014 6:55 pm
Level 5 : Apprentice Skinner
starfyrox103
What!? People say that?

Probably the dumbasses that beleive Herobrine was ever in Minecraft. Or Herobrine at all.
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04/29/2014 5:40 pm
Level 46 : Master Wolf Whisperer
TwilightWarlord
Most people who blame Jeb are mostly people who played before jeb took over, when Notch was working, which is fair enough, i share the same thoughts...
Its just kind of a Nostalgic thing
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04/29/2014 4:42 pm
Level 36 : Artisan uwu
VoidPanda
If they don't like what Jeb adds, they don't need to use the update/item. Fair and square. Not to be disrespectful or anything.
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04/29/2014 4:56 pm
Level 26 : Expert Pirate
joehot200
Yeah but then my players all update so if I stay on an old version then I lose players.....
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04/29/2014 4:59 pm
Level 36 : Artisan uwu
VoidPanda
No one said you had to update your server. Even if your players update. Do what you want not everything what your players want, you'll still have players on the server, and if that isn't enough then your obviously doing something wrong. [Again not to be rude, no other way to say it.] Your going to loose players anyways, every day someone quits a server for a reason unknown other then to them. Either it be the server got boring or their friends moved to a different server, or they found a different server.
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05/01/2014 6:32 am
Level 26 : Expert Pirate
joehot200
Yes they did. The update is there, so I must update or lose all my players.
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05/01/2014 7:38 am
Level 36 : Artisan uwu
VoidPanda
Thats where the glory of having an ip comes in. Your more likely to loose players not updating a world local to your internet host then having a live server anyone can get onto. And actually, theres a range from 1-20 players staying on a server no matter what update there is. If you want to update your server, update it. No one, I repeat, no one, is forcing you to update. If its all about the money to you, then your screwed and you should stop complaining about updates. What do you want to do? Stop complaining and update it constantly, or update it when you want to? Heck, some players may be looking for a server thats going to stay 1.5 for awhile. Maybe theres some players that want to find a server thats an older version. And no, I'm not directly aiming the complaining parts on you. By "Complaining" I mean just deal with it and just be greatful you actually have players.
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05/01/2014 2:08 pm
Level 26 : Expert Pirate
joehot200
Yeah but then I cannot use new plugins. Its sad because then people have lots of features wheras I would be unable to use them. Sure, I could code it myself, but thats too much effort.
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04/29/2014 4:38 pm
Level 26 : Expert Pirate
joehot200
JEB MAKES DUMB DECISIONS AND ADDS STUPID FEATURES TO MC!!






Is that so hard to understand?
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04/29/2014 4:43 pm
Level 65 : High Grandmaster Loremaster
Balderich
Please explain "Dumb features"
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04/29/2014 4:56 pm
Level 26 : Expert Pirate
joehot200
UUIDs, Slime Blocks, Minecraft Realms, Twitch.... Need I list more?
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04/29/2014 5:02 pm
Level 65 : High Grandmaster Loremaster
Balderich
UUIDs, so when players change their names they aren't unbanned from a server they were banned on, and UUIDs dont even change Minecraft! Slime blocks are kinda fun for servers and building not really for survival though. Minecraft Realms is made so you don't have to go through the hassle of setting up a server and putting maps on it and you don't have to trust a foreign hosting site that charges you a butt ton of money. And look at all the famous youtubers that Livestream, with Twitch Intergration they made that a whole lot easier and much much easier to edit. Mic sensitivity? Boom edit it in miencraft. Livestream frame rate? Boom edited in game. And remember Jeb isnt the only developer, others have input too.
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04/30/2014 7:04 am
Level 26 : Expert Pirate
joehot200
MINECRAFT REALMS IS A SCAM! I could get a server for 4x as many slots for half the price!






Dont you understand the impact name changing has? Almost EVERYTHING now does not work! Skins for cracked servers, and every single piece of data! Almost every server has had to reset their player data, as well as half of their files! Banned players DO BECOME UNBANNED Because Essentials has got no "To-UUID" converter. Slime Blocks are just useless. Why not do something awesome like the mod API that they have supposedly been doing, or allow support for all servers instead of forcing us all to upgrade?


Youtubers are crap, most of them just do boring things like them playing Minecraft and then get random people who actually think that is fun. That said, Some youtubers actually work hard and do well for their subs.


UUIDs have made it impossible for me to do a lot of things, including but not limited to, Spawn NPCs with skins, give players a skin, customizing the players skin with a custom name, and even WORSE it UNBANS players who were previously banned!
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04/30/2014 1:43 pm
Level 31 : Artisan Pixel Painter
I_am_Flaggschiff
why dont you stop playing minecraft then? or play an older version on your goddamn server. dont be a crybaby. i know you want to say something but i cant hear anything than:" UUUUEEEEHHHHH MOOOOOM JEB IS RUINING MAH GAME1111!!"
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04/29/2014 3:42 pm
Level 40 : Master Botanist
candle_
dis gun b long

First, I'd like to say I have nothing against jeb and feel the same would have occured if Notch was still the lead developer of the game. Since around 1.9, I feel the game steadily went downhill for myself. 1.8 had potential but overall I wasn't hugely excited, but expected the devs to take these new features and do some more with them, but not much was done. 

Lots of blogs and forum threads of this sort pop up, but I feel they focus on the very small, yet annoying group of them. There are plenty of the reverse, people who would still be on the line of worshipping jeb no matter how horrible the content he may have added was. 

Anyway, I feel like my opinion doesn't mean much in the flood of these kind of posts because so many are against disliking new content, and at first I felt as if I was just trying to appear hipster or something. But really, I don't. I couldn't care less about updates anymore, the last time I played was months ago, and I don't have anything to make me want to play.

Why? Unavoidable content you're foced into no matter how game-changing. Hunger? You must play survival with it on. No option to play without it unless going back before Beta 1.8. Enderman? Nope, no option to disable them. Jungles? Required. Option to use the old worldgen before it was completely changed? No. This, for me, is one of the worst. I loved the old worldgen, and it was so distinct to the current. There was still mystery, terrain seemed varied rather than the same thing over and over with minor differences. Whilst now it has more content and more variation, it leaves how well the old gen melded for the most part. Of course, it didn't always look super amazing, and the current gen isn't always bad, but it was such a game changing thing that they just kind of popped in there. "Well, just go play on an earlier update" is a very common argument. What if I want to use new mods? The new skin features? The "Good" new content not forced upon you, such as command blocks? Command blocks are an excellent example of well-implemented content not forced on you. You don't need to use them and while they can be completely game-changing, they're not something you HAVE to see, use, etc.

There's also things I love about recent updates. The new skinning features, command blocks. abilities to spawn mobs with weapons and armor, (Though not them spawning naturally, I admit. I think "Baby" zombies are a bit unnecesary and just feel cheesy) custom potions, etc. This content isn't forced upon you. It helps make minecraft a platform for creativity rather than trying hard to make it a standalone game you need to do specific things in. Originally I thought that is what mods were for, given the excellent modding community and near-infinite possibilites with the engine.

I think that gets my point across relatively well.

The game just hasn't gone where I hoped it would, which sucks a bit, but there's nothing I can do about it. Maybe one day they'll make that content optional rather than forcing people into it. Let people make their own story rather than adding a dragon and a wither that essentially ruin the mystery associated with the world previously. 

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04/30/2014 12:34 am
Level 41 : Master Dragon
CrafterDragon
I agree with you all the way!
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04/29/2014 3:57 pm
Level 43 : Master Enderdragon
Enraric
I agree with you 100%, dude. I hate all the new mandatory content but love most of the optional stuff. Well put.
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04/29/2014 10:30 am
Level 46 : Master Pixel Puncher
Im_feeling_UnLuCky
Minecraft is meant for the sake of creativity and survival, creativity which can let you run your imagination, but not to mention the fact that they are doing their best, if you can code and work your butt off everyday at mojang then do it, appreciate what we get or just don't play the game.. the community is outstanding personally other than the hackers... but jeb isn't to be blamed for.. Diamonds to you, i agree with this.
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04/29/2014 9:28 am
Level 41 : Master Pixel Painter
Spierzy
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04/29/2014 1:04 pm
Level 41 : Master Dragon
CrafterDragon
Which one, IIs it close to the start of the finish?
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04/29/2014 3:59 pm
Level 41 : Master Pixel Painter
Spierzy
All of them are for me :/

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04/30/2014 12:34 am
Level 41 : Master Dragon
CrafterDragon
Uh oh... Okay I''ll deal with it.
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04/29/2014 8:44 am
Level 18 : Journeyman Engineer
TRUE_collplayer
I agree alot
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04/28/2014 9:27 pm
Level 11 : Journeyman Ranger
pendragon_999999
I see your point... and its a good one ;)
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04/28/2014 4:11 pm
Level 43 : Master Enderdragon
Enraric
He keeps ading featueres that I'm never going to touch, which is fine, I'm just mildly disgruntled that, if I want to stay a relevant member of the comunity, I am kind of expected to use those features. It doesn't really affect me anymore becaue I hardly ever play now, I just skin, but personally I was happy with 1.7 beta, everything after that is just kind (for me) fluff, more content for a game that was fine the way it was. I didn't (and don't) want an adventure game from Minecraft, I want a simple, peaceful life (simulator) like the kind I could never have in the city or in this era.

It's all just a matter of opinion though, that's mine and I'm not stating as fact. Now, when you talk about All Jeb's done for Minecraft and the community... the game would have gotten just as big if Notch was still at the helm, just due to the nature of the way this game has grown and will continue to grow. That's not Jeb's doing. That's just that Minecraft is an excellent game, and that content is being released to keep it relevant. It's not Jeb. It's just how Minecraft itself is.

And this specifically bothers me: "People need to open their eyes!" -- you. With this line, you are dismissing all opinions other than your own as illegitimate. As I said, people have varying opinions, and they are all legitimate. These things reach the popular reel because people agree with them, and there's no counterforce, and there hasn't been since downvoting was removed years ago.

As for being on PMC even if you disagree with Jeb... I have a plethora of friends who mod, and Jeb's updates are makign harder and harder to mod the game without crashing it, so some modders, who continue to update their work here on PMC, may be upset not about the features but about the changes to the code that are invisible to those of us who do not read it. And, of course, there are people like me who may just skin or do texturepacks because they like to make that kind of art, not because they love the game.

I'm not dismissing your oppinion as invalid. It's fine if you love what Jeb is doing to the game, and I can respect that. But please don't write like those of us who disagree with you are fools. We're not, we just have a different opinion. I understand that this is a rant but please, don't be so agressive, it's borderline offensive.

I mean no disrespect by this huge wall of text, but just consider that next tie you write something.

Good day.

- Enraric.
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04/29/2014 1:38 am
Level 41 : Master Dragon
CrafterDragon
Gosh that was a long one! Urm the thing is Notch and Jeb are two very different people. Jeb added a theme to his updates while Notch added randomness to his updates, if thats even a word. If Jeb never took control there wouldn't be all the biomes we have and all the new blocks we have for a while. Of course Notch would add it in in time but it was Jeb who had the idea.

Minecraft isn't an adventure game I mean it doesn't have a perpose. Like for Call of duty you have to kill everyone,
for Super Mario Bros who have to rescue peach or just go across the opsticals and for Flappy bird you just need to flapp through the gaps. You can make minecraft whatever game you want. You can set up an adventure, build a city like a simulator or just survive. When I said people need to open their eyes I didn't mean it as people are stupid. I meant that people need to realise that Jebs updates are good and shouldn't be hated. Of course some people might not like some of his updates but they don't have to send him so much hate mails and messages.

I  hope you understand more what I'm saying now
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04/29/2014 7:41 am
Level 43 : Master Enderdragon
Enraric
I've never been a hater personally, Jeb just sort of lost me as a player due to a growing disintrest in the content he was adding. I don't really care about the new biomess; there's so many now the likelyhood of ending up in the one you want is really low, which bothers me. My issue is with the content that I don't want added that I'm going to have to deal with anyway if I want to play the latests version of the game.
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04/29/2014 11:08 am
Level 41 : Master Dragon
CrafterDragon
I agree with the biomes. Mostly because when I am looking for a specific biome I usually find extreme hills or forests. People love the new updates and the content of the new updates amaze people however some people like you don't like some of the content in it. Like me in 1.7.4. I wasn't a fan of that you would need OpenGL 2.1 to play.
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04/29/2014 3:59 pm
Level 43 : Master Enderdragon
Enraric
The super long comment that's above mine sumarises my feeling better than I think I could. So just so you know that's also me, basically.
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04/28/2014 7:27 pm
Level 28 : Expert Artist
joshsteele4ever
Brav-friggen-o, my friend. You're just eating porkchops and whoopin ass. I'm glad to see someone smart like you has put my reaction into such an eloquent statement. And I'm also delighted to once again find that someone thinks beta 1.7.3 was a peak of potential and fun. I truly do dislike the unessasary and odd newfagled coding myself.
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04/28/2014 9:42 pm
Level 43 : Master Enderdragon
Enraric
Now that the launcher lets you reverse update (Jeb does do somethign smart once and a while. :P ) I might start playing again at 1.7, just for the nostalgia.
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04/29/2014 6:48 pm
Level 28 : Expert Artist
joshsteele4ever
I've tried using that, but it's buggy as heck, although it may just be my computer. I just remaned the old Minecraft launcher, and have a folder full of all the Minecraft.jars, manualy changing them out. Way smoother, and the old launcher is part of the nostalgia for me.
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04/29/2014 8:11 pm
Level 43 : Master Enderdragon
Enraric
Whatever floats your boat, my friend.
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