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My honest opinion: Asking for diamonds and subscribers

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avatar Pillowman25
Level 27 : Expert Dragonborn
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The Problem:
I've seen all too many times while reading descriptions of projects, blogs, etc on PMC, people asking for diamonds and subscribers. I do understand people acquire their inspiration for posting through subscribers and people liking their work, but is it acceptable for people to ask for these types of things? Over time, I've come to see some of these comments as threats, especially when it is noted that more work will be produced only under the guidelines that more people have to subscribe or diamond. Think of a situation like this. You subscribe to someone because you enjoy what they make, and expect to be notified as they continue to produce the material you enjoy. Suddenly, the only way this is going to happen is only if they achieve more subscribers, or obtain diamonds.
But...what's so wrong with this??:
You as the person who subscribed for the content, are unable to receive any sort of work from the person. It's not like you can subscribe as many times as you want just so these people have the 'inspiration' to create more work. In my opinion most people do no require "inspiration" from people on a website like PMC so they will play a game more. People are playing Minecraft because it is fun and not because people are giving them diamonds or subscribing.
What I think!:
If someone enjoys your work, they will either subscribe or give you a diamond, if they haven't already. You shouldn't be asking for these things, because there are people out there that do anything someone popular asks them to do.
I don't think this should be allowed in the community; it just doesn't shine an honest opinion about work.
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07/10/2012 4:11 am
Level 8 : Apprentice Miner
Aleck25
I have to say though, I'm getting kind of tired of articles like this blog because if you think about it... these are often the only blogs on the reel. If you think about it, other blogs don't show up on the reel because of these kinds about diamonds/subscribers/etc. Can't everyone just agree with one of these kinds of articles, and not make so many? Not to be mean, it's just somewhat irritating. Thus, I shall look at your other blog, about unoriginal projects, because I agree. There's too many of the same stuff on PMC.
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07/10/2012 4:27 am
Level 27 : Expert Dragonborn
Pillowman25
I guess blogs can't get too unoriginal, considering everyone writing each have a different opinion about the topic.
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07/10/2012 3:42 am
Level 8 : Apprentice Narwhal
Equi_noxx
I like to remind people that if they like it, diamond it.because these things people do take lots of work. look at the top texture pack(LB photo realism). Only 3k diamonds with 2.1 million views and almost 1 million downloads..there's no way 973k people didn't like that texture pack also it being the top texture. And level does kind of matter. Popularity could be keeping disco alive. Someone could make a temple notch thing but not get recognized because he's only level 1 and only gets like 10 diamonds and that user just kind of fades away thinking people didn't like his work when in reality it was amazing. I think people take work for granted a little to much.
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07/09/2012 9:14 pm
Level 27 : Expert Explorer
WaffledudeMC1000
Great work my friend,a Diamond and Favorite for you!all what you said above i agree with.
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07/09/2012 7:25 pm
Level 50 : Grandmaster Baconator
Syndi
i agree but, please don't argue with me im on your side but i think that its ok to leave like a reminder because when something happens like you get lots of views but no diamonds you might want to leave a reminder thingy or something so they do diamond it if it is worth the diamond and not i piece of crap.
i hope you understand this as im with you just that i think people should be allowed to say something like this, it'd be much apreciated if you left a diamond if you think this is a great piece of work. thank you
`Flarez
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07/09/2012 9:55 pm
Level 27 : Expert Dragonborn
Pillowman25
I understand,there can be a good way or a bad way of asking for these kinds of things!
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07/09/2012 10:44 pm
Level 50 : Grandmaster Baconator
Syndi
thank you for understanding have a diamond :)
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07/09/2012 2:36 pm
Level 43 : Master Engineer
DeadSpaceDUde
I agree fully. People look to be noticed by thier work but lets face reality unless you are the 500 pound minecrafter who sits on a bucket and plays minecraft all day like disco. You will never make it that far. Personally I think that the small projects are just as good as the gargantuan. However this is a different arguement. The fact is that many ask for such. Take a new miner, level 5 MozCat. I was looking at some of his work and realized that he stopped altogether. Where he stopped was the WetLands, the wetlands themselves looked amazing seeing how he made it in a super flat land. However he didnt put much in it and the water wasnt deep at all. The whole point is I noticed that MozCat stopped because of the Nether Starter Kit. He made. He asked for a certain amount of diamond and suscribers, once that number was achieved MozCat promised many more Nether Projects. The fact why he didnt get the suscribers or diamond is because the nether starter kit was unimpressive. It was small and didnt have much to it. He made tons of blogs on faction servers then he stopped altogether. MozCat seemed to be completely discouraged at that point. The whole point of the story is that since MozCat didnt get any diamond or likes he quit playing MC!!!! My theory on the whole arguement is that people take getting other people to like thier creations to seriously. Think of those beauty magazines that your gf always reads. Its very similar situation, the front page always gets more attention and no matter what the girl cant look like her. People you cant do what disco does. He is a very dedicated Minecrafter that nobody will ever reach to. The whole rant is that this wouldnt be a problem if people wouldnt take things so seriously.
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07/09/2012 10:18 pm
Level 27 : Expert Dragonborn
Pillowman25
Anyone can become like Disco, you just have to have the time, dedication, patience, brains, and creativity, which lots of people have, but just not as much as him.
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07/09/2012 9:20 pm
Level 27 : Expert Explorer
WaffledudeMC1000
Amen,also you never know you someone could get as big as Disco if they tried hard enough,one day it could happen.
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07/09/2012 7:30 pm
Level 23 : Expert Pokemon
Mylo Xyloto
Diamonds mean nothing, its a just a level and this is just a website, none of this will matter in your life. And why do you need to compare everything to disco? and say he probably weighs 500 pounds? That's rather rude for you to say that. Don't reply with stupid random stories that we could careless about.
Thank you
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07/10/2012 10:15 am
Level 43 : Master Engineer
DeadSpaceDUde
You are right but being the biggest minecrafter in the world also means that Disco probably has no social life.
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07/09/2012 1:43 pm
Level 39 : Artisan Grump
Seska Rotan
I'm sorry, but I don't agree. I am on your side when it comes to the 'threats' thing, but I really don't think there is anything wrong, at all, with people putting a small reminder at the end of a submission saying' If you liked this, a diamond or subscription would be awesome.'. It's really not an issue, especially if the person has put a lot of effort into their work, and they're asking politely.
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07/09/2012 4:42 pm
Level 27 : Expert Dragonborn
Pillowman25
Yeah I know what you mean, this is a VERY arguable topic.
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07/09/2012 11:52 am
Level 17 : Journeyman Architect
copherfield
I have a different opinion, some times people don't remember about giving diamonds or simply don't know what it is, maybe a friendly reminder and say "Hey, if this helped gimme a diamond" would be nice to have around. Obviously spamming and getting rude with it it's not nice, I for example made a little image to remember people about it, I guess it's just fine to use as a "signature"
I used it for example, on a great long post I made here: http://www.planetminecraft.com/blog/the-owner-guide-giving-op-away/
Meh, it's just my oppinion :)
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07/09/2012 8:56 am
Level 36 : Artisan Spelunker
Gawfield305
Your post is VERY agreeable because a lot of people ask for subscribes and diamonds. Also it sometimes makes them look bad too... (no offence to some people)

+ Diamond
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07/09/2012 8:24 am
Level 28 : Expert Archer
Asirund
Yet the picture on the front page says "Diamond and subscribe for more work from me"

Hypocrite?
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07/09/2012 8:27 am
Level 36 : Artisan Nerd
ghostyboy5
The picture was an example mate.
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07/09/2012 8:31 am
Level 28 : Expert Archer
Asirund
Well maybe you could've put a red line across it or something? It seems like this is what any player would use to promote his/her projects
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07/09/2012 8:37 am
Level 36 : Artisan Nerd
ghostyboy5
Hey; don't go raging at me, I didn't post this thing. Just stating what I thought it was.
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07/09/2012 2:22 pm
Level 28 : Expert Archer
Asirund
Wow, I'm dumb. Sorry for accusing you :P
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07/09/2012 5:25 am
Level 56 : Grandmaster Pegasus
DasDuriel
"Awesome! First time I have gotten front page! - 7/8/2012"

and thats the problem sir
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07/09/2012 4:39 pm
Level 27 : Expert Dragonborn
Pillowman25
I view this as more of a personal achievement than a problem.
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07/09/2012 6:23 pm
Level 56 : Grandmaster Pegasus
DasDuriel
>/)<
just think about how the pop reel works
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07/09/2012 11:29 pm
Level 27 : Expert Dragonborn
Pillowman25
Okay sorry I expressed the little bit of happiness I gained from that.
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07/09/2012 5:30 am
Level 26 : Expert Nerd
77pali
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07/09/2012 4:46 am
Level 40 : Master Network
ZaphodX
Well I ask for diamonds and subscribers a lot (shameless).

However I do agree, of course you should never bribe for them to get updates/work quicker etc. Good point about playing Minecraft for fun rather than doing it to get views/diamonds on PMC.
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07/09/2012 4:18 am
Level 1 : New Skinner
mac2001
diamond for u man=D
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07/09/2012 4:15 am
Level 8 : Apprentice Fisherman
Diamonds4u
diamond for you
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07/09/2012 3:32 am
Level 52 : Grandmaster Pirate
CaptKnuckles-FACT
I think were all misunderstanding the main reason of this site, to share our creations and ideas, its not a competition (no need for diamonds or knowing how many subs you have (even though having those things does get you some bragging rights))

+1 ;D

also
In my opinion most people do no require "inspiration" from people on a website like PMC so they will play a game more. you forgot the t in not
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07/09/2012 4:40 pm
Level 27 : Expert Dragonborn
Pillowman25
My mistake on the t in 'not' . It was like 3 in the morning when I wrote this c:
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07/10/2012 2:32 am
Level 52 : Grandmaster Pirate
CaptKnuckles-FACT
lol it happens
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07/09/2012 1:23 am
Level 55 : Grandmaster Pixel Painter
The Sentinels Corp
Well, sometimes it depends if the subscriber doesn't really care and just keep adding diamonds on every post.
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07/09/2012 1:02 am
Level 3 : Apprentice Miner
helicfire777
well, you could consider it an add because it's promoting something
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07/08/2012 11:29 pm
Level 4 : Apprentice Miner
Voussoir
The very same thing goes for stuff like Youtube, or, an odd example, Happy Wheels, if you've ever played that game. "I will make another level if this gets 1000 views and a 5 star rating". I will rate five stars IF ITS FREAKIN' GOOD. It really bothers me when people ask such blatantly stupid requests.
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07/08/2012 11:27 pm
Level 46 : Master Network
linkin1503
to be honest, your work is not the best and I have no interest in it. sorry, but it's the truth. yet this was an honest argument that I can't say no to. you deserve a diamond, and will be expecting to see more work as promised. a potential subscriber has shown interest. keep it up
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07/08/2012 11:26 pm
Level 27 : Expert Herobrine
The_Forougite
and it seems an idiot flagged
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07/08/2012 6:52 pm
Level 31 : Artisan Pony
16charme
Let the wars begin!
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07/08/2012 5:03 pm
Level 26 : Expert Zombie
ZombifiedMinecrafter
I support people who say that, because sometimes people forget to give a diamond, favorite, or sub.

Henry: OOOH! This project looks cool! I better dowload! (downloads and starts exploring it) I better diamond! (an hour of playing later) What was I going to do? (sees subscribe, diamond, and favorite sign) Oh yeah! I was going to diamond, favorite, and subscribe for their hard work and I want to see more of this stuff!

Thus, I support those who say that.
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07/08/2012 3:16 pm
Level 37 : Artisan Lava Rider
ObbyCow77
Agree. Gimee diamonds! Jk
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07/08/2012 3:13 pm
Level 48 : Master Technomancer
Emoticone11
I don't think there's anything wrong with things like "If you liked this, please give me a diamond!", but I hate it when people say that they'll update the project or release another map ONLY if they get enough diamonds. (And most of the time they don't even have the "updated" version ready. :P)
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07/08/2012 3:33 pm
Level 62 : High Grandmaster Architect
Cirquo
I totally agree with you. I appreciate people who say that to remind the viewers to give the diamond, and not leaving without giving it and stil liking the post. That other thing is very stupid
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07/08/2012 3:03 pm
Level 62 : High Grandmaster Architect
Cirquo
I do agree, but some people doesn't think that "I have much diamond and subscribers :D im best", when they SHOULD think after that ""I only have them because I begged"" That's what they should think but they just think they are the best and so on.

But not all are like this, someones say in their description: "Give a diamond and subscribe for more" BECAUSE they want to MAKE SURE that the guys who like your stuff, will not forget to check it out later. I have felt dissapointed when I have seen great stuff and didn't remember to subscriber, maybe because he didn't say "subscribe!" in his submission? Then later I've seen the guy's work and asked myself: Why I didn't subscribe, he posted these weeks ago! :("

Easily: Some ppl tell to give a diamond/subscribe to avoid this ^. But in cases where they only say this to get happy because of their subscriber amounts, those guys are pathetic. But... How do you ever know? That's the problem I think.

EDIT: I wouldn't care if no one notifyes my work or gives a diamond, I just want to share my work, was it bad or good. (in my case good ;))
And I don't think that Planet Minecraft was made to make you freakin famous, it was made to share your Minecraft work. It's just the community if your work get's notifyed or not. Also, screenshots and builds are ONLY up to YOU. You can't blame the community if you didn't get famous, it's up to YOU.

Thank you
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07/08/2012 1:41 pm
Level 29 : Expert Network
Evanchi
It drives me crazy also, when I post a project that I put quite a bit of time into, then when I post it, the go "Hey this is cool, can you check out my Project?" or as if you can go give them diamonds on a project you haven't even seen. People need to grow some hair on their balls and earn their diamond/ Subs the old fashioned way.
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07/08/2012 1:10 pm
Level 20 : Expert Pony
stickdude123
I can totaly agree with that, all i see around is "gimme diamonds or i wont doo dis"
No....it's pretty anoying when someone does that!
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07/08/2012 3:07 pm
Level 62 : High Grandmaster Architect
Cirquo
Yes it is very annoying and I feel always the guy is pathetic. When I feel that the guy actually wants the people who viewed the submission, to see your new work too. Those guys I appreciate.
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07/08/2012 1:05 pm
Level 58 : Grandmaster Demolitionist
Apimil
Every builders want to have subscribers, Not asking it is some kind of hypocrysy when you want to have people that can judge your work and help make it better instead of just guys who find randomly your submission drowned into an ocean of first builds and reposts. Also a lot of the people I subscribed have me in their subscribers because they asked to subscribe. I always forgot to subscribe good builders, and I'm always sad not to find them again on pmc.Asking for subscribe is not this evil, and all this hypocrite and "polliticaly correct " stupid fashion shall fall. Asking for diamonds is not the same thing. For new pmcer without any subscribers it can help being more recognized for his work, as some people would not mind giving a diamond. For big pmcer with tons of subscribers, begging for diamonds is irrationally stupid. Sadly most of pmc don't know why diamonds exist, it's something we give when we find a work wonderful. I saw some projects, not really bad but not wonderfull with 100++ diamonds and a lot of people comenting"omfg this is awesome" whereas they did'nt even downloaded it... and it made me sick for the peoples who made awesome builds but remain drown into the mass because they hadn't enough diamonds and subscribers. I have the chance of not being ignored by the comunity when I post submissions, but I had to ask for diamonds and subscibe in the beginning; now that I have an aceptable amount of subsribers you'll never see me asking for diamonds..
For me the new diamond is favorite, cuz very few people actually favorite everything like lemmings, and you have to think before you clik... But now people also ask for favorite. We are so fucked
(please don't mind my english)
Long story short, I think new pmc er asking for subs and diamonds are acceptable, maybe a good thing, but olds-well-known pmc'er who beg for diamonds are idiots.
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07/08/2012 3:09 pm
Level 62 : High Grandmaster Architect
Cirquo
"made me sick for the peoples who made awesome builds but remain drown
into the mass because they hadn't enough diamonds and subscribers." The screenshots and title and the whole outfit is just up to them, it's not the community's fault if they guy's build is epic but title has typos and lowercase and bad screenshots. His own fault.
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07/08/2012 3:21 pm
Level 58 : Grandmaster Demolitionist
Apimil
So a build quality is only judged from screenshots and title ? that explain a lot why so many projects a basically the same, and why peoples who take screenshots with 256X texture pack of dumb stuff get diamoned. PMC is no longer a share platform, PMC is now like FOX tv.
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07/08/2012 3:32 pm
Level 62 : High Grandmaster Architect
Cirquo
Hmm... I don't really know should I say that I don't mean that or I mean that. But yes, it's a shame that good builds get drown to the mas but they COULD get noticed with better outfit. And it's a shame too that someones build some crap and maybe even unoriginal and they just edit screenshots and so on, and BAM they're popular. It's only because he edited the screenshots to make ppl to notice it and then to the description: Give me a diamond!
That's how bad builds are famous.
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