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Which version is better?
Poll ended 12/30/2023 11:48 am.
3 votes · 9.1%Bedrock
23 votes · 69.7%Java
7 votes · 21.2%Both
33 total votes
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Bedrock Cons: In bedrock edition you have to pay for a skin, texture pack, all the things that are easy to make in Java. Not to mention, bedrock is quite buggy and if you get java you get java AND bedrock. It's a lot easier to mod, the redstone actually works, the fire doesn't cover the whole screen, The whither isn't ultra op, bedrock doesn't have F3 but Java does, and it's a lot easier to do everything on java then on bedrock, As well as java being the original Minecraft and bedrock was made when trying to make pocket editon.
Bedrock Pros: On the other hand, Bedrock has 3D Modals and is compatible with things like Xbox PS1-5 and pc. Bedrock is favored by Mojang, as it doesn't have 'Bedrock edition' underneath the Minecraft logo as Java has 'Java Edition' , Bedrock has education edition. PVP mainly depends on if you can spam or not.
So overall, I choose java, but it's all the player's choice.
Bedrock Pros: On the other hand, Bedrock has 3D Modals and is compatible with things like Xbox PS1-5 and pc. Bedrock is favored by Mojang, as it doesn't have 'Bedrock edition' underneath the Minecraft logo as Java has 'Java Edition' , Bedrock has education edition. PVP mainly depends on if you can spam or not.
So overall, I choose java, but it's all the player's choice.
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I agree, spam fun
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Hm. I've been misinformed I guess.
Java was the original Minecraft and bedrock was the pocket edition
Agreed with you, Ive played Bedrock for years and i really don't like it plus you can only get custom skins on moblie Bedrock aka pocket edition and not console :/ plus you can get mods on Java (Not a thing for Bedrock players) So yes even thou ive never played Java it has my vote for being better
It’s just a preference thing. I prefer bedrock, but I understand why people would prefer Java.
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It depends.
When push comes to shove then I want to set up my own server, my own collection of mods on my own computers. Good luck with Bedrock! Java all the way.
But then again... when I am out on the road using my trusty Surface Pro X device... yah, that Java version won't work but but does work for me is my Bedrock / Windows edition. I had tons of fun with that!
None of them is "better", it's a dumb concept: it all depends on context.
Instead of wondering what is "better" you need to focus on: "what do I want out of all this?", then make your choice accordingly.
When push comes to shove then I want to set up my own server, my own collection of mods on my own computers. Good luck with Bedrock! Java all the way.
But then again... when I am out on the road using my trusty Surface Pro X device... yah, that Java version won't work but but does work for me is my Bedrock / Windows edition. I had tons of fun with that!
None of them is "better", it's a dumb concept: it all depends on context.
Instead of wondering what is "better" you need to focus on: "what do I want out of all this?", then make your choice accordingly.
Can we talk about how this is the most based post on here? It’s just a preference thing; no need to bully people for enjoying the game in a certain way :)
Setting a server up on java is as easy as downloading essential mod. And you get a free server, that stays up as long as you are in your world.
But generally your point "neither is better" isn't quite true. Theres more flaws in bedrock over java (mostly because its younger than java but they've had 8 years so really I cant give them anything.)
Bedrock generally is fine if you wanna play the base game, but that's single player, with little to no customization on any other aspect than a build in my world, I'd just pirate java by that point.
Generally bedrock is the cash grab meant to take EVERY other possible console that isn't computer/laptop.
Also to name bugs in bedrock:
Wither is extremely strong, and is generally harder to beat than the dragon.
Fire covers most of your screen when you're set ablaze, which makes it 100× harder to get out of a sticky situation.
1.8 combat
The entire game.
The flaws of bedrock that arent bugs:
Minecoins
The entire store, making you pay for texture packs
Mods
Maps
Skins
The new server creation system, being completely uncustomizable, not even letting you add DATAPACKS. (With the max player count being very small, and being a subscription service)
The cross compatability of java and bedrock took years and was only made possible because of the community and not mojang.
But generally your point "neither is better" isn't quite true. Theres more flaws in bedrock over java (mostly because its younger than java but they've had 8 years so really I cant give them anything.)
Bedrock generally is fine if you wanna play the base game, but that's single player, with little to no customization on any other aspect than a build in my world, I'd just pirate java by that point.
Generally bedrock is the cash grab meant to take EVERY other possible console that isn't computer/laptop.
Also to name bugs in bedrock:
Wither is extremely strong, and is generally harder to beat than the dragon.
Fire covers most of your screen when you're set ablaze, which makes it 100× harder to get out of a sticky situation.
1.8 combat
The entire game.
The flaws of bedrock that arent bugs:
Minecoins
The entire store, making you pay for texture packs
Mods
Maps
Skins
The new server creation system, being completely uncustomizable, not even letting you add DATAPACKS. (With the max player count being very small, and being a subscription service)
The cross compatability of java and bedrock took years and was only made possible because of the community and not mojang.
Multiplayer can be fun on bedrock. I admit that most of the featured servers are just cash grabs that throw ads in your face, but some servers like The Hive tone it down and focus on providing a genuinely fun experience.
The wither is a bit of a problem, but for the fire you can just download a low fire pack. I personally prefer 1.8 combat over the updated system, and calling the entire game a problem suggests a clear bias that makes your claims moving forward carry less weight.
Minecoins as a concept aren’t a problem, but targeting kids with them is. The marketplace doesn’t force people to pay for texture packs and mods. There are free texture packs online for bedrock just like on Java. I am fairly certain there are even ways to get custom packs and skins on consoles. The marketplace does, however, provide a way for creators to monetize their content and sustainably keep making it.
The server system on bedrock isn’t great, but you can boot up a multiplayer world with some behavior packs and have a similar experience, even if it isn’t as good.
Java and bedrock were never supposed to have crossplay. Why would they make two different pc versions of Minecraft in two different coding languages have crossplay? It just doesn’t make sense when you get a free copy of bedrock with Java anyway. If you wanna play with bedrock players, you can just play bedrock.
I do want to clarify that I’m not saying bedrock is better. I have played and enjoyed both versions and Java is a bit more polished, albeit a bit less optimized, but bedrock isn’t as bad as you make it out to be. Especially if you compare the unmodded versions of both games, since your solution for most of Java’s flaws is to use a mod and look past them.
The wither is a bit of a problem, but for the fire you can just download a low fire pack. I personally prefer 1.8 combat over the updated system, and calling the entire game a problem suggests a clear bias that makes your claims moving forward carry less weight.
Minecoins as a concept aren’t a problem, but targeting kids with them is. The marketplace doesn’t force people to pay for texture packs and mods. There are free texture packs online for bedrock just like on Java. I am fairly certain there are even ways to get custom packs and skins on consoles. The marketplace does, however, provide a way for creators to monetize their content and sustainably keep making it.
The server system on bedrock isn’t great, but you can boot up a multiplayer world with some behavior packs and have a similar experience, even if it isn’t as good.
Java and bedrock were never supposed to have crossplay. Why would they make two different pc versions of Minecraft in two different coding languages have crossplay? It just doesn’t make sense when you get a free copy of bedrock with Java anyway. If you wanna play with bedrock players, you can just play bedrock.
I do want to clarify that I’m not saying bedrock is better. I have played and enjoyed both versions and Java is a bit more polished, albeit a bit less optimized, but bedrock isn’t as bad as you make it out to be. Especially if you compare the unmodded versions of both games, since your solution for most of Java’s flaws is to use a mod and look past them.
Multiplayer can also be fun on Java though...
Yes, but this guy is hammering on bedrock so I’m standing up for it. I didn’t directly compare both versions’ multiplayer outside of the built-in bedrock world joining system
I enjoyed Hypixel back when I tried to push through the PowerPoint frame rate, but Java isn’t the only version that you can have fun with. Discrediting other people’s experiences because you prefer one version (like this guy is doing, this isn’t targeted at you) isn’t acceptable
I enjoyed Hypixel back when I tried to push through the PowerPoint frame rate, but Java isn’t the only version that you can have fun with. Discrediting other people’s experiences because you prefer one version (like this guy is doing, this isn’t targeted at you) isn’t acceptable
you are completely wonrg with every thing you said, I'm too tires to make a 1000 word text, just look at the other on I made. as for market place, I said it and I'll say it again, you can still install mods and textures pack online with no cost like on java. the market place is only there for console players, and even at that, there is plenty of free stuff on there. the resource packs have so much more customization than java, and data packs in this version are called behavior packs.
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You do realize you can install resource and behavior packs with the built in add on features, right?
no anyone can download mods, texture pack. go search up a bedrock texture pack on this platform, install it, and open the file. if you have minecraft bedrock installed, it should open it and have the texture pack in your game.
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Played both for many years, Bedrock is only better for easier pvp. Java is more fun for survival and pvp and is extremely customizable compared to bedrock.
bedrock players suck a pvp I swear. winning in the hive is a piece of cake
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I’ve used pocket edition to work on redstone circuits when I’m away from home.
It’s not just the cringe version; it has its uses.
It’s not just the cringe version; it has its uses.
Quick question to the bedrock voters, what would you say is bad about java?
:( i don't know but hard core needs to put on bedrock editition
I believe the reason it hasn't been put onto bedrock is because there are bedrock bugs that cause players to die in the middle of falling, elytra-ing, etc.
idk for sure though
idk for sure though
here's a tiny list
Java Cons:
Java Pros:
Java Cons:
- You need a launcher just to open the game.
- Entities can push you instead of the opposite.
- Shields don't do knockback and can't be used while holding a bow and similar items.
- Minimum requirement to play multiplayer with someone outside your lan is to have 195 IQ.
- Vanilla is nothing more than a suggestion.
- It's wrongly named as "Minecraft: Java Edition" instead of "Minecraft: Secondary Edition" now that Bedrock is favored by Mojang/Microsoft.
- It is always run inside a Java Virtual Machine and you need the correct Java Runtime installed to play it.
- It's written in Java which is slower than C++.
- Menu UI is from 13 years ago.
- It's only available for Desktop.
- Render distance is way more limited due to how bad performance is.
- Crash Reports may as well be written in enchantment table language due to how bad they are to read.
- It's being sold together with Bedrock, that should be illegal, no one should be forced to have Java just to play Bedrock.
- It's missing a lot of features from Bedrock, like, coloring leather armor with cauldron, moving containers with pistons, skins with transparent pixels in the bottom layer and more.
- It has microtransactions while most people say it doesn't (Realms).
- Creating a world has a chance of overheating your CPU.
- Minecraft Java is single-threaded, making it even slower.
- Chat Reporting System is way, way worse than Bedrock's.
- You can't make a funny name with it like Bugrock.
- Does not have support for RTX nor Deferred Lighting.
- and for last, it smells bad.
Java Pros:
- Snapshots always come first and now it began to use a Bedrock-like version naming.
- Combat is not mindless clicking causing your weapons to survive longer.
- Java walked so Bedrock could run.
1. Who really cares about needing a launcher, it doesn't really affect anything.
2. Honestly, I don't think that matters. They should be able to bustle you around. You do not have infinite strength,.
3. Why would a shield do knockback?
4. Nah, the iq requirement for that is more like above 40.
5. I'm not quite sure what you mean by that, but I believe having extensive mods boosts freedom and user creativity.
6. no comment
7. I've never had to install java to use minecraft, only for using certain mods.
8. Fair, but optimization mods exist and with them it can run even on my crummy laptop.
9. I think it looks better than Bedrocks (an opinion thing, but whatever) and it pops up right away, as opposed to bedrock's stupid animated menus that slow everything down and can be detrimental in pvp.
10. Yeah, but bedrock doesn't have full compatibility either. Mac and Linux can't play Bedrock.
11. Who needs a render distance of more than 32 chunks?
12. Do you have a sample of Bedrock crash reports to show contrast?
13. Ok, brilliant argument there! We'll just ignore all the logical fallacies.
14. Yeah, fair, just like Bedrock lacks a lot of java features, like a proper offhand and being good!
15. Still has a lot less microtransactions.
16. Really? In my years of being in the mc community, I have not once heard of that...
17. no comment
18. Kind of a plus, as chat reporting just sucks and should have never been added to the game.
19. Because it's too serious. Java doesn't mess around.
19. The thing about rtx is that when it was added to bedrock, it removed support for shaders. Now, you need a fancy $1000+ graphics card to have it realistic.
20. You got me there.
2. Honestly, I don't think that matters. They should be able to bustle you around. You do not have infinite strength,.
3. Why would a shield do knockback?
4. Nah, the iq requirement for that is more like above 40.
5. I'm not quite sure what you mean by that, but I believe having extensive mods boosts freedom and user creativity.
6. no comment
7. I've never had to install java to use minecraft, only for using certain mods.
8. Fair, but optimization mods exist and with them it can run even on my crummy laptop.
9. I think it looks better than Bedrocks (an opinion thing, but whatever) and it pops up right away, as opposed to bedrock's stupid animated menus that slow everything down and can be detrimental in pvp.
10. Yeah, but bedrock doesn't have full compatibility either. Mac and Linux can't play Bedrock.
11. Who needs a render distance of more than 32 chunks?
12. Do you have a sample of Bedrock crash reports to show contrast?
13. Ok, brilliant argument there! We'll just ignore all the logical fallacies.
14. Yeah, fair, just like Bedrock lacks a lot of java features, like a proper offhand and being good!
15. Still has a lot less microtransactions.
16. Really? In my years of being in the mc community, I have not once heard of that...
17. no comment
18. Kind of a plus, as chat reporting just sucks and should have never been added to the game.
19. Because it's too serious. Java doesn't mess around.
19. The thing about rtx is that when it was added to bedrock, it removed support for shaders. Now, you need a fancy $1000+ graphics card to have it realistic.
20. You got me there.
1. Extra button is too much :(
9. You can turn off the animated menus.
10. Why are you trying to run Minecraft on a Mac? 😭
11. Content creation probably, although the render distance is limited on most servers and realms.
14. Bedrock isn't inherently bad, and compared to a lot of other games that are considered "buggy" (fnaf), bedrock is actually pretty good. I think it just gets a bad rap because it is always compared to Java.
19. Bedrock players actually like having fun.
19. I hate rtx because of that, and you also said 19 twice lol
9. You can turn off the animated menus.
10. Why are you trying to run Minecraft on a Mac? 😭
11. Content creation probably, although the render distance is limited on most servers and realms.
14. Bedrock isn't inherently bad, and compared to a lot of other games that are considered "buggy" (fnaf), bedrock is actually pretty good. I think it just gets a bad rap because it is always compared to Java.
19. Bedrock players actually like having fun.
19. I hate rtx because of that, and you also said 19 twice lol
1. yeah...
9. didn't know... does that also apply to crafting tables, etc?
10. linux (and it's some friends, not me)
11. yeah lol
14. ig
19. and java players make giant redstone calculators
19 x2. yup
9. didn't know... does that also apply to crafting tables, etc?
10. linux (and it's some friends, not me)
11. yeah lol
14. ig
19. and java players make giant redstone calculators
19 x2. yup
9. I think so. It works for shops on Hive and that's all I ever needed to know
10. fair, but compared to xbox and nintendo that's a rather niche problem.
19. that really is impressive though. If there's one part of Java that's definitively better, it's redstone.
10. fair, but compared to xbox and nintendo that's a rather niche problem.
19. that really is impressive though. If there's one part of Java that's definitively better, it's redstone.
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- It affects the amount of clicks you need to open the game.
- It's a problem, also Steve can carry so much blocks and take down a tree bare-handed it might as well be considered infinite strength.
- Why have a shield to defend yourself but be unable to get yourself away from enemies?
- There shouldn't be a requirement at all.
- OptiFine, Sodium, etc. If you have Java, you most likely have an optimization mod due to performance issues.
- You know it's true.
- You don't need to install it because it's automatically installed or bundled with the launcher.
- An optimization mod isn't going to make Java faster than C++, and now you're talking about modded Minecraft Java.
- Bedrock menu animations can be disabled through the options menu. (also I think you might have noticed they changed the world creation screen to feel more like Bedrock)
- It has more compatibility than Java will ever have.
- It's not about who needs it, it's about you can't have it.
- Bedrock doesn't need crash reports, if it crashes, most of the time it's a bug and needs to be reported to Mojang. The user shouldn't be the one having to read crash reports anyway.
- Yes!
- Bedrock is missing offhand from Java because it would not work with the classic Touch Control scheme for mobile. Java is missing Bedrock features for no reason, come on they can't even give the fishing rod a 3D bobber?
- Yes but people shouldn't be saying Java doesn't have microtransactions.
- You now have, no need to thank me.
- And to make it multi-threaded would require rewriting all the code, something they'll never do.
- It's a plus Java has the worse chat reporting system? I'm officially confused
- I agree, it's serious, seriously boring. But on the bright side I think mods can fix that.
- That's what Deferred Lighting is for, it's supposed to work on everything even on mobile.
- gotcha! and you can't prove it smells good!
Mojang prefers Java.
Microsoft favors Bedrock.
That's the only reason Bedrock still exists.
Microsoft favors Bedrock.
That's the only reason Bedrock still exists.
so what Panda_Tyger said "Bedrock is favored by Mojang" isn't very trustworthy...?
anyway I think it makes sense since the Creator Docs are on a Microsoft site after all. I feel like "Mojang/Microsoft" still makes sense but thanks for clarifying.
I know there's something missing about "That's the only reason Bedrock still exists.", but I can't put my finger on it right now.
anyway I think it makes sense since the Creator Docs are on a Microsoft site after all. I feel like "Mojang/Microsoft" still makes sense but thanks for clarifying.
I know there's something missing about "That's the only reason Bedrock still exists.", but I can't put my finger on it right now.
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Also wait bedrock doesn't have any transparency in skins
Bedrock lets you use transparency in the bottom layer, you can make a skin without head and stuff (my skin has no legs), short among us skins are a good example of that;
Java turns transparency in the bottom layer into opaque but it lets you use translucency in the top layer.
Java turns transparency in the bottom layer into opaque but it lets you use translucency in the top layer.
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I confused transparency and translucency lol
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I confused transparency and translucency lol
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"no one should be forced to have java"?
It's free lol
You don't have to play it if you don't want to
It's free lol
You don't have to play it if you don't want to
If the price of both haven't been merged then yea, I guess it's free
What do you mean "You need a launcher for Java" that implies there's no launcher for Bedrock, which is a lie.
It implies that because it really doesn't have one, do you think a launcher would work on mobile and consoles or even be necessary? On windows 10 you just click on the game and it opens, not a launcher, it opens the game.
for Java you're required to use a launcher unless you like playing with system commands
for Java you're required to use a launcher unless you like playing with system commands
sounds like someone cant afford java lmao
looks like you can't afford an username, and it's free.
Java comes free with bedrock lmao
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Is the main excuse.
Is the main excuse.
I mean, half of Java’s player base also has that same issue with the game, so it’s not a uniquely bedrock thing to complain about.
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