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Tonight, I began my escapade, to wreak havoc on a server who's Owner, and his little pets, decided to start rumors about me.
Some were simple (and somewhat true) such as; me being crazy, evil, and not caring about the people of that server. I am a bit crazy - And it's not just normal crazy, I mean a little mentally off. A bit of a schizophrenic. I'm not normally evil, unless of course, I really do not like you.. And I did stop caring about the people of that server - Though, the way they say it makes it sound like I never cared.
Anyways, those I don't care much about. The few things that really set me off, were things like; "Oh, she showed her breasts to the Owner [who is only fifteen, by the way], to get UberAdmin rank" or "She's dating the other Owner, and that's why she's ranked so high."
Now, I know it might seem a little funny, to get pissed about those things, if you're a guy reading this.. But, as a (in my opinion) respectable, nineteen year old female, those things are very irritating, and the one is especially dangerous, as any sexual conduct with any person under the age of sixteen (In Indiana, US) is against the law.
So, let's get to the important part of this blog. Griefers. They're annoying, and bad, and we all know that. But, is there ever a time where you'd think griefing is a just punishment? I normally wouldn't. It destroys people's hard work, and the time they spent in building those things is lost. But, you know.. It's just a game, after all.. I'm not saying that griefing is an ok thing to do, but after tonight, my opinion of griefers has changed.
Not only does griefing let you take your frustrations out on something, it allows you to cause a bit of mental pain to the one's that you're griefing. Yeah, I know, that's wrong, right? I agree. And those who grief, should be punished (Banned). That's all obvious, I mean.. Who wants to let someone roam free, if they've griefed the place? But, if it's worth it, in your eyes, to grief someone... Then it's worth it. It's impossible to stop all grief, and it's impossible to stop all hacks.. There will always be some way for you to do it. There will also be a way for server owners to rollback what you've done..
I guess what I'm trying to say is.. Sometimes, griefing can be justified. I feel what I did, tonight, was justifiable enough that I wont ever regret it. This is the first grief run I've ever been on and, most likely, my last. (Though I can't make any promises.) I know most server owners out there are going to say "Oh, you're a horrible person. Go die" Well, ya know what? I'll do that, in about 40 years, or so. You'll get that satisfaction, sometime. But, until then... This is just a game... And, while rebuilding things is annoying.. It's the server Owner's responsibility to protect the server from grief - If people get by that, it's the Owner's fault. You can't really get too pissed off, at someone, for being smarter than your protections. And that's what block logging plugins are for. It can also be a welcomed challenge. Can we make it better? Can we make it bigger? Can we even remake it?
Anywho.. Just my changed opinion, of griefing.. Feel free to share your opinions, as well!
- Kytten
Some were simple (and somewhat true) such as; me being crazy, evil, and not caring about the people of that server. I am a bit crazy - And it's not just normal crazy, I mean a little mentally off. A bit of a schizophrenic. I'm not normally evil, unless of course, I really do not like you.. And I did stop caring about the people of that server - Though, the way they say it makes it sound like I never cared.
Anyways, those I don't care much about. The few things that really set me off, were things like; "Oh, she showed her breasts to the Owner [who is only fifteen, by the way], to get UberAdmin rank" or "She's dating the other Owner, and that's why she's ranked so high."
Now, I know it might seem a little funny, to get pissed about those things, if you're a guy reading this.. But, as a (in my opinion) respectable, nineteen year old female, those things are very irritating, and the one is especially dangerous, as any sexual conduct with any person under the age of sixteen (In Indiana, US) is against the law.
So, let's get to the important part of this blog. Griefers. They're annoying, and bad, and we all know that. But, is there ever a time where you'd think griefing is a just punishment? I normally wouldn't. It destroys people's hard work, and the time they spent in building those things is lost. But, you know.. It's just a game, after all.. I'm not saying that griefing is an ok thing to do, but after tonight, my opinion of griefers has changed.
Not only does griefing let you take your frustrations out on something, it allows you to cause a bit of mental pain to the one's that you're griefing. Yeah, I know, that's wrong, right? I agree. And those who grief, should be punished (Banned). That's all obvious, I mean.. Who wants to let someone roam free, if they've griefed the place? But, if it's worth it, in your eyes, to grief someone... Then it's worth it. It's impossible to stop all grief, and it's impossible to stop all hacks.. There will always be some way for you to do it. There will also be a way for server owners to rollback what you've done..
I guess what I'm trying to say is.. Sometimes, griefing can be justified. I feel what I did, tonight, was justifiable enough that I wont ever regret it. This is the first grief run I've ever been on and, most likely, my last. (Though I can't make any promises.) I know most server owners out there are going to say "Oh, you're a horrible person. Go die" Well, ya know what? I'll do that, in about 40 years, or so. You'll get that satisfaction, sometime. But, until then... This is just a game... And, while rebuilding things is annoying.. It's the server Owner's responsibility to protect the server from grief - If people get by that, it's the Owner's fault. You can't really get too pissed off, at someone, for being smarter than your protections. And that's what block logging plugins are for. It can also be a welcomed challenge. Can we make it better? Can we make it bigger? Can we even remake it?
Anywho.. Just my changed opinion, of griefing.. Feel free to share your opinions, as well!
- Kytten
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How is it justified to act like a bitch to everyone just because you don't like them? If for some reason you don't like a person most people would ignore that person instead of acting childish.
Also griefing on a server where you were highest rank is kinda stupid, now you might think you destroyed the server. Think again we are better off without you.
It's the server Owner's responsibility to protect the server from grief - If people get by that, it's the Owner's fault.
So noone should trust you? He trusted you enough for you to become admin and then you do such a thing? Then saying it's the owners fault is just plain old ridiculous.
"Oh, she showed her breasts to the Owner [who is only fifteen, by the way], to get UberAdmin rank" or "She's dating the other Owner, and that's why she's ranked so high."
I would like to see who said that to you as I don't recall seeing that anywhere
In other things around this matter you have also said something about imaturity. You can't expect children that are 7 years old to be mature in talking as you would expect from a 20 year old.
Exactly, it can't be done. That's the reason we used it. Something I advised Immortal not to give to everyone (Because of the ugliness and destruction it can cause, and has caused), used against him. And no, you don't have a backup. After Dunk was unbanned (Thanks to Immortal's so called "smarts"), he got on and griefed again - And guess what was still there? You got that right, the grief we had done with W/E.
How is it justified to act like a bitch to everyone just because you don't like them? If for some reason you don't like a person most people would ignore that person instead of acting childish.
"Just because you don't like them" How was this, even remotely, implied? I didn't do this simply because I don't like a few people - I loved the server. Hell - I did nearly 90% of the work, trying to keep the server free from griefers, spammers, and all-around unpleasant people. I did this because not only did all of that work go unnoticed - It was completely disregarded as legitimate, just because a few people whined about getting banned. Immortal gave me a job to do - And then got pissed off and undid that job, before telling everyone that "those people were banned without a reason."However, unlike that hypocrite - Who bans people for saying they *don't* want to hack the server, or demotes people for saying that they don't agree with the plugins that were added - I've never once done anything without reason.
So noone should trust you? He trusted you enough for you to become admin and then you do such a thing? Then saying it's the owners fault is just plain old ridiculous.
Again - How is that implied, at all? It's the Owner's responsibility, if the server is hacked/griefed/whatever. They're in charge of the anti-grief methods, and honestly, Immortal's suck. The server has been coated in grief, since before I joined. There was never a day, when there wasn't a report of grief. Saying it's the Owner's fault isn't ridiculous - It's a completely true, and honest, statement, and it applies to all servers, not just his.
Again - How is that implied, at all? It's the Owner's responsibility, if the server is hacked/griefed/whatever. They're in charge of the anti-grief methods, and honestly, Immortal's suck. The server has been coated in grief, since before I joined. There was never a day, when there wasn't a report of grief. Saying it's the Owner's fault isn't ridiculous - It's a completely true, and honest, statement, and it applies to all servers, not just his.
If people get griefed thay ask admins to come and roll the stuff back that's the normal thing to do. You can't protect every single thing against grief. But still it is not Immortals fault that you griefed, he trusted YOU and you betrayed him.
Exactly, it can't be done. That's the reason we used it. Something I advised Immortal not to give to everyone (Because of the ugliness and destruction it can cause, and has caused), used against him. And no, you don't have a backup. After Dunk was unbanned (Thanks to Immortal's so called "smarts"), he got on and griefed again - And guess what was still there? You got that right, the grief we had done with W/E.
WE isn't for everyone Except for Ubers, If you are not uber you can't WE over plots. So again Immortal trusted you and you betrayed him.
Doubloon - Who griefed/killed/raided people on Mars, with creative and god, and then lied about it. TWICE (If it wasn't for me, he wouldn't have been dealt with, and would still be doing it)
Dimby - Who, while we were waiting for the update, was told to stop killing someone, and stealing his stuff, lied about doing so, and then did it again, three times, after Bullet turned his back. And also tried to ban a few people who were "running" another of Immortal's servers, because they had banned him for being an ass, there.
And many others, who's names I can't place, who have since been unbanned (and some rebanned), simply because they whined on the forums, or because they had donated a few dollars.
If he really trusted me - Wouldn't you think he'd be a little more... I dunno.. Trusting, of my judgments?
And, for that matter, the other Uber's?
Also griefing on a server where you were highest rank is kinda stupid, now you might think you destroyed the server. Think again we are better off without you.
Ha! Better without me? That's why:
Grief is rarely fixed
No one knows how to use hawk correctly
People are getting banned, left and right, for absolutely no reason
Mods and Admins are abusing their powers/completely rude
If it wasn't FOR me, the server would have been ten times as bad as it is now.
I would like to see who said that to you as I don't recall seeing that anywhere
Abhai started them - and they spread for quite a while, especially after I left.
In other things around this matter you have also said something about imaturity. You can't expect children that are 7 years old to be mature in talking as you would expect from a 20 year old.
Children who are 7 years old shouldn't even be online, let alone on a public server. But they're not who I'm talking about. 80% of the server is 12+ - And they act like 5 year olds.
I'm not saying what I did wasn't bad - It was bad. And it wasn't aimed at the users - It was aimed at Immortal. I, with no tech background, managed to bring the server to it's knees, in a matter of a few hours. If Immortal hadn't woken, half-way through, there would be no server, anymore.
And don't think I don't know what I'm talking about. I've read the forums, and talk to people who play on the server. It's going to shit - Just as I said it would. And it's Immortal's bad decisions that are leading the server straight to its grave.
Grief is rarely fixed
No one knows how to use hawk correctly
People are getting banned, left and right, for absolutely no reason
Mods and Admins are abusing their powers/completely rude
If it wasn't FOR me, the server would have been ten times as bad as it is now.
I fix every grief I see or people tell me. If people don't even say they are griefed and its on the outskirts of the map then I won't be passsing through there.I know how to use hawk and all admins/ubers know it for sure, veterans are mostly new and don't really need to use it that much.
If I ban someone I always set a fair reason so they know what got them banned. and EVERYONE getting banned for no reason by an admin gets unbanned by me and I warn the admin not to do it again as it is abusing powers.
How are the admins rude? The only people that are cursing in the chat are new players. Which I kick when they do it even after a warning and if they come back and keep doing it they get a tempban. The time was just a guest on the server it was you being rude to me, kicking/banning me for no reason and raging at everyone
I'm not saying what I did wasn't bad - It was bad. And it wasn't aimed at the users - It was aimed at Immortal. I, with no tech background, managed to bring the server to it's knees, in a matter of a few hours. If Immortal hadn't woken, half-way through, there would be no server, anymore.
And don't think I don't know what I'm talking about. I've read the forums, and talk to people who play on the server. It's going to shit - Just as I said it would. And it's Immortal's bad decisions that are leading the server straight to its grave.
How could Immortal be online 24/7? thats why we have Ubers to control the server and step in when needed. Then again of course if an Uber starts destroying stuff there is nothing we could do but shut down the server.
Well, of course you know how to use it - You're one of the most educated people on that server, anymore. But that still doesn't change the fact that every world is riddled in constant grief, that is rarely fixed. It was like that before I joined the server, and it's like that again, now.
The admins don't know how to use it - I've read the forums. They don't understand it the plugin, at all.
The point is - People are being banned for absolutely no reason. Something that Immortal claimed was only caused by me - Yet, he could never name one time that I had banned someone unfairly - What does that tell you?
I've gotten complaints from multiple people who played on the server for a while, after I left, or still play now, about the new staff being dicks - And half of the staff when I left were mean to everyone.
I never once kicked or banned you for no reason - Nor did I rage at people. Yes, I had to use capitals frequently, for people to listen - But that's not raging.
How could Immortal be online 24/7? thats why we have Ubers to control the server and step in when needed. Then again of course if an Uber starts destroying stuff there is nothing we could do but shut down the server.
He's not expected to be on 24/7 - But being that he runs the server, and never updates people on plugins or changes to anything, he should at least be on a few times a week. he was never on more than once a month, and even then, he was barely on for a few minutes, before going AFK for countless hours. Not to mention, if someone said his name, to see if he was still there, he would throw a temper tantrum. He relies on the staff 100%, to do all of the moderating, and then goes behind their backs, and unbans people that whine about being banned, on the forums - Including people who have severely grieffed in Earth - or worse, Mercury.
True Immortal should have demoted Dunklegend that was his own fault but still we had a backup. Mercury was rolled back completely.
Mercury wasn't rolled back - Everything we had done was still there. I think he even took a few screenshots.
If people get griefed thay ask admins to come and roll the stuff back that's the normal thing to do. You can't protect every single thing against grief. But still it is not Immortals fault that you griefed, he trusted YOU and you betrayed him.
Over half the time, the admins don't respond - They're lazy, and think of the rank as a trohpy, not a job.
And this isn't about me. Though, it is his fault that I did it. He is the one who keeps saying "The server is ungriefable, and unhackable, so go ahead and try, cause you wont succeed," to everyone who threatens to take the server down. And that, on top of his actions, and stupidity, is the reason behind this.
Just so you know, I wasn't an Uber Admin, anymore - He had demoted me, because my opinion differed from his, on the three strikes plugin. Of course, he's probably lying about that.
WE isn't for everyone Except for Ubers, If you are not uber you can't WE over plots. So again Immortal trusted you and you betrayed him.
I didn't betray him - He betrayed me, and I retaliated.
But this type of griefing is Okay. If they were saying all that sh!t about you then they deserved it.. And honestly they had it coming.
This should be like the bible of minecraft.. lol
If you have a good enough reason.. Do it.